I feel there are too many "verbal traps" in tournaments. You can say the exact same thing in a number of ways, some of which leads to disqualification. I'm whinging here because, if they disclosed the name of the player, might as well let us know what the "interview" was so we know what's against the rules. This is especially since English is not the first language for most players there.
On the other hand, wouldn't disclosing how the interview was conducted help people to cheat in the future? I also find it strange that you assume judges aren't able to tell the difference between someone trying to hide that they're cheating and someone who just isn't very good at English.
Judges aren't emotionless robots placed on the tournament floor merely to trick players into accidentally disqualifying themselves via semantics; a judge who is presumably a human being with a soul and some amount of training in catching cheaters had an actual conversation with this player, and from the conversation the judge surmised that the player was trying to gain an advantage by intentionally skipping something mandatory in the game. I see no reason to believe that the player made a gameplay error, got caught, and subsequently managed to act so strangely during an investigation that they ended up getting completely disqualified from the event on accident.
So is Abzan aggro just better than Abzan midrange?
I think what's happening is the spells under 4CMC are avoiding all the main deck Disdainful Stroke in the UB control decks and the Siege Rhino life gain is doing well against the burn spells in Jeskai. Not sure though, could have been good match ups.
It's very hard to tell. The best decks aren't those being piloted by the players that went 3-0 in draft. It's a mistake to think like that.
I think the best deck is Parke's. He got terribly unlucky against Brad Nelson in game 2 and punted it a bit in game 3 trying to cast Deflecting Palm with the wrong mana and losing because he had given away that he had it. He started the day 0-2 yet went unbeaten through the standard portion until that match with Bard Narson.
I feel there are too many "verbal traps" in tournaments. You can say the exact same thing in a number of ways, some of which leads to disqualification. I'm whinging here because, if they disclosed the name of the player, might as well let us know what the "interview" was so we know what's against the rules. This is especially since English is not the first language for most players there.
On the other hand, wouldn't disclosing how the interview was conducted help people to cheat in the future? I also find it strange that you assume judges aren't able to tell the difference between someone trying to hide that they're cheating and someone who just isn't very good at English.
Judges aren't emotionless robots placed on the tournament floor merely to trick players into accidentally disqualifying themselves via semantics; a judge who is presumably a human being with a soul and some amount of training in catching cheaters had an actual conversation with this player, and from the conversation the judge surmised that the player was trying to gain an advantage by intentionally skipping something mandatory in the game. I see no reason to believe that the player made a gameplay error, got caught, and subsequently managed to act so strangely during an investigation that they ended up getting completely disqualified from the event on accident.
You know if it were Patrick Chapin or some other popular American player, he would just get a slap on the wrist instead of a DQ.
I'm glad they're not releasing the name so that we don't get a witch hunt going here. He's already been dq'd, no need to go further and drag his name through the mud. Let's just enjoy the pro tour and ignore this drama.
I'm glad they're not releasing the name so that we don't get a witch hunt going here. He's already been dq'd, no need to go further and drag his name through the mud. Let's just enjoy the pro tour and ignore this drama.
The name of the player? It's right at the top of the article:
During Round 7 of Pro Tour Khans of Tarkir, competitor Lee Joong-Won was disqualified from the tournament.
Regardless, there's no reason for a witch hunt. He may have thought you can do that or not, it was against the rules and has been dealt with.
Edit: To add futher discussion away from this, I'm really interested how well those RWx control decks are faring. Anger of the Gods and End Hostilities feels like a pretty solid combination to deal with creature decks.
So is Abzan aggro just better than Abzan midrange?
I think what's happening is the spells under 4CMC are avoiding all the main deck Disdainful Stroke in the UB control decks and the Siege Rhino life gain is doing well against the burn spells in Jeskai. Not sure though, could have been good match ups.
It's also better tuned for the meta. Being aggressive means you get a lot less punished by Jeskai Burn for a painful manabase, you have a better game against any number of UB control lists running around, and you put out a faster clock against Ascendancy combo.
Dig Through Time in particular had a crazy night: up to $15.50 from around $6 - Dig Through Time price
I understand that financial news and strategy are distinct things but there is a strong correlation between a price jump and how underestimated a card was going in to the tournament.
These jeskai ascendacy decks are built all wrong. 1 of alter of the brood to win the game but 4 commune with the gods and 2 wayfinds that will dump it into your yard? I guess the 1 of swan song is the back up plan?
Edit: To add futher discussion away from this, I'm really interested how well those RWx control decks are faring. Anger of the Gods and End Hostilities feels like a pretty solid combination to deal with creature decks.
In the feature match it had, it seemed like control was able to trade 1:1 for awhile but it just can't maintain the advantage, eventually the opponent draws out of it.
Just as easily though, the mardu control has so much disruption in most lists i see, that it can snag the ingenuities and divinations. Missing sphinx's and azorious charm are really big losses.
Just as easily though, the mardu control has so much disruption in most lists i see, that it can snag the ingenuities and divinations. Missing sphinx's and azorious charm are really big losses.
The problem seems to be one of pressure. Disruption, counters, and removal are all great but you need a clock to back it up. You can't try and take the games to 30 turns.
Mardu mid-range/control has access to some great stand-alone cards that can provide a good clock, even cards like Goblin Rabblemaster on an empty board become a huge threat. And these cards usually entail some card advantage as well, so I am quite surprised to see Mardu didn´t get much love.
I'm also surprised. Especially since the meta is Jeskai heavy and Mardu mid-range/control/planeswalker has a decent match up against Jeskai tempo/aggro.
