It is an event fot the best 16 players. Massacre event!
For what it's worth vintage is doing a top 16 championship this weekend. The format is
The format for this event will be 4 rounds of swiss rounds followed by a cut to top 4. After the first two players are eliminated those players will then be paired in a additional match to decide 3rd and 4th.
It seems a lot more fair (and more fun) than single elimination to me. Just my two cents.
Can we get a ruling on Thought Lash? Apparently it is bugged. I like running the deck and ran it Friday but ran something else Sunday due to the the bug. If it's bugged then it should be on the banlist so no one can play it. If it's not on the banlist I might continue to play it. I'm going to have it as an option until there is a ruling on it. If the ruling is to ban it, then I'm ok with that, but there needs to be an official ruling.
I don't cheat, at least that was not intentional. I guess i did break the rule of not playing the same deck I submitted.
I just built the deck before the event and forget to reexport the list after the last change. Ended up copy pasting the version before.
Just realized it after the event ended.
the correct version is:
SB: -1 BEB, -2 Aetherize, +1 Witchbane Orb, +2 Propaganda.
I used this version from round 1. Can't really prove it aside from playing witchbane orb against gumgod in round 3.
So, I was looking at today's event (10.66) and noticed something on holica's list...
While in the final, game 2 was decided by an early propaganda. Game 3 there was another propaganda played, and while it slowed down the opponent, it didn't stop holica from losing the game. But there are no propagandas in the list. Not on the main deck and not on the sideboard. And they played each other in the swiss and holica lost, so he knew what he us up against and he knew what cards he needed to play...
Did holica cheat? And what's the punishment for these cases? No point in giving a game loss, because he lost anyway...
If it's proven he cheated, I hope the punishment isn't too soft. I'm already thinking about seeing all my opponent's decklists after the events end, or just the ones where they have good sideboard answers. It's making me suspicious, and if there isn't a harsh answer to cheaters, anybody can do it without fear.
He posted about this mistake in the in game chat, right after the event ended.
1 - This is not the first time that you use cards that are not in your submited gatherling decklist.
2 - It's the first time that you play with the deck, you could not just copy-pasted your last version of the deck in gatherling and forget to edit it. Export the deck before the deck as .TXT avoids it, it does not make sense.
3 - You already have lost for AEFabricio in round 2 - which Propaganda was not shown. In the finals it appeared in G2 and G3. It was a really convenient addition.
You are the greatest heirloom player all time, but from now I have doubt if you reached it honestly...
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1 - This is not the first time that you use cards that are not in your submited gatherling decklist.
2 - It's the first time that you play with the deck, you could not just copy-pasted your last version of the deck in gatherling and forget to edit it. Export the deck before the deck as .TXT avoids it, it does not make sense.
3 - You already have lost for AEFabricio in round 2 - which Propaganda was not shown. In the finals it appeared in G2 and G3. It was a really convenient addition.
You are the greatest heirloom player all time, but from now I have doubt if you reached it honestly...
LOL, what is this *****..
1. really? tell me about the other time then.
2. I'm not talking about the last version in gatherling. In MTGO after making my deck I export it as a txt file then copy pasted it to gatherling.
3. I did have propaganda in R2 I just didn't draw it after all there is only 2 copies. You didn't see any aetherize as well didn't you.
tbh, I don't really care about punishment. But I hate being accused of cheating. Cheating for 3 extra credits? Lame.
1 - This is not the first time that you use cards that are not in your submited gatherling decklist.
2 - It's the first time that you play with the deck, you could not just copy-pasted your last version of the deck in gatherling and forget to edit it. Export the deck before the deck as .TXT avoids it, it does not make sense.
3 - You already have lost for AEFabricio in round 2 - which Propaganda was not shown. In the finals it appeared in G2 and G3. It was a really convenient addition.
You are the greatest heirloom player all time, but from now I have doubt if you reached it honestly...
LOL, what is this *****..
1. really? tell me about the other time then.
2. I'm not talking about the last version in gatherling. In MTGO after making my deck I export it as a txt file then copy pasted it to gatherling.
3. I did have propaganda in R2 I just didn't draw it after all there is only 2 copies. You didn't see any aetherize as well didn't you.
tbh, I don't really care about punishment. But I hate being accused of cheating. Cheating for 3 extra credits? Lame.
Lordpipas said that already punished you before with a match loss when you used a card that was not listed on gatherling.
It's your word agains the facts, and you must agree that it is really convenient.
I was caught cheating I would also say that I do not care for punishment and that is ridiculous cheat for only 3 extra credits... It's the obvious reaction...
1 - This is not the first time that you use cards that are not in your submited gatherling decklist.
2 - It's the first time that you play with the deck, you could not just copy-pasted your last version of the deck in gatherling and forget to edit it. Export the deck before the deck as .TXT avoids it, it does not make sense.
3 - You already have lost for AEFabricio in round 2 - which Propaganda was not shown. In the finals it appeared in G2 and G3. It was a really convenient addition.
