BUG Goodstuff Control, hopefully we can build and share ideas, results and such. I'll try to get this together relatively quickly and test it/play at FNM. Now, it's either play Birds of Paradise or Snapcaster Mage. I really wanted to fit him in here but it wasn't able to happen.
I've been working on a build that is in a very early dev process but I'll throw some critiques at you concerning your list.
Your list looks more mid-range than control with Birds and Primeval Titan. In my opinion you should be runing Grave Titan caz he's a solid finisher! Everyone and their mom is running Doom Blade so why not try to take advantage of that?
I def think those Ponder's should be Think Twice and the Revival can go for more room in the deck Also, THIS DECK NEEDS SNAPCASTER MAGE!!!
Seriously, with cards like Mana Leak, Despise, and Doom Blade in the deck there is no reason not to play him and get more value out of them.
Before I post the decklist I'm workin on I'd like to mention that you might have overlooked Beast Within. In this deck, Despise, Beast Within, and Mana Leak should offer a very solid base of control and disruption. What Despise can't get Mana Leak should take care of and what might sneak through these defenses Beast Within will clean up.
This has something of a 20-5 Record.
Losses are luck..bad draw type situations, mana screwed etc or needed to side to keep win going.
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I dont understand the primal hunters in a 3 color deck, I feel Relentless would make for a way easier splash of green in the deck. Not to mention that if you can transform relentless, he tutors up a snapcaster mage. I know that seems elementary, but BUG has some seriously powerful instants and sorcerys to be flash backed.
How do you guys feel about bramblecrush? 4 Mana sorcery seems a little hefty considering we have access to Naturalize out of the board. I know it hits lands and planeswalkers, but it still seems slow to me.
I've been trying to make BUG work myself, and I dont know how you guys are getting by with the manabases that you are using. Im just splashing green for beast within and garruk, and I find to consistently curve a mana leak, into a lilliana into a garruk... I have to run 27 lands with no colourless producers.
With 27 lands MD I feel like I should be running more 6 drops, perhaps a 3rd consecrated sphinx in place of the 4th snapcaster could be reasonable, but as I said I love the way he works with Garruk Veil Cursed. Sac a snappy, get a snappy, sac a snappy, get a snappy. Feels like cheating.
I'm also not a huge fan of beast within, I dont really want to have to deal with the 3/3 as Garruk Relentless only spits out 2/2's. Any suggestions there? I dont really want to drop the beast within, as it seems so good on paper.
Garruk, Primal Hunter is SO good at creating board presence, drawing you cards, and using his ultimate will win games. I wouldn't suggest going over 2 but I don't see the GGG being so hard to produce since we do have two sets of duals available to us. I play Beast Within so Primal Hunter makes the 3/3's easier to deal wit and Thrun just laughs them off.
I didn't see anyone playing Despise and I'd like to ask why? Who doesn't want to open the game with Turn 1 Despise, Turn 2 Mana Leak, Turn 3 Snapcaster/ Despise against WolfRun and Tokens??
I updated the decklist to feature 2 swords and a couple Batterskull's.
4x Snapcaster Mage
3x Primeval Titan
3x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Phyrexian Metamorph
1x Consecrated Sphinx
1x Wurmcoil Engine
Spells - 22
4x Ponder
4x Mana Leak
3x Despise
2x Doom Blade
2x Dismember
2x Forbidden Alchemy
2x Garruk, Primal Hunter
1x Go for the Throat
1x Karn Liberated
1x Noxious Revival
4x Forest
3x Island
2x Swamp
4x Ghost Quarter
4x Darkslick Shores
4x Hinterland Harbor
3x Woodland Cemetery
1x Drowned Catacomb
3x Nihil Spellbomb
3x Mental Misstep
2x Steel Sabotage
2x Go for the Throat
2x Surgical Extraction
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
1x Doom Blade
1x Noxious Revival
BUG Goodstuff Control, hopefully we can build and share ideas, results and such. I'll try to get this together relatively quickly and test it/play at FNM. Now, it's either play Birds of Paradise or Snapcaster Mage. I really wanted to fit him in here but it wasn't able to happen.
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Your list looks more mid-range than control with Birds and Primeval Titan. In my opinion you should be runing Grave Titan caz he's a solid finisher! Everyone and their mom is running Doom Blade so why not try to take advantage of that?
I def think those Ponder's should be Think Twice and the Revival can go for more room in the deck Also, THIS DECK NEEDS SNAPCASTER MAGE!!!
Seriously, with cards like Mana Leak, Despise, and Doom Blade in the deck there is no reason not to play him and get more value out of them.
Before I post the decklist I'm workin on I'd like to mention that you might have overlooked Beast Within. In this deck, Despise, Beast Within, and Mana Leak should offer a very solid base of control and disruption. What Despise can't get Mana Leak should take care of and what might sneak through these defenses Beast Within will clean up.
3 Thrun, the Last Troll
2 Batterskull
2 Sword of Feast and Famine
2 Garruk, Primal Hunter
3 Despise
4 Mana Leak
2 Dissipate
4 Think Twice
3 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Beast Within
3 Doom Blade
4 Drowned Catacomb
4 HInterland Harbor
4 Island
4 Forest
4 Swamp
1 Naphalia Drownyard
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4 Hinterland Harbor
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
6 Forest
3 Woodland Cemetry
1 Swamp
1 Island
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3 Phantasmal Image
2 Frost Titan
2 Grave Titan
2 Wurmcoil Engine
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Snapcaster Mage
4 Think Twice
4 Mana Leak
2 Cancel
2 Dismember
2 Dissipate
3 Mimic Vat
3 Bramblebrush
3 Black Sun's Zenith
2 Thrun, The Last Troll
3 Nihil Spellbomb
3 Tree of Redemption
2 Negate
2 Naturalize
This has something of a 20-5 Record.
Losses are luck..bad draw type situations, mana screwed etc or needed to side to keep win going.
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How do you guys feel about bramblecrush? 4 Mana sorcery seems a little hefty considering we have access to Naturalize out of the board. I know it hits lands and planeswalkers, but it still seems slow to me.
I've been trying to make BUG work myself, and I dont know how you guys are getting by with the manabases that you are using. Im just splashing green for beast within and garruk, and I find to consistently curve a mana leak, into a lilliana into a garruk... I have to run 27 lands with no colourless producers.
Heres what I have been working on
2 Consecrated Sphinx
2 Wurmcoil Engine
4 Garruk Relentless
2 Liliana
3 Think Twice
3 Forbidden Alchemy
2 Dissipate
3 Doom Blade
2 Wring Flesh
2 Beast Within
4 Darkslick Shores
3 Drown Catacomb
4 Hinterland Harbour
4 Woodland Cemetary
4 Swamp
2 Forest
With 27 lands MD I feel like I should be running more 6 drops, perhaps a 3rd consecrated sphinx in place of the 4th snapcaster could be reasonable, but as I said I love the way he works with Garruk Veil Cursed. Sac a snappy, get a snappy, sac a snappy, get a snappy. Feels like cheating.
I'm also not a huge fan of beast within, I dont really want to have to deal with the 3/3 as Garruk Relentless only spits out 2/2's. Any suggestions there? I dont really want to drop the beast within, as it seems so good on paper.
I didn't see anyone playing Despise and I'd like to ask why? Who doesn't want to open the game with Turn 1 Despise, Turn 2 Mana Leak, Turn 3 Snapcaster/ Despise against WolfRun and Tokens??
I updated the decklist to feature 2 swords and a couple Batterskull's.
Thanks to Dantcg for the Sig!