In our meta so much red in plsy so like 2-3 rhino for life gain and to finish off games... Shunning Bob for life loss and making room for the flayers and rhino plus one main board anafenza... And a pair of blooming Marsh also to save life.
I think it would be awesome to create a deck that runs a bunch of 2 drops that are must kill creatures.
4 Bob, 4 goyf, 4 grim flayer, 3 sqooze and the rest of the deck is removal and Lilliana's. You can also mess around with combat tricks with disfigure, dismember
BG also allows you to run ghost quarter which really helps against Tron.
Anyone having success with BG rock?
Treetop village is also amazing. The 2 mana activation is very understated.
I think it would be awesome to create a deck that runs a bunch of 2 drops that are must kill creatures.
4 Bob, 4 goyf, 4 grim flayer, 3 sqooze and the rest of the deck is removal and Lilliana's. You can also mess around with combat tricks with disfigure, dismember
BG also allows you to run ghost quarter which really helps against Tron.
Anyone having success with BG rock?
Treetop village is also amazing. The 2 mana activation is very understated.
Missing out on path to exile and lingering souls is a killer. You also miss the sideboard options
I think it would be awesome to create a deck that runs a bunch of 2 drops that are must kill creatures.
4 Bob, 4 goyf, 4 grim flayer, 3 sqooze and the rest of the deck is removal and Lilliana's. You can also mess around with combat tricks with disfigure, dismember
BG also allows you to run ghost quarter which really helps against Tron.
Anyone having success with BG rock?
Treetop village is also amazing. The 2 mana activation is very understated.
Missing out on path to exile and lingering souls is a killer. You also miss the sideboard options
Path and lingering souls are very powerful but they dot really help in junks weak matchups such as Tron. Tron becomes a very easy matchup with ghost quarters in the main and surgical extraction and fulminator mage in the SB.
I'm playing rock since May with good results. For example last weekend in the RPTQ I did 5-1-1 but unfortunately I lost in the top8 so I'm not going to the PT
Sorry you didn't make it. Can you share your decklist?
I don't like it. For one, why on earth would you ever play just 3 Tarmogoyfs? I feel like Noble's not worth it without the Flayer, you're beginning to have a lot of bad top decks game 1 against any sort of grindy game
Just went 1-3, only beating Jund and losing to godly hands by infect, Death Shadow playing lingering souls to counteract my LOTV, and I somehow lost a super close game against UR Colonnade control deck
Sigh, I'll tell you what, every game with Abzan is a hard fought win, not sure why I did so incredibly terrible, but it was very discouraging.
I'm not even sure I remember the other sideboard cards, but it wasn't helping regardless
Gideon is pretty awesome
The 3 Nobles have been either great or detrimental, along with the artifacts to turn Flayer on. Disappointed how crappy I did, the deck has good results, I feel like it was me.
Has anyone thought about abzan tokens. Still paths, decays, and grindy core but with maybe 1 or 2 creatures with set of bitterblossom, adding lilies, Nissa voices of zenikar ,sorin and Gideons. No spectral procession but still anthams and zealous persecution. Idk.. feel that could be successful. You could run tasigur for value with a couple grim flyers... idk just wanna try it
What's your sideboard plan against Kiki-Chord and Abzan Company? What are you siding out? We cutting discard or cutting lilies? Or both? Thanks
I come from Abzan Company and it's a superior deck, but has been hated out too much around here due to Dredge and the sideboard folks bring in for that. When Dredge chills out or bans, I will be back on Company.
Last Hope is great against these decks. I carry 2x Grafdigger's Cage and Linvala (in an Hierarch package only) destroys Kiki-Chord. Scooze obviously pauses Abzan Company. Finally, due to our meta, I carry Celestial Purge sideboard as a 5th path.
Lingering souls is the best card in that deck, it'd be a mistake to remove any copies
Imho, Lingerings is not the best card in ours decks. For example, vs Tron, Ad Nauseam, Burn, Scapeshift... Are very poorly. So i think that 3 copies are right.