You are the greatest heirloom player all time, but from now I have doubt if you reached it honestly...
LOL, what is this *****..
1. really? tell me about the other time then.
2. I'm not talking about the last version in gatherling. In MTGO after making my deck I export it as a txt file then copy pasted it to gatherling.
3. I did have propaganda in R2 I just didn't draw it after all there is only 2 copies. You didn't see any aetherize as well didn't you.
tbh, I don't really care about punishment. But I hate being accused of cheating. Cheating for 3 extra credits? Lame.
Lordpipas said that already punished you before with a match loss when you used a card that was not listed on gatherling.
It's your word agains the facts, and you must agree that it is really convenient.
I was caught cheating I would also say that I do not care for punishment and that is ridiculous cheat for only 3 extra credits... It's the obvious reaction...
When is this happening cause I can't remember anything like this happening before? go confirm here pipas.
Yes, I agree it's convenient. Had a hunch this would happen when I see my decklist after the event is over. That's why I posted the correction on chat.
I don't care the punishment regarding of playing different list. But I DO care of you accusing me of cheating intentionally.
1 - This is not the first time that you use cards that are not in your submited gatherling decklist.
2 - It's the first time that you play with the deck, you could not just copy-pasted your last version of the deck in gatherling and forget to edit it. Export the deck before the deck as .TXT avoids it, it does not make sense.
3 - You already have lost for AEFabricio in round 2 - which Propaganda was not shown. In the finals it appeared in G2 and G3. It was a really convenient addition.
You are the greatest heirloom player all time, but from now I have doubt if you reached it honestly...
LOL, what is this *****..
1. really? tell me about the other time then.
2. I'm not talking about the last version in gatherling. In MTGO after making my deck I export it as a txt file then copy pasted it to gatherling.
3. I did have propaganda in R2 I just didn't draw it after all there is only 2 copies. You didn't see any aetherize as well didn't you.
tbh, I don't really care about punishment. But I hate being accused of cheating. Cheating for 3 extra credits? Lame.
Lordpipas said that already punished you before with a match loss when you used a card that was not listed on gatherling.
It's your word agains the facts, and you must agree that it is really convenient.
I was caught cheating I would also say that I do not care for punishment and that is ridiculous cheat for only 3 extra credits... It's the obvious reaction...
When is this happening cause I can't remember anything like this happening before? go confirm here pipas.
Yes, I agree it's convenient. Had a hunch this would happen when I see my decklist after the event is over. That's why I posted the correction on chat.
I don't care the punishment regarding of playing different list. But I DO care of you accusing me of cheating intentionally.
Pipas said it for me on Whatsapp, when he see it here he will confirm.
I belive in you, you are not cheating. If you have cheated intentionally, you would keep using arguments about how you are not wrong and just use non-emotive arguments. You are not lying, you just does not accept to be wronged for a thing that you did not. It's a typical behavior of a wronged person, however it's really easy to simulate by a computer.
i dont know list are daunting if a guy screws up twice on list in a career it is totally plaisable im senseing the one was a while back i have legitly acidently screwed up lists in paper and once two cards stuck togetjer i drew 8 acidemtly and noticed it when i looked at my hand and imediately told my oponent i dont think that deserved a filed warning i befrauded noone amd did not try to play it i quit playing for a while it was fnm too not a large tourney it should have been a game loss so atm i give him the benefit of the doubt holica
we are having a event this sunday right? i don't see it on calendar as I logged on to see what won Friday. I'm back able to play so hopefully it is going :).
has Classic Heirloom 10.70 from may 8th been reported yet? just curious as I haven't gotten a e-mail yet. just was curious :). also gl this sunday don't think Ill be able to play this week I'm qualified for Standard Champs so unless I like 0-3 drop going to be trying to atleast top 128 for 5 packs :).
Still hoping to hear from you pippa when your back online about if the tourney was ever reported to traders (still waiting on e-mail)
Also wanted to bring something up for a shakeup after eternal masters maybe we should have a Vintage Heirloom one week :). would love to play things like sol ring and necropotence even if its only for a week.
Second the idea of "vintage" heirloom. There are a number of cards that are probably cheap enough. Fastbond, Skullclamp, Necropotence... Dark Ritual... you know the broken things we can't normally play...
Although given the fact that we restrict the use of cards like Swords to Plowshares, I'm not sure if this will actually happen.
Second the idea of "vintage" heirloom. There are a number of cards that are probably cheap enough. Fastbond, Skullclamp, Necropotence... Dark Ritual... you know the broken things we can't normally play...
Although given the fact that we restrict the use of cards like Swords to Plowshares, I'm not sure if this will actually happen.
well i'd think that something like dark ritual would still have to stay banned If we were able to do that format as a one off or even as a Once a month thing Would be cool.... unfortunately as lack of FOW would make dark ritual a turn 1 kill. but without moxen or lotus not much else would change other than cards like Library/Yawgmoth will/Yawgmoth bargain/wheel of fortune/vamp tutor/Mental mistep being allowed as 1x and some 4x's would be allowed opening up new stuff to build around.
