Dual Casting
I can't help but think that this card can be broken, especially with a way to untap the creature. So I went through gatherer, looking for creatures that untap themselves somehow. I think I missed some, but I found two.
I think Midnight Guard is the better of the two. And as soon as I read the card, I immediately thought of Thatcher Revolt. I guess in magical christmas land, you can swing for 6 on turn 4.
Perhaps Dual Casting would be better in some sort or UR deck? What are your guys thoughts on it?
Very awesome! He is strictly better than Midnight Guard for Dual Casting simply because he is blue, and has the fringe benefit of tapping down titans.
I already want to preorder foils of this card and Dual Casting. Besides Revolt, are there any instants/sorcerys that are good choices for copying in U/R? Ponder, Mana Leak, Think Twice, all seem good for digging and light protecting. Two-of Noxious Revival to bring back used cards. Other creatures may be stuff like Snapcaster Mage and possibly Delver of Secrets? Spellskite also seems good for protecting from Doom Blade, Naturalize, and Timely Reinforcements.
Can you copy a spell that's already on the stack? or only when it's "cast"? I know you can counter spells already on the stack... but seems to me you shouldn't be able to copy them anymore.
Can you copy a spell that's already on the stack? or only when it's "cast"? I know you can counter spells already on the stack... but seems to me you shouldn't be able to copy them anymore.
the ONLY time you can copy a spell is while it's on the stack.
You have to copy the spell before it resolves. But as far as I can tell, there isn't anything preventing you from copying it again before it resolves after you already done so once, or copying a copy.
As long as your copy actions are done "in response," following proper priority you can copy as many times as you have mana/creatures to flicker.
If the intent is to flicker, Venser may be quite useful here. Gather the townsfolk + champion + copies of gather the townsfolk, is good fun
Especially if you copy a creature that generates humans. Not sure there is a way, but i'll take a look.
Well, of course they do. The upside to the Captain is that he dodges a lot of the 1cmc removal(except Snag). Spellskite will probably be what protects him later, or perhaps Delver of Secrets as a Doom Blade-rod. Of course we can make a transformative sideboard.
The main real downside to this deck is any decks running Go for the Throats, Slagstorms, or Snag. I think the worse of the three is Vapor Snag, simply because the deck won't have a mana-efficient way of dealing with it beyond Mental Misstep.
Also, Temporal Mastery might be a neat 2-of, for living the dream of an extra time walk for R. Thunderous Wrath is also something to consider. Ten damage for RR is nothing to sneeze at.
As long as your copy actions are done "in response," following proper priority you can copy as many times as you have mana/creatures to flicker.
If the intent is to flicker, Venser may be quite useful here. Gather the townsfolk + champion + copies of gather the townsfolk, is good fun
Especially if you copy a creature that generates humans. Not sure there is a way, but i'll take a look.
You don't really need to flicker, considering the Thatcher Revolt will trigger the Captain for each 1/1 Human. You just simply need to succeed it the first time, then each time after for each trigger of the Captain.
A nifty trick is the venser + priest of urabrask blink. priest will generate 3 mana to pay for the red spell that makes 3 red 1/1 humans with haste. can copy it with captain + dual casting 3 times (mana saved with priest)
Only issue is the vulnerability to bounce.
Hex proof equipment or pro-blue via body and mind is my only suggestion. probably body and mind, as the hexproof equipment is not as threatening.
Upon consideration, making it 3 colors weakens the concept too much, U/R is already rough mana wise.
It might be worth it for the mana savings to work in a copy or two of the enchantment that makes instants and sorceries 2 colorless mana less to cast. a morbid Brimstone Volley copied might as well be a game ender for RR + creature tap.
For that matter proliferate spells + relevant planeswalkers might also be good. a R + creature tap for double proliferate + 2 cards/3 damage?
Until Vapor Snag goes away, I don't think this is going to have an impact. I mean, we already have a similarly costed spell (Reverberate) that nobody plays right now, so I don't know why that effect on an aura seems good. I mean yeah its cute that you can keep using it, but anything that you attatch this enchantement to is going to become instantly hated on.
I mean I guess you could try it in UR Delver, and strap it onto an Invisible Stalker, but then you run into consistency issues with Delver, blahblahblah. Although something is mildly appealing about being able to cast double Ponders and Mutagenics.
When people started talking about U/R Delver I was thinking you might use this as a one-of, on an Invisible Stalker most of the time. Extra ponder, or thunderous wrath, whatever.
