I appreciate your stab at satire, but this deck costs significantly less money than every other control deck, so it definitely can and will lose.
At least play the full set of Jaces to get 100% of your free wins as opposed to merely 75%.
Cut all the crappy commons, uncommons, and rares, and replace them with Mythics. You might run out of lands to add, but there are some expensive promotional lands you can use, like GURU or Summer Islands.
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Jace is good, but you won't auto-win because you have Jace. Unfortunately, though, Doughnought is kinda right. Drop the Gomazoa for 3 Frost Titans and another Preordain. Drop Wall of Frost for maybe a different beater or Sea Gate Oracle/more Ingenuity/everflowing Chalice.
But for a mono-blue deck it doesnt look too bad. A decent sideboard could help a lot.
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A friend of mine told me to stop by and say hello. Her name is Vampire Hexmage, I don't know if you two have met? Also, I hear about this card released in M11- I forget what it's called, but it costs 1UU, and the reads "Destroy target Jace". I don't know how prevalent it is in your meta, but it could become an issue.
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El Presidente is like, I'm at 2 life. I take that goddamn shockland like a man!
now this is when you know a card is ban worthy. when people start thinking its an auto win card lol. but seriously i like the idea but i would rather run UW or UB for control. its a good thought but check out what kind of control has been top 8-ing for some ideas on where to go from there. what matchs hurt like hell and which were a breeze and alter to accomadate accordingly.
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A friend of mine told me to stop by and say hello. Her name is Vampire Hexmage, I don't know if you two have met? Also, I hear about this card released in M11- I forget what it's called, but it costs 1UU, and the reads "Destroy target Jace". I don't know how prevalent it is in your meta, but it could become an issue.
Well i believe the card your talking about was actually released in llorwyn and actually reads when this card enters the battlefield sacrifice it and each opponent sacrifices his or her jace
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I appreciate your stab at satire, but this deck costs significantly less money than every other control deck, so it definitely can and will lose.
At least play the full set of Jaces to get 100% of your free wins as opposed to merely 75%.
Cut all the crappy commons, uncommons, and rares, and replace them with Mythics. You might run out of lands to add, but there are some expensive promotional lands you can use, like GURU or Summer Islands.
See you at the Yacht Club tournament, and good luck.
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I play a Mox Opal and 2 memnites. I tap the mox for white, and play a Glint Hawk, bouncing the mox. I play it again, tapping for red and playing Kuldotha Rebirth, sacrificing the opal. Play a second opal and a mountain, tap for 2 red, drop Goblin Bushwacker kicked. Swing all.
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El Presidente is like, I'm at 2 life. I take that goddamn shockland like a man!
I play a Mox Opal and 2 memnites. I tap the mox for white, and play a Glint Hawk, bouncing the mox. I play it again, tapping for red and playing Kuldotha Rebirth, sacrificing the opal. Play a second opal and a mountain, tap for 2 red, drop Goblin Bushwacker kicked. Swing all.
Me: 20
You: 5
So, what you're getting at is, he needs to put another Mind Sculptor in, right?
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So, what you're getting at is, he needs to put another Mind Sculptor in, right?
Well, if we're starting a fundraiser for the "Devonnn needs a 4th Jace fund", There will be a 4th Jace in this deck. I like the idea of 24 counters or whatever, seems like a good idea.
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This deck really can't lose. Hexmage gets countered. Everything they try and do gets countered. Gomazoa kicks ass. Blocks everything.
Yeah my favorite part is when you are tapped out after casting jace and you apparently still get to counter stuff a la Jon Finkel: tapping two (in this case, already tapped) islands and saying "no".
In a more serious note, the "jace wins" deck already exists: it's called UB control. Do not let the Grave Titans fool you, the win condition is Jace.
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
I played U/B Control, and I loved countering and Jacing people to win, so why not make a deck around that. I was thinking a U-Mindslaver Lock. Any ideas?
