MTG Salvation

I find the standard forum a little too heavy so here is a lighter topic.

What cards does your deck struggle to beat but aren't really common enough to need answers? Basically narrow hate cards or those curve ball cards people occasionally blindside you with.

I just can't beat Heilod, god of the sun.. no one plays him except people that can't afford the other gods and he crushes my deck everytime. I am happily kill their two and three drop creatures then bamn heliod and I am buried in 2/1 enchantment creatures for the rest of the game. I kind of wonder why no one is playing him but a little glad at the same time.

reaper of the wilds

None of my decks that I have built can usually beat a lucky Ashiok hit. =\

Maze's End, UWr Control, MBA

Maze : Get lucky and rip out all copies of a gate. // Rip out all copies of Crackling Perimeter.

UWr Control : Rip out win conditions / Elixir

MBA : Rip out creatures to block with.

I managed to luckily win in three tough games, but a couple weeks back I played against a gentleman running 4-color midrange with main-deck Slaughter Games. He knew I was running Esper control, so in all three games I got my Sphinx's Revelations ripped out on turn 4. It was brutal.

I just can't beat Heilod, god of the sun.. no one plays him except people that can't afford the other gods and he crushes my deck everytime. I am happily kill their two and three drop creatures then bamn heliod and I am buried in 2/1 enchantment creatures for the rest of the game. I kind of wonder why no one is playing him but a little glad at the same time.

I have to ask, what deck are you running such that Heliod is such an issue? Exile effects are fairly prevalent in Standard currently, and those Cleric tokens come out very slowly.

I agree with Ashiok. Turn 3, its just so early to have to deal with a 5 toughness planeswalker. By the time i can finally attack it with any power, the fcker is ticked up to 7 or 9. It saves someone SO much life, it doesnt even need to do anything else.

Before Theros, I was blind-sided by Tajic, Blade of the Legion while playing Jund.

I had no real answers, so I was forced to double Golgari Charm to kill it...

Skylasher is amazing against Mono Blue, but most people I've played against using green-heavy decks don't play it, even in their sideboard.

Havoc Festival can get really ugly for pretty much any deck, the problem is it always cuts both ways.

Burning Earth

Why Boros Burn decks don't play more (or even 1) of this always alludes me....

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Skylasher is amazing against Mono Blue, but most people I've played against using green-heavy decks don't play it, even in their sideboard.

I've blown out an R/G monsters deck before thanks to Skylasher. They swung with Mutavault on T2, flash in Skylasher for the block, and they scooped. Must have been an iffy hand, lol.

Fog, I was playing a White Weenie deck against Mono Green devotion and it was like turn 4 or 5, I drew Brave The Elements my eyes lit up I'm sending the team and he responded Fog. Didn't see that coming.

Grixis can't remove enchantments If I let it them get the devotion to be a creature to hit with silence the believers I'm probably dead to Brimaz or whatever they have used to turn him on. I am pretty sure I haven't beaten any god but for whatever reason Heliod feels the worst because of its drowning 2/1s feel the others have the decency to kill fast I can repeatedly kill the 2/1s but eventually I'll drown in card disadvantage.

I hope the Golgari cards get to seem more play now we have thier temple they are really good cards.

you can't beat a 2/1 turn 5? How does your deck win exactly? Like seriously how does it beat any deck?

Anger of the Gods, overloaded Mizzium Mortars

its not just onme 2/1 on turn 5. its a constant stream of 2/1s that he cant get rid of the source

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you can't beat a 2/1 turn 5? How does your deck win exactly? Like seriously how does it beat any deck?

"A 2/1" isn't beating anyone. A permanent your deck can't remove that continuously creates 2/1s is a problem.

In Grixis colors, have you tried Izzet Staticaster? It holds off any number of x/1s as long as you can protect it (and keep Spears off the table).

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Grixis can't remove enchantments If I let it them get the devotion to be a creature to hit with silence the believers I'm probably dead to Brimaz or whatever they have used to turn him on. I am pretty sure I haven't beaten any god but for whatever reason Heliod feels the worst because of its drowning 2/1s feel the others have the decency to kill fast I can repeatedly kill the 2/1s but eventually I'll drown in card disadvantage.

I hope the Golgari cards get to seem more play now we have thier temple they are really good cards.

Illness in the Ranks? It's not overly horrible now with Elspeth, Pack Rat, and Pharika lurking around, too.

Illness has been suggested and I used to play staticaster but then switched to frostburn weird (I also removed Ral). ilness also hits Master of waves.

The question is it worth the slot in the sideboard?
Do you really see Heliod enough for it to matter?

Hmm starting to make me consider putting in staticaster again though. I forgot about it it does seem less narrow than illness since I can shoot white weenies but then do I want drown in sorrow instead?

basically I have difficult sideboarding decisions for the weekend and you should move disscussion to my decks thread: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/standard-type-2/standard-deck-creation/558737-grixis-controling

Contaminated ground......

Abhorrent Overlord

Just when you might be getting your board set against mono black they do this.

Kudos on playing something different but omg does it hit hard.

i dont know about your meta but i see a lot of mutavault...

jk jk

seriously though i play mazes end fog so skullcrack and ember swallower really are a pain. R/G monsters is just still popular enough that it shows up occasionally

Drown in Sorrow, Anger of the Gods, and Supreme Verdict on a bad draw. White weenie can't overcome turn 3 wipes.

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Drown in Sorrow, Anger of the Gods, and Supreme Verdict on a bad draw. White weenie can't overcome turn 3 wipes.

Not true that's why they run Mutavault and they also run Fortify , Rootborn Defenses, Ajani's Presence not to mention they run Judge's Familiar which delays spells. A smart player won't over extend.

Sylvan Primordial i just can remove them fast enough before they start destroying everything i love