Not sure about the viability of the U/R Delver part, that's just probably where I'd test it.
I could see it working with the shield mate, but over the course of how many draws and turns to get this? Out of the higher rated decks, what are we going to be copying that people will still play after this sticks?
I don't think it's terrible, but getting beat down in the process isn't going to be fun.
Shieldmates - Hexproof
Alchemist - Additional untap option
Mentor - For a mill strategy
Doomsayer - Untappable Human generator
Mauler - Haste is always good
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Those cards are what I think that can carry this enchantment. If you can't play this card against Vapor Snag or Gutshot don't bother putting it in your 75.
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I can't help but think that this card can be broken, especially with a way to untap the creature. So I went through gatherer, looking for creatures that untap themselves somehow. I think I missed some, but I found two.
I think Midnight Guard is the better of the two. And as soon as I read the card, I immediately thought of Thatcher Revolt. I guess in magical christmas land, you can swing for 6 on turn 4.
Perhaps Dual Casting would be better in some sort or UR deck? What are your guys thoughts on it?
Cool interaction with Gather the Townsfolk or Increasing Devotion. It makes it into pay the cost of the spell, then copy it any number of times for 1RU.
Very awesome! He is strictly better than Midnight Guard for Dual Casting simply because he is blue, and has the fringe benefit of tapping down titans.
I already want to preorder foils of this card and Dual Casting. Besides Revolt, are there any instants/sorcerys that are good choices for copying in U/R? Ponder, Mana Leak, Think Twice, all seem good for digging and light protecting. Two-of Noxious Revival to bring back used cards. Other creatures may be stuff like Snapcaster Mage and possibly Delver of Secrets? Spellskite also seems good for protecting from Doom Blade, Naturalize, and Timely Reinforcements.
the ONLY time you can copy a spell is while it's on the stack.
If the intent is to flicker, Venser may be quite useful here. Gather the townsfolk + champion + copies of gather the townsfolk, is good fun
Especially if you copy a creature that generates humans. Not sure there is a way, but i'll take a look.
Well, of course they do. The upside to the Captain is that he dodges a lot of the 1cmc removal(except Snag). Spellskite will probably be what protects him later, or perhaps Delver of Secrets as a Doom Blade-rod. Of course we can make a transformative sideboard.
The main real downside to this deck is any decks running Go for the Throats, Slagstorms, or Snag. I think the worse of the three is Vapor Snag, simply because the deck won't have a mana-efficient way of dealing with it beyond Mental Misstep.
Also, Temporal Mastery might be a neat 2-of, for living the dream of an extra time walk for R. Thunderous Wrath is also something to consider. Ten damage for RR is nothing to sneeze at.
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You don't really need to flicker, considering the Thatcher Revolt will trigger the Captain for each 1/1 Human. You just simply need to succeed it the first time, then each time after for each trigger of the Captain.
Only issue is the vulnerability to bounce.
Hex proof equipment or pro-blue via body and mind is my only suggestion. probably body and mind, as the hexproof equipment is not as threatening.
Upon consideration, making it 3 colors weakens the concept too much, U/R is already rough mana wise.
It might be worth it for the mana savings to work in a copy or two of the enchantment that makes instants and sorceries 2 colorless mana less to cast. a morbid Brimstone Volley copied might as well be a game ender for RR + creature tap.
For that matter proliferate spells + relevant planeswalkers might also be good. a R + creature tap for double proliferate + 2 cards/3 damage?
I mean I guess you could try it in UR Delver, and strap it onto an Invisible Stalker, but then you run into consistency issues with Delver, blahblahblah. Although something is mildly appealing about being able to cast double Ponders and Mutagenics.
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She, and her partner are hexproof.
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Not sure about the viability of the U/R Delver part, that's just probably where I'd test it.
I don't think it's terrible, but getting beat down in the process isn't going to be fun.
4 Dual Casting
4 Captain of the Mists
4 Gather the Townsfolk
4 Thatcher Revolt
4 Increasing Devotion
4 Thraben Doomsayer
4 Elguad Shieldmate
4 Galvanic Alchemist
4 Stern Mentor
4 Lightning Mauler
Shieldmates - Hexproof
Alchemist - Additional untap option
Mentor - For a mill strategy
Doomsayer - Untappable Human generator
Mauler - Haste is always good
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Those cards are what I think that can carry this enchantment. If you can't play this card against Vapor Snag or Gutshot don't bother putting it in your 75.
That said, I could see a cool deck emerging, running similar to Pyromancer Ascension.