I've played well over 100 matches with this deck since picking it up last summer for Modern WCQ in Lincoln. Deck has gone through many changes since then, mainly the advent of Walking Ballista being the key to catapulting the deck to tier 1-1.5 status. The more reps you can get with it against the vastness that is the current Modern Meta is your biggest weapon, the deck has definitive answers to alot, it's the fringes that take play and reps. The deck is ever evolving with the meta and it's good to have a solid Tool Box Sideboard available IMO.
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Looks like we may be seeing more Death's Shadow Aggro/Jund as well. SB strategies for this???
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Believe it or not probably the best colorless answer to Death's Shadow outside Chalice is Ensnaring Bridge. It does lend itself to somewhat keeping us from attacking but in these scenarios we can fall back on Walking Ballista's and Endbringer's as a valid way of closing out the game. Also, with the Bridge in order to keep your hand size low still run out your creatures and drop an Ulamog or Karn when you get critical mass. Plus we already run a number of Relic of Progenitus which combats Goyfs and K-Command shenanigans.
I like that my ramp package seems to be a way to combat DS Aggro. (At least on the play turn one) Ensnaring Bridge is interesting. You could actually exile your own Ensnaring Bridge with Ulamog or Karn if needed as well. Very interesting. Good point Flip.
BASED, I'm with you. The summary dismissal the "pros" gave recently doesn't sit well with me. I may not be on their level of play overall but I'm damned sure I can play the deck better than them at this point.
Hydrogen, thanks for sharing and nice work there.
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Glad to see you running a Conduit of Ruin and 2 Ulamog. Curious about your Metamorph results. Can Metamorph ETB as a Chalice on zero, or would it die immediately as an 0/0 creature? Good luck.
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??? I don't think any mainstream builds are playing Mindslaver. The only deck that should play that card is mono blue Tron.
Speaking of mono blue tron, I managed to draw against it and then lose to G/R Tron round 2 today. When you're on the draw against Tron it feels so hopeless -_-. Even when I Ghost Quarter multiple times I still cant beat the deck and the crafty ones put Pithing Needle on Ghost Quarter anyways, anyone got any secret tech?
Just a quick thought, I'll put more effort into it later.
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Just a quick thought, I'll put more effort into it later.
Bridge is a very interesting card. I wonder if that could be a great way to win against Bant Eldrazi, too. You would be VERY reliant on Karn and Ugin, but you could really catch them off-guard with literally zero outs in their deck. Granted, you would need to stop any BoP from flying over with Exalted, but that's pretty narrow.
This variation of Tron is becoming the most popular among those that plays Tron in my area. Colorless Eldrazi Tron is quite good in not needing another color to go forward in being able to play. Are there any color varieties of Eldrazi Tron that has been doing well lately?
This variation of Tron is becoming the most popular among those that plays Tron in my area. Colorless Eldrazi Tron is quite good in not needing another color to go forward in being able to play. Are there any color varieties of Eldrazi Tron that has been doing well lately?
Bant Eldrazi is equally competitive.
Ageless: Those are also great options. I meant to add the caveat "not blanked by Displacer". Neither of those does much against a Displacer...
And yes Endbringer and Walking Ballista can fire through the Bridge.
Sometimes I wonder about Norn's Annex but it wouldn't be that good against any deck in white. And Death's Shadow may actually like the life loss.
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I couldn't remember the sb completely but i think its pretty close.
I want to try out conduit of ruin in the main to be able to tutor out Ulamog and reduce the cost of creatures in the deck. I feel as though casting a conduit over a Batterskull will probably present more pressure to a opponent. (Unless its burn haha)
Just a quick thought, I'll put more effort into it later.
Bridge is a very interesting card. I wonder if that could be a great way to win against Bant Eldrazi, too. You would be VERY reliant on Karn and Ugin, but you could really catch them off-guard with literally zero outs in their deck. Granted, you would need to stop any BoP from flying over with Exalted, but that's pretty narrow.
Considering that DS Jund plays K Command, Abrupt Decay and that Bant Eldrazi plays Engineered Explosives (plus Natural State out of the board) - yeah Bridge doesnt seem very good
Considering that DS Jund plays K Command, Abrupt Decay and that Bant Eldrazi plays Engineered Explosives (plus Natural State out of the board) - yeah Bridge doesnt seem very good
Depends on how many targets may be on the board. Map, Chalice, Ballista, Batterskull, Collar, Needle, Bomb, Relic, Trinisphere, Stone or Vault may have already eaten that artifact removal. What will an opponent pick with multiple targets or threats on the board? Its not awesome, but its not a bad choice either.
