Whelming Wave. I know there's no good Krakens to go with it, but surely a 4-mana sweeper is worth playing in a world with no other 4-mana sweepers? Polymorphist's Jest I'm dead set on making it work.
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Whelming Wave. I know there's no good Krakens to go with it, but surely a 4-mana sweeper is worth playing in a world with no other 4-mana sweepers? Polymorphist's Jest I'm dead set on making it work.
Jest is a considerably worse version of Sudden Spoiling which was *hyped* early when Time Spiral was released, then people quickly realised that it was only effective in a minority of games and was basically a blank card outside of those situations.
Whelming Wave - I think Aetherspouts is the better of the two blue "wraths", mainly because Wave is so cold to Stormbreath Dragon.
I give up on Aetherspouts because it often hits one creature. Jest sucks against +1 counters and auras and basically has the same problem as Aetherspouts, but it can be used aggressively and defensively. The best part is combo potential. I won't claim it's good, just it's awesomely cool.
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GB Electric Dreams BG Deal 20 in one shot, or discard their hand?
GWUFree Stuff MidrangeUWG Slowly bury the opponent with more threats and answers than they can handle.
I might be wrong, but I don't think Polymorphist's Jest works with Virulent Plague, since it doesn't create tokens. They're still represented by a card.
Although, actually that virulent plague and curse combo seems actually quite cool, just need more "turn into a 2 or 1 toughness" token effects in standard
I give up on Aetherspouts because it often hits one creature. Jest sucks against +1 counters and auras and basically has the same problem as Aetherspouts, but it can be used aggressively and defensively. The best part is combo potential. I won't claim it's good, just it's awesomely cool.
Aetherspouts is actually a card that has seen play in Standard though.
The most obvious answer is 2-colored gods. Pharika has seen standard play and Keranos even hit some modern sideboards, but that's it. Well, Xenagos and Ephara both had their 15 minutes of fame, but soon they were forgotten. The rest of them (including amazing cards like Athreos and Mogis)... nothing.
The most obvious answer is 2-colored gods. Pharika has seen standard play and Keranos even hit some modern sideboards, but that's it. Well, Xenagos and Ephara both had their 15 minutes of fame, but soon they were forgotten. The rest of them (including amazing cards like Athreos and Mogis)... nothing.
The most obvious answer is 2-colored gods. Pharika has seen standard play and Keranos even hit some modern sideboards, but that's it. Well, Xenagos and Ephara both had their 15 minutes of fame, but soon they were forgotten. The rest of them (including amazing cards like Athreos and Mogis)... nothing.
I have seen twinflame and like strive cards played in the Temur ascendancy and Jeskai ascendancy combo decks being the first legitimate combo threats since theros devotion (Aweful) ( even more many in the player base weren't there in the era of jace, stoneforge mystic, swords, splinter twin, deceiver exarch). Remember back when we got a flood of posts and threads saying it was broken, and replies that all you needed was enchantment removal. You know i believe those decks were even playable up to modern/legacy in some form.
I know i was hoping for the black bestow shadow wolf card (forgot the name, uh nighthowler wasn't it not) would do well, with something like nemesis of mortals.
I have said B/W warriors deck locally - and maindeck Atheros as a 2 of. - absolutely wrecks control sweepers except for Anger of the Gods.
The card I haven't seen out of M 15 is Obelisk of Urd. I would have thought that card should see play with all the token tech running around.
Obelisk of Urd saw play in white weenie early on but when Brave the elements and all of the other great white spells and creatures from Return to Ravnica block rotated the deck never really recovered. It is still good in RW and BW token decks but most of the time it 's the first card cut for something else.
Well RW a wasn't very color combination in theros, RW devotion was pretty hard to get going, RW heroic wasn't as good as UW heroic. No one tried Red devotion, white devotion with Brimaz struggled after the beginning of theros even with elspleth coming in. Mono blue devotion, mono black devotion and UW control had a stranglehold in the meta. Then came goblin rabblerouser and stormbreath dragon as finishers in red, why would anyone need anything else.
I much prefer Iroas, Purphoros as commanders. Not sure how good BW aggro weenie control is in commander.
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Jest is a considerably worse version of Sudden Spoiling which was *hyped* early when Time Spiral was released, then people quickly realised that it was only effective in a minority of games and was basically a blank card outside of those situations.
Whelming Wave - I think Aetherspouts is the better of the two blue "wraths", mainly because Wave is so cold to Stormbreath Dragon.
GB Electric Dreams BG Deal 20 in one shot, or discard their hand?
GWU Free Stuff Midrange UWG Slowly bury the opponent with more threats and answers than they can handle.
My greatest hits:
GURFate Reforged Temur Ascendancy COMBORUG
GUDragons of Tarkir Whisperwood Forever UG
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I might be wrong, but I don't think Polymorphist's Jest works with Virulent Plague, since it doesn't create tokens. They're still represented by a card.
Aetherspouts is actually a card that has seen play in Standard though.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Besides that, I agree with Reaper of the Wilds and Underworld Cerberus.
I think Athreos could start seeing some play in the warriors deck. Though... Unlikely if anger starts seeing a lot of play
Athreos didn't see play when xathrid necromancer and sin collector were in standard, meaning it will never see any play.
I love Underworld Cerberus as well as Mogis, God of Slaughter.
Wanted to make a Rakdos style burn/control type deck using Mogis, God of Slaughter as a sort of clock, and just burn and discard to keep their creatures off the field.
The card I haven't seen out of M 15 is Obelisk of Urd. I would have thought that card should see play with all the token tech running around.
I know i was hoping for the black bestow shadow wolf card (forgot the name, uh nighthowler wasn't it not) would do well, with something like nemesis of mortals.
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EDH:GRWHazezon TamarGRW, RKazuul, Tyrant of the CliffsR, BMikaeus, the UnhallowedB, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GRXenagos, God of RevelsGR, BGPharika, God of AfflictionBG
Standard:BMono Black Control(devotion)B- retired
Casual:UWHeroicUW, UGWall tribalUG, BPhylactery LichB
Modern:UBAbyssal PersecutorUB, WKnight TribalW
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I much prefer Iroas, Purphoros as commanders. Not sure how good BW aggro weenie control is in commander.
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All my Decks are budget
EDH:GRWHazezon TamarGRW, RKazuul, Tyrant of the CliffsR, BMikaeus, the UnhallowedB, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GRXenagos, God of RevelsGR, BGPharika, God of AfflictionBG
Standard:BMono Black Control(devotion)B- retired
Casual:UWHeroicUW, UGWall tribalUG, BPhylactery LichB
Modern:UBAbyssal PersecutorUB, WKnight TribalW
Agreed, Iroas should definitely have seen play!!
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I don't think either had any real top 8 results, but they did do some work from time to time.
Mine is Athreos. I tried so hard to make B/W Humans work with Athreos and the Black 2/2 that spit out zombie tokens when humans died.