If you don't want to lose, then might I suggest running DoJ as a 4of, at the very least. You have no way of dealing with On-Board creatures aside for Into the roil, which isn't bad considering the counte suite in the deck. I love the 10+ counters, it holds up, but not without DoJ. Don't play Mindslaver in a control deck. You don't need to control their entire turn, just their spells.
Unfortunately any mono-color deck is just too "plain" to be able to hold it's own. B or W is honestly the key part to the deck that you're missing. Just tuck that obsession for Jace away and acknowledge the true factor in this meta...YOU NEED A SECOND COLOR!!! This isn't red; there are almost no, beneficial, ways to handle creatures. Think about it...Ratchet Bomb won't get you there.
So you think a splash of white for DoJ and Celestial Collonade would do? Also if I was splashing white I think I'd want to add Gideon Jura for more protection for Jace
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Definitely. Add more Jace. Add more Jura. Also, go ahead and splash Black for Creeping Tar Pit and White for Celestial Collonade. This is brilliant!
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At least play the full set of Jaces to get 100% of your free wins as opposed to merely 75%.
Cut all the crappy commons, uncommons, and rares, and replace them with Mythics. You might run out of lands to add, but there are some expensive promotional lands you can use, like GURU or Summer Islands.
See you at the Yacht Club tournament, and good luck.
Edit: Oh, hey, Modern is a format.
Jace is good, but you won't auto-win because you have Jace. Unfortunately, though, Doughnought is kinda right. Drop the Gomazoa for 3 Frost Titans and another Preordain. Drop Wall of Frost for maybe a different beater or Sea Gate Oracle/more Ingenuity/everflowing Chalice.
But for a mono-blue deck it doesnt look too bad. A decent sideboard could help a lot.
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Well i believe the card your talking about was actually released in llorwyn and actually reads when this card enters the battlefield sacrifice it and each opponent sacrifices his or her jace
LOLOLOL, Can you post a larger image of your Old Style Jace 2.0 Avatar? I'd really like to read it.
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I play a Mox Opal and 2 memnites. I tap the mox for white, and play a Glint Hawk, bouncing the mox. I play it again, tapping for red and playing Kuldotha Rebirth, sacrificing the opal. Play a second opal and a mountain, tap for 2 red, drop Goblin Bushwacker kicked. Swing all.
Me: 20
You: 5
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So, what you're getting at is, he needs to put another Mind Sculptor in, right?
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Well, if we're starting a fundraiser for the "Devonnn needs a 4th Jace fund", There will be a 4th Jace in this deck. I like the idea of 24 counters or whatever, seems like a good idea.
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Yeah my favorite part is when you are tapped out after casting jace and you apparently still get to counter stuff a la Jon Finkel: tapping two (in this case, already tapped) islands and saying "no".
In a more serious note, the "jace wins" deck already exists: it's called UB control. Do not let the Grave Titans fool you, the win condition is Jace.
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3x Jace, The Mind Sculptor
Sorcery/Instant (20)
3x Stoic Rebuttal
4x Mana Leak
2x Negate
4x Preordain
1x Mindbreak Trap
3x Into the Roil
3x Jace's Ingenuity
4x Spreading Seas
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2x Ratchet Bomb
2x Prototype Portal
2x Mindslaver
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4x Tectonic Edge
4x Halimar Depths
1x Mystifying Maze
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2x Cancel
2x Spell Pierce
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If you don't want to lose, then might I suggest running DoJ as a 4of, at the very least. You have no way of dealing with On-Board creatures aside for Into the roil, which isn't bad considering the counte suite in the deck. I love the 10+ counters, it holds up, but not without DoJ. Don't play Mindslaver in a control deck. You don't need to control their entire turn, just their spells.
Unfortunately any mono-color deck is just too "plain" to be able to hold it's own. B or W is honestly the key part to the deck that you're missing. Just tuck that obsession for Jace away and acknowledge the true factor in this meta...YOU NEED A SECOND COLOR!!! This isn't red; there are almost no, beneficial, ways to handle creatures. Think about it...Ratchet Bomb won't get you there.
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So you're saying go Esper control just for manlands, Doj, and doom blade (I'm assuming)? And Gideon?
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