Mardu mid-range/control has access to some great stand-alone cards that can provide a good clock, even cards like Goblin Rabblemaster on an empty board become a huge threat. And these cards usually entail some card advantage as well, so I am quite surprised to see Mardu didn´t get much love.
From what I've seen Rabblemaster lines up poorly against other red decks. Every time it has taken over on camera required multiples on the field.
Just as easily though, the mardu control has so much disruption in most lists i see, that it can snag the ingenuities and divinations. Missing sphinx's and azorious charm are really big losses.
The problem seems to be one of pressure. Disruption, counters, and removal are all great but you need a clock to back it up. You can't try and take the games to 30 turns.
That's strange you say that, some of the most threatening permanents consist of some combination of RWB
Just as easily though, the mardu control has so much disruption in most lists i see, that it can snag the ingenuities and divinations. Missing sphinx's and azorious charm are really big losses.
The problem seems to be one of pressure. Disruption, counters, and removal are all great but you need a clock to back it up. You can't try and take the games to 30 turns.
That's strange you say that, some of the most threatening permanents consist of some combination of RWB
And every one of those permanents involved some sort of clock. Sarkhan, Rabblemaster, Stormbreath, Mantis Rider, and so on. Long games in this format are turn 10, not turn 30.
Lol...DTT was 4$ yesterday and now it's 16$. Thank god I bought 7 pre-release foils @ 14$ a piece and 8 regular for 3$ a piece. How on Earth people slept on this card I don't know...(maybe it's just my inner blue mage in me that swallows up any imminently playable card draw spells esp. @ 2-4 mana :p).
I've been sitting on 28 copies of Dig Through Time and telling people how good it is. Still, other wanted to play stuff like Jace's Ingenuity
I think it was Maclaren showcasing some nice Digging action, chained together like 3 of them while grabbing stuff like burn & counters
Anyone know when the Standard matches start back up? Got no interest in draft.
We're in round 10 now, and it starts with round 12. So as of this post you've got about 1.5 rounds to go so you're looking at probably 70 minutes +/- 10.
Anyone know when the Standard matches start back up? Got no interest in draft.
We're in round 10 now, and it starts with round 12. So as of this post you've got about 1.5 rounds to go so you're looking at probably 70 minutes +/- 10.
I don't get why the UB control deck isn't grixis. You have 8 fetchlands and 12 scrylands for it. Seems to lack some sweepers and such since perilous vault is kind of slow in comparison to anger of the gods. Good spot removal too with magma jet, magma spray, lightning strike, etc. etc.
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On the other hand, wouldn't disclosing how the interview was conducted help people to cheat in the future? I also find it strange that you assume judges aren't able to tell the difference between someone trying to hide that they're cheating and someone who just isn't very good at English.
Judges aren't emotionless robots placed on the tournament floor merely to trick players into accidentally disqualifying themselves via semantics; a judge who is presumably a human being with a soul and some amount of training in catching cheaters had an actual conversation with this player, and from the conversation the judge surmised that the player was trying to gain an advantage by intentionally skipping something mandatory in the game. I see no reason to believe that the player made a gameplay error, got caught, and subsequently managed to act so strangely during an investigation that they ended up getting completely disqualified from the event on accident.
I think what's happening is the spells under 4CMC are avoiding all the main deck Disdainful Stroke in the UB control decks and the Siege Rhino life gain is doing well against the burn spells in Jeskai. Not sure though, could have been good match ups.
It's very hard to tell. The best decks aren't those being piloted by the players that went 3-0 in draft. It's a mistake to think like that.
I think the best deck is Parke's. He got terribly unlucky against Brad Nelson in game 2 and punted it a bit in game 3 trying to cast Deflecting Palm with the wrong mana and losing because he had given away that he had it. He started the day 0-2 yet went unbeaten through the standard portion until that match with Bard Narson.
The name of the player? It's right at the top of the article:
Regardless, there's no reason for a witch hunt. He may have thought you can do that or not, it was against the rules and has been dealt with.
Edit: To add futher discussion away from this, I'm really interested how well those RWx control decks are faring. Anger of the Gods and End Hostilities feels like a pretty solid combination to deal with creature decks.
It's also better tuned for the meta. Being aggressive means you get a lot less punished by Jeskai Burn for a painful manabase, you have a better game against any number of UB control lists running around, and you put out a faster clock against Ascendancy combo.
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Dig Through Time in particular had a crazy night: up to $15.50 from around $6 - Dig Through Time price
I understand that financial news and strategy are distinct things but there is a strong correlation between a price jump and how underestimated a card was going in to the tournament.
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In the feature match it had, it seemed like control was able to trade 1:1 for awhile but it just can't maintain the advantage, eventually the opponent draws out of it.
The problem seems to be one of pressure. Disruption, counters, and removal are all great but you need a clock to back it up. You can't try and take the games to 30 turns.
From what I've seen Rabblemaster lines up poorly against other red decks. Every time it has taken over on camera required multiples on the field.
That's strange you say that, some of the most threatening permanents consist of some combination of RWB
And every one of those permanents involved some sort of clock. Sarkhan, Rabblemaster, Stormbreath, Mantis Rider, and so on. Long games in this format are turn 10, not turn 30.
I've been sitting on 28 copies of Dig Through Time and telling people how good it is. Still, other wanted to play stuff like Jace's Ingenuity
I think it was Maclaren showcasing some nice Digging action, chained together like 3 of them while grabbing stuff like burn & counters
We're in round 10 now, and it starts with round 12. So as of this post you've got about 1.5 rounds to go so you're looking at probably 70 minutes +/- 10.
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