Hey, big fan of Vivien's Arkbow here, nice to meet you. The first thing that I noticed is that you're playing Absorb and Quench when you really shouldn't. If you're trying to build a deck around Arkbow, you need to play the least amount of noncreature spell possible: the more creatures you run the more effective the Arkbow becomes. If you're running any noncreature spell you need a really good reason to do so, and 6 copies of mixed counterspells just don't make much sense. A good noncreature spell that I run in my Prime Speaker Vannifar and that is good in any creature based toolbox strategy is Incubation // Incongruity which can double as removal spell. Run 4 of them instead.
Speaking of Vannifar, she and the Arkbow complement each other very well. I would run 3 copies of her alongside the Arkbow.
4 copies of Fblthp, the Lost are too much. He's very cute but doesn't really do much once he's on the battlefield. You don't need him in multiple copies since he can be reshuffled and you're trying to put him in play from the library, more than from the hand. I'd play 1 or 2 copies.
Lastly, this deck doesn't look like a Hydroid Krasis deck. He's just useless when revealed by the Arkbow so I wouldn't play 4 copies of him. Personally I don't run any (also because I don't have one eheh), instead I run 4 copies of Elite Guardmage which basically does the same thing and work way better with both the Arkbow and Vannifar.
My Bant Arkbow list would look something like this:
Im running Arkbow too but in Temur colors only though, if you are interested here is the Decklist. I also post some strats/mini-primer on the Deck Creation thread.
You have to run 4x copies of hydroid krassis if you are running GU, IMO. It fuels all the things you wanna do, hedges life and is a super threat.
Unless you aren't playing him due to cost, you are making a mistake i feel.
Sadly, I was mistaken. It was just Vivien in the deck, not the arkbow and no Hero either....I had it confused with another bant deck I saw on coverage. But here's a link to the list that placed in the top 8 for reference
You have to run 4x copies of hydroid krassis if you are running GU, IMO. It fuels all the things you wanna do, hedges life and is a super threat.
Unless you aren't playing him due to cost, you are making a mistake i feel.
Strongly disagree. As I mentioned before I believe running Krasis in an Arkbow deck is wrong. Sure, there will be times where Krasis will win the game on its own without having to rely on the Bow, but if we're trying to build around said Bow, we don't need Krasis. While at first glance the card draw from the Krasis seems great for fueling the Bow, I believe it's unnecessary as both cards play a very simlar role: they're both great mana sinks and help in sustaining the "flow" of our threats. But they do so in a very different way and that's why I believe they not only play very poorly together, but need a different build-around approach. For example, the list quoted here:
Sadly, I was mistaken. It was just Vivien in the deck, not the arkbow and no Hero either....I had it confused with another bant deck I saw on coverage. But here's a link to the list that placed in the top 8 for reference
This I think it's the perfect Krasis deck, with Vivien, Champion of the Wilds in place of Arkbow. Having the option to leave open mana for either a Frilled Mystic or Krasis at EOT is insanely powerful, whereas having to choose between sinking all our mana in a main phase Krasis and leaving mana open for an instant speed Arbow activation is just awkward.
Speaking of Frilled Mystic, I'm going to (sadly) cut 3 copies of Prime Speaker Vannifar from my list and going all-in on the Bow, also adding God-Eternal Oketra. In my quick testing, I felt like Vannifar was just another piece to protect, really taking its toll on my card choices. Mystic gives the list more elasticity to opposing threats, something that Deputy of Detention cannot do by himself, while Oketra is just a huge, hard to deal with threat that turns our late game Elves and Druids into more power on board. Also, she can be replayed immediately after being tucked thanks to the Bow, which is nuts.
4 Hydroid Krasis
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Deputy of Detention
4 Fblthp, the Lost
4 Jadelight Ranger
4 Knight of Autumn
1 Shalai, Voice of Plenty
2 Frilled Mystic
2 Glacial Fortress
2 Sunpetal Grove
2 Forest
2 Island
2 Plains
2 Hinterland Harbor
4 Temple Garden
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Breeding Pool
3 Vivien's Arkbow
Instant
3 Absorb
3 Quench
Looking for suggestions
Speaking of Vannifar, she and the Arkbow complement each other very well. I would run 3 copies of her alongside the Arkbow.
