With the advent of Jace, we would have some impetus to run 1 Pulse in the main, maybe 1 more in the board. I'm thinking about Dreadbore as well but the sorcery speed is a bit of a bummer. Maybe the 4 bolts will be put to good use and be sufficient.
I think that we can fight Jace through a combination of BBE herself, Bolt, Maelstrom Pulse, Raging Ravine, and creatures with ETB effects that Jace won't want to bounce. If you really want to beat Jeskai and Jace, Thragtusk is always an option.
I think that we can fight Jace through a combination of BBE herself, Bolt, Maelstrom Pulse, Raging Ravine, and creatures with ETB effects that Jace won't want to bounce. If you really want to beat Jeskai and Jace, Thragtusk is always an option.
Mmhmm. And remember, we still have our FoW of the format - thoughtseize. My list will be something similar to...
Thundermaw Hellkite is a good option against jace as well, although 5 cmc is pretty high. Helps against Lingering Souls as well. Also hedging with changing a Terminate into a dreadbore will help. And playing 4 bolts again should be good too. Maybe playing with a single Treetop Village over a ravine.
All that being said, Jace is gonna be rough against us. Still happy with BBE though.
New to posting on this forum. I'm fairly new to BGx decks, I started playing Abzan last summer because I love what BGx decks do. I've always wanted to play Jund though, but Jund hasn't been great recently. But now with BBE unbanned, I am officially switching to Jund. I just bought all the red staples except for Blackcleave Cliffs, but now they're spiking and I can't find any on TCGplayer currently that are English and not foil.
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Mother of god Cliffs are $40??? I guess that between Jund and the Hollow One decks it makes sense. I was expecting some price flux after the Pro Tour but between that and the unbans we're really seeing some turbulence. We may soon live in a world where Cliffs is more expensive than Dark Confidant though.
Mother of god Cliffs are $40??? I guess that between Jund and the Hollow One decks it makes sense. I was expecting some price flux after the Pro Tour but between that and the unbans we're really seeing some turbulence. We may soon live in a world where Cliffs is more expensive than Dark Confidant though.
Don't forget Mardu Pyromancer! It's the reason I just bought a playset, before the jump (they were $24 CAD).
I believe the Allied Fastlands are on a fast track for a reprint (see what I did there!): their names prevent them from being printed in most sets, excepts sets based in Mirrodin... or Core sets. I believe there is a good chance will see them in this year's core set: they are the best lands to print to boost sales without "breaking" Standard.
Guys, just chill out! BBE is back, the queen sits once more on her throne but let's take a breath. First of all: for the begining it'll be a 4 off in the main deck, no questions asked. If you think about 3, just ask youself what card would replace the 4th and if that card did something for Jund in the recent past.
Second: bolt back at 4 gets us the reach we need against tron and other hard races.
Third: JTMS is back and it's not that bad as it seems. Between 4 bolts and 4 BBE, do you think you'll need the second maelstrom that bad? Or even the first? Sure, for the first few weeks it'll be everywhere but after that, the general hysteria will calm down.
BBE won't turn us in a tier 0 deck. In fact we don't even want this. It'll give us a fair chance in every match we play and that's the spirit of Magic!
Cheers and have fun!
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Let me introduce you in all glory to our newly crowned Queens of Jund, Bloodbraid Elf and Liliana Vess!!
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I heard this card combination is pretty good why not test it out?
How about your SB?
Modern
UWGB 4c Snow Control BGWU
DOnt know yet, honeslty this was just a saved list from my decklists here at mtgsalvation. I will experiment with it asap
Mmhmm. And remember, we still have our FoW of the format - thoughtseize. My list will be something similar to...
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Dark Confidant
3 Kitchen Finks
4 Bloobraid Elf
4 Liliana of the Veil
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Thoughtseize
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Terminate
2 Kolaghan's Command
1 Maelstrom Pulse
24 Land
May go to 25 land and 3 Liliana in consideration to the curve of the deck, but that'll be after some testing.
4x Blackcleave Cliffs
1x Blood Crypt
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Forest
2x Overgrown Tomb
3x Raging Ravine
1x Stomping Ground
2x Swamp
4x Verdant Catacombs
1x Wooded Foothills
Instant (11)
1x Abrupt Decay
2x Fatal Push
2x Kolaghan's Command
4x Lightning Bolt
2x Terminate
3x Bloodbraid Elf
4x Dark Confidant
2x Scavenging Ooze
4x Tarmogoyf
Sorcery (7)
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
1x Maelstrom Pulse
2x Thoughtseize
Planeswalker (5)
4x Liliana of the Veil
1x Liliana, the Last Hope
2x Ancient Grudge
1x Anger of the Gods
3x Collective Brutality
3x Fulminator Mage
2x Grafdigger's Cage
1x Kozilek's Return
1x Maelstrom Pulse
1x Surgical Extraction
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
I might be in the minority here but I think 3 BBE is probably the sweet spot, I guess only testing will tell. I'm basing this off of legacy Jund.
All that being said, Jace is gonna be rough against us. Still happy with BBE though.
4 inquisition of Kozilek
2 thoughtseize
4 lightning bolt
2 abrupt decay
2 terminate
3 Liliana of the veil
1 Liliana, the last hope
2 maelstrom pulse
2 Khologhan’s Command
Creatures 14
4 Dark confidant
4 tarmogoyf
2 scavenging ooze
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 blackfleave cliffs
4 verdant catacombs
2 wooded foothills
2 bloodstained mire
2 overgrown tomb
1 blood crypt
1 stomping ground
2 swamp
1 Forrest
1 urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
1 twilight mire
1 field of ruin
2 raging ravine
2 duress
2 collective brutality
2 ancient grudge
2 golgari charm
2 Rakdos charm
2 fulminator mage
2 kitchen finks
1 Liliana, the last hope
JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Don't forget Mardu Pyromancer! It's the reason I just bought a playset, before the jump (they were $24 CAD).
I believe the Allied Fastlands are on a fast track for a reprint (see what I did there!): their names prevent them from being printed in most sets, excepts sets based in Mirrodin... or Core sets. I believe there is a good chance will see them in this year's core set: they are the best lands to print to boost sales without "breaking" Standard.
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
Legacy
W Death & Taxes W
Second: bolt back at 4 gets us the reach we need against tron and other hard races.
Third: JTMS is back and it's not that bad as it seems. Between 4 bolts and 4 BBE, do you think you'll need the second maelstrom that bad? Or even the first? Sure, for the first few weeks it'll be everywhere but after that, the general hysteria will calm down.
BBE won't turn us in a tier 0 deck. In fact we don't even want this. It'll give us a fair chance in every match we play and that's the spirit of Magic!
Cheers and have fun!