pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
Which cards could I add in my sideboard to face all of that ?
Duress ? surgical extraction?
Duress and Thoughtseize are good to get important cards out of the opponent's hand. You can use Surgical Extraction to remove the cards from the game. Against Infect or Affinity Fatal Push could be used to kill some of their smaller creatures and can be Revolted to kill up to 4 CMC. Graveyard hate like Relic of Progenetus is good for the graveyard based decks in your meta.
Modern - Pyro Prison
Modern - GW Tron
Modern - Mono G Tron
Modern - RWg Burn
Commander - Yisan, The Wanderer Bard cEDH build
Commander - Edric, Spymaster of Trest - Budget/Casual list - complete
Commander - Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis - $35 Budget upgrade
Commander - Edgar Markov - $150 upgrade
To be honest it seems likely to be a transcription error. The card is hot garbage at best and doesn't even work with Trons plans. Otherwise it might be a pet card of whoever was running it.
I've been noticing more and more lately that the meta lately is majorly G/B/X based decks (i.e., Death's Shadow Jund, Abzan, real Jund, etc.). How has this deck been doing from the boost of these style of decks, particularly Death's Shadow style decks right now? Jund usually has a hard time against Tron on any front but I'm curious now, how does this deck combat against a deck that doesn't care about life total for the first part of the game and sweeps in for the kill pretty quickly.
I would say in the case of Death's Shadow and such, creatures that does not die that esily to pyroclasm and bolts, i think GW Tron is better. It just sucks the manabase is kinda *****ty compared to GR. Then again, GR can give the Death Shadow player life to make the death's shadow smaller.
I would say in the case of Death's Shadow and such, creatures that does not die that esily to pyroclasm and bolts, i think GW Tron is better. It just sucks the manabase is kinda *****ty compared to GR. Then again, GR can give the Death Shadow player life to make the death's shadow smaller.
You are right in that Grove of the Burnwillows does help Tron players against Death's Shadow style decks as of lately. I have been seeing that G/W Tron has been doing well against them, mainly because of the access to Path to Exile.
(In case that link doesn't work yet):
Indestructible
tap: Add {1} colorless to your mana pool.
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(In case that link doesn't work yet):
Indestructible
tap: Add {1} colorless to your mana pool.
5,tap: Add five mana in any combination of colors to your mana pool.
Doesn't look like something you would like to play in Tron. A colorless land that nearly does nothing isn't where you want to spend you utility land slots.
Remember to focus on the scenarios where the deck is weak (unassembled Tron) rather than the strong spots.
I think you'd do best with GB or GW, I'd pick GB based on first glance at that meta.
GW Tron is quite right now and I see it popping up more and more lately with the resurgence of Dredge and the most popular deck in Modern right now... Death's Shadow variants. Rest in Peace and Path to Exile for starters is while that deck does well with this heavily creature driven meta right now. GB Tron does have it's up sides with Fatal Push, Collective Brutality, Leyline of the Void, and other black spell hate does do that deck some good but can be dealt easier with. GR Tron is still the best version of Tron right now (aside from the scourge that Tron).
So we should be playing G/W instead if G/B? What about against an unknown meta game? Is having a 3rd Wurmcoil and an Emrakul seem like the best choice for creatures because of the extra chance of drawing Wurmcoil? Or would the traditional 2 Ulamog, 2 World Breaker, 2 Wurmcoil be ok?
So we should be playing G/W instead if G/B? What about against an unknown meta game? Is having a 3rd Wurmcoil and an Emrakul seem like the best choice for creatures because of the extra chance of drawing Wurmcoil? Or would the traditional 2 Ulamog, 2 World Breaker, 2 Wurmcoil be ok?
the problem is, Tron is really more of a meta call, in any version of any color combo. it's best to pick the flavor and configuration based on what you expect to see lots of. GB with Brutality is best against Burn, GW with Path and RiP is best against Dredge and the mirror. I think we have the options now for superfriends to be REALLY good, with a black heavy SB to deal with aggro, which is what I will be trying. but Tron isn't the deck to pick up against an unknown meta, in any form. it can be a primary deck in your local store, but against a blank map I would rather have Burn every time. Burn has very few games where it's a bye for the other guy.
Also guys, i heard about a UG deck with all the green and blue cantrips and the green/colorless tools to assemble Tron, using the new Nissa some counters and one Eldrazi. No Karn, no Ugin. Very radical, but very sturdy/consistent on paper. what do you think?
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the problem is, Tron is really more of a meta call, in any version of any color combo. it's best to pick the flavor and configuration based on what you expect to see lots of. GB with Brutality is best against Burn, GW with Path and RiP is best against Dredge and the mirror. I think we have the options now for superfriends to be REALLY good, with a black heavy SB to deal with aggro, which is what I will be trying. but Tron isn't the deck to pick up against an unknown meta, in any form. it can be a primary deck in your local store, but against a blank map I would rather have Burn every time. Burn has very few games where it's a bye for the other guy.
