Every FNM I play in I get stomped by Valakut. Thats the only deck that rocks me. I have Tec Edges in but they're not that consistent. Being that he can primeval and get one easy. I'm going to be running a BW Control next week and I'd just like some ideas on dealing with it.
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I can't think of anything outside of Tectonic Edge that would work in those colors. If it's really bad you could always put Safe Passage into your sideboard.
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Leyline with Tec edges are going to work the best for you. If you land a leyline, your biggest worry at that point is making sure that you've got enough removal to handle the fatties. Memoricide should always name Primeval first and then either Wurmcoil or Avenger second(I usually go Avenger first between these 2. It tends to end the game within 1 turn of appearing if it's not answered.).
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Leyline doesn't really work, since they can still burn our your creatures and hit you with their army of Titans/Avengers/Plant tokens.
The easiest way to beat Valakut is to keep them off of green mana, or hope they draw all ramp and no business cards.
If you read, you'll notice that the op is in BW. It's kinda hard to keep them off green mana when the only realistically playable card in those colors that can is contaminated ground.
I feel like memoricide is a good option, but it is a little slow. Sacrament is good as well, but BBB is a little hard to hit a lot of the time, even in a two color deck. Leyline is worth considering, but again, the drawback is the 4 mana to drop it. If you get it in your opening hand then you are in pretty good shape, but that is a small chance and not something I would attempt to rely on.
Tough to say really, everything could be helpful, but everything also has its drawbacks.
If you're playing BW play Memoricide for Primevals and play Sad Sacrement for the lands. I would personally play Memoricide in the side/main because of the Pyromancer Ascension that's around here.
as a titan player the deck that stomps me the most is ub control, since i run 14 creatures, every creature counts, the other thing is that they play mimic vat with doomblade which is usually a game ender for me.
Yeah. Work on your mana base so you can reliably hit BBB turn 3-4. Hard, I know, but that's what you get for being in allied colors. Sadistic Sacrement + Memoricide rapes them. Say goodbye to all your threats! Plus Tec edge is a must.
I really can't imagine what your getting from white. There are very few cards in white that compliment black or fill in what's missing for black aside from DoJ, and black has a few good ways to deal with lots of creatures anyway.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Leonin Arbiter. That card got so much hype when it came out, but nobody is running it. (I play white and don't even own any!)
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Leonin Arbiter. That card got so much hype when it came out, but nobody is running it. (I play white and don't even own any!)
Has play testing proven this card sucks?
It sucks when Valakut runs 6-8 burn spells.
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The problem i see is that he is gioing to want to search libs too. Marsh flats, memoricide, sadistic sacrament and stuff i can think of off the top of my head.
+ he can be burned without valakut losing much tempo.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Leonin Arbiter. That card got so much hype when it came out, but nobody is running it. (I play white and don't even own any!)
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It is good if you are playing lots of creatures since it will help you race. It is very good against Valakut cause you are using up their burn resources instead of targetting other creatures, and in either case you are slowing down their ramp. But if you can't turn it into a clock it isn't doing much for you. I prefer it to spreading seas in creature builds, but a control build might have better options. A control build without U probably has the hardest.. You need to attack their resources in their hand and library with B to win, cause you won't be able to nullify the advantage they get from playing their threats. Memoricide/Sadistic Sacrament, probably Duress.
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If you read, you'll notice that the op is in BW. It's kinda hard to keep them off green mana when the only realistically playable card in those colors that can is contaminated ground.
Actually, he said he was playing BW next week. He gave no indication about what he was playing going forward.
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- Destroy the lands, run 4 Tec Edge, Spreading Seas, Contaminated Ground
- Leyline of Sanctity
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The easiest way to beat Valakut is to keep them off of green mana, or hope they draw all ramp and no business cards.
If you read, you'll notice that the op is in BW. It's kinda hard to keep them off green mana when the only realistically playable card in those colors that can is contaminated ground.
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Tough to say really, everything could be helpful, but everything also has its drawbacks.
You could also run Grim Discovery in conjunction with edge if it seems good with the rest of your list.
Really, Titan decks shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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Lux cannon can explode the valakuts.
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I really can't imagine what your getting from white. There are very few cards in white that compliment black or fill in what's missing for black aside from DoJ, and black has a few good ways to deal with lots of creatures anyway.
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It sucks when Valakut runs 6-8 burn spells.
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The problem i see is that he is gioing to want to search libs too. Marsh flats, memoricide, sadistic sacrament and stuff i can think of off the top of my head.
+ he can be burned without valakut losing much tempo.
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It is good if you are playing lots of creatures since it will help you race. It is very good against Valakut cause you are using up their burn resources instead of targetting other creatures, and in either case you are slowing down their ramp. But if you can't turn it into a clock it isn't doing much for you. I prefer it to spreading seas in creature builds, but a control build might have better options. A control build without U probably has the hardest.. You need to attack their resources in their hand and library with B to win, cause you won't be able to nullify the advantage they get from playing their threats. Memoricide/Sadistic Sacrament, probably Duress.
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Actually, he said he was playing BW next week. He gave no indication about what he was playing going forward.