4 copies of Fblthp, the Lost are too much. He's very cute but doesn't really do much once he's on the battlefield. You don't need him in multiple copies since he can be reshuffled and you're trying to put him in play from the library, more than from the hand. I'd play 1 or 2 copies.
Lastly, this deck doesn't look like a Hydroid Krasis deck. He's just useless when revealed by the Arkbow so I wouldn't play 4 copies of him. Personally I don't run any (also because I don't have one eheh), instead I run 4 copies of Elite Guardmage which basically does the same thing and work way better with both the Arkbow and Vannifar.
My Bant Arkbow list would look something like this:
4x Llanowar Elves
4x Paradise Druid
2x Incubation Druid
1x Fblthp, the Lost
4x District Guide
3x Deputy of Detention
3x Prime Speaker Vannifar
3x Elite Guardmage
1x Shalai, Voice of Plenty
1x Riverwise Augur
1x Biogenic Ooze
1x Trostani Discordant
4x Vivien's Arkbow
Instants and Sorceries:
4x Incubation // Incongruity
24 Lands
I hope you got something useful from this post and I wish you a safe and happy brewing!
1 Island
1 Mountain
3 Forest
3 Hinterland Harbor
3 Steam Vents
3 Sulfur Falls
4 Stomping Ground
3 Rootbound Crag
4 Breeding Pool
Main 10
4 Vivien's Arkbow
4 Ilharg, the Raze-Boar
2 Rhythm of the Wild
Ramp 14
4 Llanowar Elves
2 Arboreal Grazer
4 Growth Spiral
2 Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner
2 Gift of Paradise
1 End-Raze Forerunners
1 God-Eternal Rhonas
1 Mesmerizing Benthid
1 God-Eternal Bontu
1 Torgaar, Famine Incarnate
1 Demanding Dragon
1 Siege-Gang Commander
1 Meteor Golem
1 Angrath's Marauders
1 Carnage Tyrant
1 Ravager Wurm
3 Carnage Tyrant
2 Pelakka Wurm
2 Rhythm of the Wild
4 Fiery Cannonade
1 Huatli, the Sun's Heart
1 Burning Sun's Avatar
1 Lyra Dawnbringer
1 Izoni, Thousand-Eyed
Unless you aren't playing him due to cost, you are making a mistake i feel.
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Strongly disagree. As I mentioned before I believe running Krasis in an Arkbow deck is wrong. Sure, there will be times where Krasis will win the game on its own without having to rely on the Bow, but if we're trying to build around said Bow, we don't need Krasis. While at first glance the card draw from the Krasis seems great for fueling the Bow, I believe it's unnecessary as both cards play a very simlar role: they're both great mana sinks and help in sustaining the "flow" of our threats. But they do so in a very different way and that's why I believe they not only play very poorly together, but need a different build-around approach. For example, the list quoted here:
This I think it's the perfect Krasis deck, with Vivien, Champion of the Wilds in place of Arkbow. Having the option to leave open mana for either a Frilled Mystic or Krasis at EOT is insanely powerful, whereas having to choose between sinking all our mana in a main phase Krasis and leaving mana open for an instant speed Arbow activation is just awkward.
Speaking of Frilled Mystic, I'm going to (sadly) cut 3 copies of Prime Speaker Vannifar from my list and going all-in on the Bow, also adding God-Eternal Oketra. In my quick testing, I felt like Vannifar was just another piece to protect, really taking its toll on my card choices. Mystic gives the list more elasticity to opposing threats, something that Deputy of Detention cannot do by himself, while Oketra is just a huge, hard to deal with threat that turns our late game Elves and Druids into more power on board. Also, she can be replayed immediately after being tucked thanks to the Bow, which is nuts.