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Current Decks
Standard : WB Orzhov Vampires BW GUB Sultai Constrictor BUG
Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
Reps Reps Reps.
Looks like we may be seeing more Death's Shadow Aggro/Jund as well. SB strategies for this???
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Current Decks
Standard : WB Orzhov Vampires BW GUB Sultai Constrictor BUG
Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
I like that my ramp package seems to be a way to combat DS Aggro. (At least on the play turn one) Ensnaring Bridge is interesting. You could actually exile your own Ensnaring Bridge with Ulamog or Karn if needed as well. Very interesting. Good point Flip.
BASED, I'm with you. The summary dismissal the "pros" gave recently doesn't sit well with me. I may not be on their level of play overall but I'm damned sure I can play the deck better than them at this point.
Hydrogen, thanks for sharing and nice work there.
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Bant Eldrazi
UW Control
U Merfolk
Legacy
Merfolk
UR Delver
??? I don't think any mainstream builds are playing Mindslaver. The only deck that should play that card is mono blue Tron.
Speaking of mono blue tron, I managed to draw against it and then lose to G/R Tron round 2 today. When you're on the draw against Tron it feels so hopeless -_-. Even when I Ghost Quarter multiple times I still cant beat the deck and the crafty ones put Pithing Needle on Ghost Quarter anyways, anyone got any secret tech?
Bant Eldrazi
UW Control
U Merfolk
Legacy
Merfolk
UR Delver
Im interested to hear that the Tron matchup is difficult. Do you run 4x GQ and 4x Surgical? Crucible seems to slow?
Bant Eldrazi
UW Control
U Merfolk
Legacy
Merfolk
UR Delver
RG Titan Scapeshift GR
UBWAd Nauseam WBU
CEldrazi TronC
Off the top of my head.
3 Gemstone Cavern, 4 SSG to ramp a quick Chalice.
Oblivion Stone
Perilous Vault
Trinisphere
Ensnaring Bridge could be an option as well.
Just a quick thought, I'll put more effort into it later.
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Bridge is a very interesting card. I wonder if that could be a great way to win against Bant Eldrazi, too. You would be VERY reliant on Karn and Ugin, but you could really catch them off-guard with literally zero outs in their deck. Granted, you would need to stop any BoP from flying over with Exalted, but that's pretty narrow.
Bant Eldrazi is equally competitive.
Ageless: Those are also great options. I meant to add the caveat "not blanked by Displacer". Neither of those does much against a Displacer...
And yes Endbringer and Walking Ballista can fire through the Bridge.
Sometimes I wonder about Norn's Annex but it wouldn't be that good against any deck in white. And Death's Shadow may actually like the life loss.
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My list is
4x Eldrazi Temple
4x Ghost Quarter
1x Sea Gate Wreckage
4x Urza's Mine
4x Urza's Power Plant
4x Urza's Tower
2x Wastes
2x Dismember
1x Karn Liberated
2x Conduit of Ruin
3x Endbringer
4x Matter Reshaper
4x Reality Smasher
4x Thought-Knot Seer
1x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
4x Walking Ballista
4x Chalice of the Void
4x Expedition Map
1x All Is Dust
1x Batterskull
1x Dismember
2x Pithing Needle
2x Ratchet Bomb
3x Relic of Progenitus
1x Spatial Contortion
3x Surgical Extraction
I couldn't remember the sb completely but i think its pretty close.
I want to try out conduit of ruin in the main to be able to tutor out Ulamog and reduce the cost of creatures in the deck. I feel as though casting a conduit over a Batterskull will probably present more pressure to a opponent. (Unless its burn haha)
Whats peoples thoughts on this plan ?
Considering that DS Jund plays K Command, Abrupt Decay and that Bant Eldrazi plays Engineered Explosives (plus Natural State out of the board) - yeah Bridge doesnt seem very good
Bant Eldrazi
UW Control
U Merfolk
Legacy
Merfolk
UR Delver
Depends on how many targets may be on the board. Map, Chalice, Ballista, Batterskull, Collar, Needle, Bomb, Relic, Trinisphere, Stone or Vault may have already eaten that artifact removal. What will an opponent pick with multiple targets or threats on the board? Its not awesome, but its not a bad choice either.
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