Sorry for me english
You ate letting specific matchups clog your rational behind card selection. At some point the Anzan player has to say 'Okay, I have answers for most of the things but now how do I win the game.' Which is where our agro/card adv cards fit in. Spsiegel is right on with his/her replies. Even cutting 1 soul, you might aswell play jund.
Lingering Souls is the best card you can have against Infect, Affinity, other BGx, and other opposing control decks. These decks are always a huge part of a competitive meta. If you are preparing for a specific meta and you don't see these decks, you obviously don't need 4 Lingering Souls and you can run some other 3-drop like Knight of the Reliquary or Voice of Resurgence.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/competitive-modern-constructed-league-2016-12-16
I think it would be awesome to create a deck that runs a bunch of 2 drops that are must kill creatures.
4 Bob, 4 goyf, 4 grim flayer, 3 sqooze and the rest of the deck is removal and Lilliana's. You can also mess around with combat tricks with disfigure, dismember
BG also allows you to run ghost quarter which really helps against Tron.
Anyone having success with BG rock?
Treetop village is also amazing. The 2 mana activation is very understated.
Missing out on path to exile and lingering souls is a killer. You also miss the sideboard options
Path and lingering souls are very powerful but they dot really help in junks weak matchups such as Tron. Tron becomes a very easy matchup with ghost quarters in the main and surgical extraction and fulminator mage in the SB.
Has anyone been playing a similar deck as this?
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/529071#online
Sorry you didn't make it. Can you share your decklist?
2x Siege Rhino
3x Dark Confidant
3x Tarmogoyf
3x Scavenging Ooze
3x Noble Hierarch
I don't like it. For one, why on earth would you ever play just 3 Tarmogoyfs? I feel like Noble's not worth it without the Flayer, you're beginning to have a lot of bad top decks game 1 against any sort of grindy game
Just went 1-3, only beating Jund and losing to godly hands by infect, Death Shadow playing lingering souls to counteract my LOTV, and I somehow lost a super close game against UR Colonnade control deck
Sigh, I'll tell you what, every game with Abzan is a hard fought win, not sure why I did so incredibly terrible, but it was very discouraging.
3x Noble Hierarch
4x Tarmogoyf
2x Scavenging Ooze
4x Grim Flayer
1x Anafenza, the foremost
Spells
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Thoughtseize
4x Path to Exile
2x Abrupt Decay
1x Murderous Cut
1x Collective Brutality
4x Lingering Souls
4x Liliana of the Veil
2x Mishra's Bauble
4x Blooming Marsh
3x Shambling Vent
1x Temple Garden
1x Godless Shrine
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Swamp
1x Forest
1x Plains
3x Windswept Heath
3x Marsh Flats
3x Verdant Catacombs
2x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1x Liliana, the Last Hope
2x Stony Silence
1x Damnation
1x Zealous Persecution
3x Fulminator Mage
1x Ravenous Trap
1x Nihil Spellbomb
1x Maelstrom Pulse
1x Engineered Explosives
I'm not even sure I remember the other sideboard cards, but it wasn't helping regardless
Gideon is pretty awesome
The 3 Nobles have been either great or detrimental, along with the artifacts to turn Flayer on. Disappointed how crappy I did, the deck has good results, I feel like it was me.
Tokens is too slow against most combo and big ramp decks. Check it out in the developing forums, but it's incredibly inferior
What's your sideboard plan against Kiki-Chord and Abzan Company? What are you siding out? We cutting discard or cutting lilies? Or both? Thanks
I come from Abzan Company and it's a superior deck, but has been hated out too much around here due to Dredge and the sideboard folks bring in for that. When Dredge chills out or bans, I will be back on Company.
Last Hope is great against these decks. I carry 2x Grafdigger's Cage and Linvala (in an Hierarch package only) destroys Kiki-Chord. Scooze obviously pauses Abzan Company. Finally, due to our meta, I carry Celestial Purge sideboard as a 5th path.