I never see it in any decklists, yet it's a solid removal card. I think it can go great with UB or Sultai control decks, especially with Bile Blight. Maybe even use it in those heavy mana ramping Temur decks that use Xenagos. People talked about Reality Shift being a good removal card, yet I find Curse of the Swine to be significantly better.
It's never really going to break through at the competitive level, but it is an underrated card. Sorcery speed hurts it the most.
I ran a couple in the SB of my mono-blue devotion deck last season, along with ratchet bomb for a 1 sided sweeper. Also combos nicely with Battlefield Thaumaturge.
any card that needs a second card to be playable will never be playable. Yeah it's great with bile bilght and thaumaturge but without those its pretty crappy and even with them its not great. You're anticipating a board with 3+ creatures and having 7+ mana to do a 2 for 3 which is bad magic.
I'd rather see a bunch of 2/2s on the other side of the board than a bunch of Siege Rhinos. Yes, you will likely take some bear damage but the more important thing is you exile threats + prevent a lot of damage aka survive a couple more turns which is what a control deck wants.
I playtested this card and found it pretty decent in UR and UG control decks. It's even better if you play some 2/3s or 2/2 with first strike because then you can just eat the tokens by blocking. If you're splashing white or black then obviously you have better mass removal options but this card is for mono blue mainly which is a color that doesn't have much removal.
You're using 2 cards and 2 turns to do the same job 1 card such as crux of fate or end hostilities can do in one turn and you're not taking needless damage from boar tokens.
Never said that I absolutely need to use Bile Blight with Curse of the Swine; simply said that it compliments them. But if I have Carytids and Coursers up against some beefy guys, I'd rather have them deal with the 2/2 Boars. Not to mention, I wouldn't destroy my own guys with Crux/Hostilities.
Powerful effect, but decks that run double blue usually don't want to tap out on their turn. It just doesn't have a powerful deck it can slide into. There are a few cards that really combo well with it, but as mentioned above, they leave you vulnerable. Obviously any bounce effect, especially Whelming Wave, Aetherspouts, or Scourge of the Fleets can do a lot with it.
I guess if you're into true jank, you could use it to upgrade a bunch of your own 1/1 tokens, preferably with a Purphoros, God of the Forge in play.
I'd say it's just that standard ain't the format for this card. Curse of the Swine is pretty good in commander, and can find some niche roles in eternal formats too.
I've been thinking about this card over a tonne the last week, and I think it's the missing piece in my UG Yisan deck. Yisan, the Wanderer Bard is pretty good at getting you to the late game by flooding the board with bodies and grabbing you specific answers as necessary (Polukranos, World Eater, Nylea's Disciple, Reclamation Sage, etc). In combination with Kiora's Follower and Prophet of Kruphix you can build up a really intense board state really quickly, but the only problem is if the opponent also builds up a big value engine, such as the Constellation decks. That's where Curse of Swine comes in, turning their entire army into bacon which your fat green blockers can easily eat up.
But I can't really think of another deck that would want to play the card.
hey guys, I'm really new to magic....and this forum pls put up with my noobiness
I have these starter decks called "fate" and "fury"
in the "fate" deck I got Curse of the Swine, and I wanna know, if you use it on your opponents' monsters, do the boar tokens they get have summoning sickness? o.<
They do technically have summoning sickness but since it's your turn, by the time they get to their turn the summoning sickness will end and they can attack. Summoning sickness ends at the beginning of the controller's upkeep.
The card just seems bad. Sure, an army of 2/2s is still probably better to face than whatever you were exiling, but why not just play Crux of Fate, End Hostilities or Anger of the Gods? If you're running mono blue then I'd still rather have AEtherspouts.
Anger of the Gods also exiles. Just play that. The only creatures you might want to exile that that Anger doesn't hit are the dragons if their controller is running Haven of the Spirit Dragon, but the deck where that's the biggest issue is likely running a whole lot of Hexproof dragons anyway, so it's not that relevant.
Everybody's getting derailed by "but then you have to deal with the 2/2 tokens!" No, no you don't.
Sure, if you're running white, black, or red, there are better mass removal options. In blue, however, this is removal that EXILES, something blue doesn't get to do too often, and is relatively cheap to cast. It isn't supposed to be Supreme Verdict. If I'm casting this at all, I'm casting it at some nasty huge Godzilla with a bunch of abilities that's going to kill me next turn. Yeah, sure, have a Grizzly Bear instead, compliments of the house. Note Rapid Hybridization was a functional Pongify reprint and RTR-THS Standard MBD MUD ran it and loved it.
"But then you have to run other cards!" - It's a 60 card deck. I have to run something else anyway.
Hybridization is also only 1 mana. This is at least 3 if you want to hit a single dude. The only mono blue deck that's currently at all competitive does not want this card. It doesn't have room for this card. You say "It's a 60 card deck" like when you build decks you've got 10 cards left over and no idea what should go in those slots, but that's not how it really works. And if you have to run a second card to make the first card do something else that other cards can do by themselves, then it's a bad card.
Everybody's getting derailed by "but then you have to deal with the 2/2 tokens!" No, no you don't.