- Next week we will have the rotation. I have the prices.
- The sponsor will add all prizes next week. Sorry for the delay.
- I have internet connection again.
Bad news:
- No event today. I have not time and Yokai / TLR can host.
- I cant host any more. I have new responsability in my work. I am searching a new host for Heirloom events (Friday and Sunday). I will play regular but i cant host
- Next week we will have the rotation. I have the prices.
- The sponsor will add all prizes next week. Sorry for the delay.
- I have internet connection again.
Bad news:
- No event today. I have not time and Yokai / TLR can host.
- I cant host any more. I have new responsability in my work. I am searching a new host for Heirloom events (Friday and Sunday). I will play regular but i cant host
Thanks to Yokai and TLR for his help!!
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Lordpipas
Thanks for the updates, glad to see you have internet again.
Don't miss the S100 birthday event tomorrow! We have triple the usual prizes and distribute until place 8. + doorprize
Checkout http://tinyurl.com/Chainsaw-S100 for all the details.
For what it's worth vintage is doing a top 16 championship this weekend. The format is
It seems a lot more fair (and more fun) than single elimination to me. Just my two cents.
I just built the deck before the event and forget to reexport the list after the last change. Ended up copy pasting the version before.
Just realized it after the event ended.
the correct version is:
SB: -1 BEB, -2 Aetherize, +1 Witchbane Orb, +2 Propaganda.
I used this version from round 1. Can't really prove it aside from playing witchbane orb against gumgod in round 3.
He posted about this mistake in the in game chat, right after the event ended.
1 - This is not the first time that you use cards that are not in your submited gatherling decklist.
2 - It's the first time that you play with the deck, you could not just copy-pasted your last version of the deck in gatherling and forget to edit it. Export the deck before the deck as .TXT avoids it, it does not make sense.
3 - You already have lost for AEFabricio in round 2 - which Propaganda was not shown. In the finals it appeared in G2 and G3. It was a really convenient addition.
You are the greatest heirloom player all time, but from now I have doubt if you reached it honestly...
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LOL, what is this *****..
1. really? tell me about the other time then.
2. I'm not talking about the last version in gatherling. In MTGO after making my deck I export it as a txt file then copy pasted it to gatherling.
3. I did have propaganda in R2 I just didn't draw it after all there is only 2 copies. You didn't see any aetherize as well didn't you.
tbh, I don't really care about punishment. But I hate being accused of cheating. Cheating for 3 extra credits? Lame.
Lordpipas said that already punished you before with a match loss when you used a card that was not listed on gatherling.
It's your word agains the facts, and you must agree that it is really convenient.
I was caught cheating I would also say that I do not care for punishment and that is ridiculous cheat for only 3 extra credits... It's the obvious reaction...
When is this happening cause I can't remember anything like this happening before? go confirm here pipas.
Yes, I agree it's convenient. Had a hunch this would happen when I see my decklist after the event is over. That's why I posted the correction on chat.
I don't care the punishment regarding of playing different list. But I DO care of you accusing me of cheating intentionally.
Pipas said it for me on Whatsapp, when he see it here he will confirm.
I belive in you, you are not cheating. If you have cheated intentionally, you would keep using arguments about how you are not wrong and just use non-emotive arguments. You are not lying, you just does not accept to be wronged for a thing that you did not. It's a typical behavior of a wronged person, however it's really easy to simulate by a computer.
Im in a publicado service now.
TLR will host today. Next week i will be online
Also wanted to bring something up for a shakeup after eternal masters maybe we should have a Vintage Heirloom one week :). would love to play things like sol ring and necropotence even if its only for a week.
Although given the fact that we restrict the use of cards like Swords to Plowshares, I'm not sure if this will actually happen.
well i'd think that something like dark ritual would still have to stay banned If we were able to do that format as a one off or even as a Once a month thing Would be cool.... unfortunately as lack of FOW would make dark ritual a turn 1 kill. but without moxen or lotus not much else would change other than cards like Library/Yawgmoth will/Yawgmoth bargain/wheel of fortune/vamp tutor/Mental mistep being allowed as 1x and some 4x's would be allowed opening up new stuff to build around.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Good news:
- Next week we will have the rotation. I have the prices.
- The sponsor will add all prizes next week. Sorry for the delay.
- I have internet connection again.
Bad news:
- No event today. I have not time and Yokai / TLR can host.
- I cant host any more. I have new responsability in my work. I am searching a new host for Heirloom events (Friday and Sunday). I will play regular but i cant host
Thanks to Yokai and TLR for his help!!
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Lordpipas
Thanks for the updates, glad to see you have internet again.
Checkout http://tinyurl.com/Chainsaw-S100 for all the details.