The best decks in standard are a UBx control deck and a Mono-red aggro deck. The days of a variety of midrange are past us. Sure, other decks have some game, and are playable to an extent, but these two decks define the current meta.
How does everyone feel about this? I for one enjoyed our Rhino Overlords.
I don't agree that Mono Red is one of the best decks still. I'm also actually happy that midrange is dying off. Huge 400+ lifetotals were honestly ridiculously boring to watch and play. I also didn't enjoy Abzan being the only real competitor in the midrange category.
I don't think Abazan is quite out yet. The herp derp factor of Siege Rhino will always be there and Abazan has a good color combination to answer almost anything. It is refreshing though to see Green not be in the top as much. Ramp into Stupidness Midrange crap is pretty lame.
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To the people that say that a card needs to be a higher rarity because of Limited... I hate you guys so much. I present to you with this.
If you don't like this standard meta, and it's not diverse enough for you, you hate Magic the Gathering.
You'd be surprised how many people hate a diverse meta that changes every other week. Funny enough at my LGS it's the Modern players complaining that Standard isn't fun for that reason.
Lol, overreactions so bad in here. This time last month everyone was lamenting the 400 life point Mastery decks and the demise of Standard as a result. A few months back it was groaning about big dumb Rhinos rampaging over everyone.
Esper Dragons is here to stay as a contender, but after how quickly the metagame in this format has shifted the past few months it strikes me as foolish to write off all other contenders.
Magic is a constantly changing game. Adapt to the changing metagame or lose to it. It's how the game develops every new Standard. Aggro decks tend to dominate until Midrange decks come along at which point Control takes advantage of the slowed game state. Rinse, repeat. And then players whine about it until it changes again.
It's the circle of Magic.
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Magic is a constantly changing game. Adapt to the changing metagame or lose to it. It's how the game develops every new Standard. Aggro decks tend to dominate until Midrange decks come along at which point Control takes advantage of the slowed game state. Rinse, repeat. And then players whine about it until it changes again.
It's the circle of Magic.
Like it was constantly changing in RTR-THS Standard, when it was solved within a month and didn't change for a year?
A solved format is a solved format. DTK Standard is a solved format, and Esper Dragaons wins it.
If this format is solved, then is magic, despite variance and all a solved game as a whole?
Magic is a constantly changing game. Adapt to the changing metagame or lose to it. It's how the game develops every new Standard. Aggro decks tend to dominate until Midrange decks come along at which point Control takes advantage of the slowed game state. Rinse, repeat. And then players whine about it until it changes again.
It's the circle of Magic.
Like it was constantly changing in RTR-THS Standard, when it was solved within a month and didn't change for a year?
A solved format is a solved format. DTK Standard is a solved format, and Esper Dragaons wins it.
A Soulflayer Chromanticore deck won the RPTQ in KC yesterday. Abzan Megamorph came in second. UB Dragons came in third. Esper Dragons placed fourth. There was one Esper Dragons in the top eight of that event. Tell me again how Esper Dragons has solved the format.
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Bant Heroic took down GR Dragons in the SCG Open just now. Only 2 Esper Dragons in the top 8, finishing in 4th and 7th. No mono red/atarka red in top 8 at all. So there's that.
A solved format is a solved format. DTK Standard is a solved format, and Esper Dragaons wins it.
You need many more data points than a single event in order to declare a format "solved." To claim a single GP top 8 as representative of an entire format is absurd. Variance can and does happen. Sometimes a deck will be over-represented in a given event. Sometimes that very same deck will be under-represented. Sometimes that's because fewer skilled players take it to the top 8, sometimes it's because the deck got hated out, and sometimes it's just the luck of the draw. There's no reason to make shortsighted claims about a format given so little data, which is why people are prodding you about your assumptions and definitions. It's highly likely you're taking inductive reasoning too far and your logic's suffering for it.
In layman's terms, you're jumping to conclusions. Give the format some time to settle, then see if further top 8s are like that.
Honestly this thread is more ridiculous than the Siege Rhino/Thunderbreak Regent conspiracy threads. Really, you could even argue the Siege Rhino thread had some merit. But this is silly.
Esper Dragons was good because it wasn't at the forefront of everyone's minds, but now that it is there are just too many ways to beat it. The Deathmist Raptor and Den Protector combo being potentially the most obvious and powerful, and quite frankly I'm more terrified of the entire meta shifting to decks around those two cards because very few decks play Anger of the Gods anymore and they're incredibly good against the "best" deck.
How does everyone feel about this? I for one enjoyed our Rhino Overlords.
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I'd still wait about two to three months before making any conclusions about Midrange being killed off.
Standard: BG Golgari Midrange
Modern: U Merfolk GWUBR 5 Color Humans UBW Esper Gifts GW Bogles
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What op-ed piece is that?
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I don't think I could without employing time travel.
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You'd be surprised how many people hate a diverse meta that changes every other week. Funny enough at my LGS it's the Modern players complaining that Standard isn't fun for that reason.
Standard: BG Golgari Midrange
Modern: U Merfolk GWUBR 5 Color Humans UBW Esper Gifts GW Bogles
Again, we'll see how long Esper can hold the spot before it gets figured out (if it does).
Standard: BG Golgari Midrange
Modern: U Merfolk GWUBR 5 Color Humans UBW Esper Gifts GW Bogles
Esper Dragons is here to stay as a contender, but after how quickly the metagame in this format has shifted the past few months it strikes me as foolish to write off all other contenders.
GW ~ Angels ~ WG
Modern:
RBW ~ Shadowmancer ~ WBR
Legacy:
BUG ~ Shadow Delver ~ GUB
It's the circle of Magic.
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If this format is solved, then is magic, despite variance and all a solved game as a whole?
And by all of it, I do mean "all of it".
A Soulflayer Chromanticore deck won the RPTQ in KC yesterday. Abzan Megamorph came in second. UB Dragons came in third. Esper Dragons placed fourth. There was one Esper Dragons in the top eight of that event. Tell me again how Esper Dragons has solved the format.
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You need many more data points than a single event in order to declare a format "solved." To claim a single GP top 8 as representative of an entire format is absurd. Variance can and does happen. Sometimes a deck will be over-represented in a given event. Sometimes that very same deck will be under-represented. Sometimes that's because fewer skilled players take it to the top 8, sometimes it's because the deck got hated out, and sometimes it's just the luck of the draw. There's no reason to make shortsighted claims about a format given so little data, which is why people are prodding you about your assumptions and definitions. It's highly likely you're taking inductive reasoning too far and your logic's suffering for it.
In layman's terms, you're jumping to conclusions. Give the format some time to settle, then see if further top 8s are like that.
The world is on fire
and you are here to stay and burn with me.
Esper Dragons was good because it wasn't at the forefront of everyone's minds, but now that it is there are just too many ways to beat it. The Deathmist Raptor and Den Protector combo being potentially the most obvious and powerful, and quite frankly I'm more terrified of the entire meta shifting to decks around those two cards because very few decks play Anger of the Gods anymore and they're incredibly good against the "best" deck.
I won FNM with it using a suboptimal list. Dromoka's Command is broken in some situations.
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