Sure, if you're running white, black, or red, there are better mass removal options. In blue, however, this is removal that EXILES, something blue doesn't get to do too often, and is relatively cheap to cast. It isn't supposed to be Supreme Verdict. If I'm casting this at all, I'm casting it at some nasty huge Godzilla with a bunch of abilities that's going to kill me next turn. Yeah, sure, have a Grizzly Bear instead, compliments of the house. Note Rapid Hybridization was a functional Pongify reprint and RTR-THS Standard MBD ran it and loved it.
"But then you have to run other cards!" - It's a 60 card deck. I have to run something else anyway.
Just a tip with the bolded part. Mono Black devotion did not run this card, but mono blue devotion or MUD did. Just a hint in case it confuses people.
Anyway, I do believe this card had merit, but the big problem is that it isn't instant. Were it instant, it could probably have seen more play simply because doing it at instant speed gives you the ability to untap and deal with it. Though I guess running with virulent plague wouldn't be bad. Virulent plague has the problem though that there isn't copies 5-8 of curse to run. If you could basically run 8 copies of curse, then the plague deck could be formed.
Anyway, yeah, OP asked "Is this card decent?" not ZOMG-run-it-4x-mandatory. Decent, yes. Good option to have if you're in mono blue, yes. A house in Commander, where you have big problem, beefy dudes you need gone and don't care beans if they get some 2/2s out of it. But not at all a better option than other wipes in other colors.
You know, I could argue that Reaper of the Wilds is decent, doesn't mean it'll see a lick of play anywhere.
Anyway, yeah, OP asked "Is this card decent?" not ZOMG-run-it-4x-mandatory. Decent, yes. Good option to have if you're in mono blue, yes. A house in Commander, where you have big problem, beefy dudes you need gone and don't care beans if they get some 2/2s out of it. But not at all a better option than other wipes in other colors.
You know, I could argue that Reaper of the Wilds is decent, doesn't mean it'll see a lick of play anywhere.
Which is weird, always expected it to see more play with the whole hexproof and deathtouch thing.
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I ran a couple in the SB of my mono-blue devotion deck last season, along with ratchet bomb for a 1 sided sweeper. Also combos nicely with Battlefield Thaumaturge.
Without Quicken it's no good. Quicken rotated with Supreme Verdict which was the card you'd prefer to play with Quicken.
Wizards didn't want to print any U cantrip along with prowess. Blame prowess.
I'd rather see a bunch of 2/2s on the other side of the board than a bunch of Siege Rhinos. Yes, you will likely take some bear damage but the more important thing is you exile threats + prevent a lot of damage aka survive a couple more turns which is what a control deck wants.
I playtested this card and found it pretty decent in UR and UG control decks. It's even better if you play some 2/3s or 2/2 with first strike because then you can just eat the tokens by blocking. If you're splashing white or black then obviously you have better mass removal options but this card is for mono blue mainly which is a color that doesn't have much removal.
I personally use Curse of the Swine with Whelming Wave + ETB creatures like Omenspeaker. Omenspeaker can block a 2/2 and the wave just exiles all tokens in play.
I guess if you're into true jank, you could use it to upgrade a bunch of your own 1/1 tokens, preferably with a Purphoros, God of the Forge in play.
But I can't really think of another deck that would want to play the card.
I have these starter decks called "fate" and "fury"
in the "fate" deck I got Curse of the Swine, and I wanna know, if you use it on your opponents' monsters, do the boar tokens they get have summoning sickness? o.<
Sure, if you're running white, black, or red, there are better mass removal options. In blue, however, this is removal that EXILES, something blue doesn't get to do too often, and is relatively cheap to cast. It isn't supposed to be Supreme Verdict. If I'm casting this at all, I'm casting it at some nasty huge Godzilla with a bunch of abilities that's going to kill me next turn. Yeah, sure, have a Grizzly Bear instead, compliments of the house. Note Rapid Hybridization was a functional Pongify reprint and RTR-THS Standard
MBDMUD ran it and loved it."But then you have to run other cards!" - It's a 60 card deck. I have to run something else anyway.
Just a tip with the bolded part. Mono Black devotion did not run this card, but mono blue devotion or MUD did. Just a hint in case it confuses people.
Anyway, I do believe this card had merit, but the big problem is that it isn't instant. Were it instant, it could probably have seen more play simply because doing it at instant speed gives you the ability to untap and deal with it. Though I guess running with virulent plague wouldn't be bad. Virulent plague has the problem though that there isn't copies 5-8 of curse to run. If you could basically run 8 copies of curse, then the plague deck could be formed.
Anyway, yeah, OP asked "Is this card decent?" not ZOMG-run-it-4x-mandatory. Decent, yes. Good option to have if you're in mono blue, yes. A house in Commander, where you have big problem, beefy dudes you need gone and don't care beans if they get some 2/2s out of it. But not at all a better option than other wipes in other colors.
You know, I could argue that Reaper of the Wilds is decent, doesn't mean it'll see a lick of play anywhere.
Which is weird, always expected it to see more play with the whole hexproof and deathtouch thing.