Also guys, i heard about a UG deck with all the green and blue cantrips and the green/colorless tools to assemble Tron, using the new Nissa some counters and one Eldrazi. No Karn, no Ugin. Very radical, but very sturdy/consistent on paper. what do you think?
An extremely good point in that Tron, more precisely the color variant of the build, is completely determined by the current meta as of now. Each variation is good against certain decks but no one Tron is the king of all variants. That being said, I feel that right now the Colorless build with the Eldrazi threat is the strongest right now against the meta as a whole. It does managed to combat against aggro decks and also against decks that needs certain pieces to win with combo. Give it some more time, the meta is really volatile right now and the new set coming out will shift the meta more and more now.
I have been playing G/W Tron for the past three weeks at my local LGS and I am just getting stomped every time. It seems that every deck I play against (Merfolk, Eldrazi Tron (played this specific deck three times in one night and lost every time), BW Tokens, Burn, Jund, Goryo's Vengeance) is just too fast for this deck or they just smash me with land hate and i'm drawing dead. Is it not a good time to play this deck or am I just having horrible luck? This is my current list https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/608555#paper. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Modern - Mono G Tron
Modern - RWg Burn
Commander - Yisan, The Wanderer Bard cEDH build
Commander - Edric, Spymaster of Trest - Budget/Casual list - complete
Commander - Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis - $35 Budget upgrade
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Which cards could I add in my sideboard to face all of that ?
Duress ? surgical extraction?
relic of progenitus is usually best.
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
Duress and Thoughtseize are good to get important cards out of the opponent's hand. You can use Surgical Extraction to remove the cards from the game. Against Infect or Affinity Fatal Push could be used to kill some of their smaller creatures and can be Revolted to kill up to 4 CMC. Graveyard hate like Relic of Progenetus is good for the graveyard based decks in your meta.
I've 4 collective brutality, and 3 fatals push right now.
Sounds like a good idea?
and VS Smallpox? Crucible of world or life from the loam? what's the best ?
ghost-lit nourisher
I imagine it's for the discard effect attached on a Wurmcoil Engine or World Breaker to close out the game.
Modern - GW Tron
Modern - Mono G Tron
Modern - RWg Burn
Commander - Yisan, The Wanderer Bard cEDH build
Commander - Edric, Spymaster of Trest - Budget/Casual list - complete
Commander - Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis - $35 Budget upgrade
Commander - Edgar Markov - $150 upgrade
To be honest it seems likely to be a transcription error. The card is hot garbage at best and doesn't even work with Trons plans. Otherwise it might be a pet card of whoever was running it.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
You are right in that Grove of the Burnwillows does help Tron players against Death's Shadow style decks as of lately. I have been seeing that G/W Tron has been doing well against them, mainly because of the access to Path to Exile.
Cascading Cataracts
(In case that link doesn't work yet):
Indestructible
tap: Add {1} colorless to your mana pool.
5,tap: Add five mana in any combination of colors to your mana pool.
Doesn't look like something you would like to play in Tron. A colorless land that nearly does nothing isn't where you want to spend you utility land slots.
Remember to focus on the scenarios where the deck is weak (unassembled Tron) rather than the strong spots.
GW plays best against graveyard strategies Rest in Peace, and also has powerful spot removal with Path to Exile. GB also has powerful spot removal with Fatal Push, and can hamper control & combo decks with Collective Brutality. GR handles weenie aggro decks well with Pyroclasm and Kozilek's Return.
I think you'd do best with GB or GW, I'd pick GB based on first glance at that meta.
GW Tron is quite right now and I see it popping up more and more lately with the resurgence of Dredge and the most popular deck in Modern right now... Death's Shadow variants. Rest in Peace and Path to Exile for starters is while that deck does well with this heavily creature driven meta right now. GB Tron does have it's up sides with Fatal Push, Collective Brutality, Leyline of the Void, and other black spell hate does do that deck some good but can be dealt easier with. GR Tron is still the best version of Tron right now (aside from the scourge that Tron).
the problem is, Tron is really more of a meta call, in any version of any color combo. it's best to pick the flavor and configuration based on what you expect to see lots of. GB with Brutality is best against Burn, GW with Path and RiP is best against Dredge and the mirror. I think we have the options now for superfriends to be REALLY good, with a black heavy SB to deal with aggro, which is what I will be trying. but Tron isn't the deck to pick up against an unknown meta, in any form. it can be a primary deck in your local store, but against a blank map I would rather have Burn every time. Burn has very few games where it's a bye for the other guy.
Also guys, i heard about a UG deck with all the green and blue cantrips and the green/colorless tools to assemble Tron, using the new Nissa some counters and one Eldrazi. No Karn, no Ugin. Very radical, but very sturdy/consistent on paper. what do you think?
An extremely good point in that Tron, more precisely the color variant of the build, is completely determined by the current meta as of now. Each variation is good against certain decks but no one Tron is the king of all variants. That being said, I feel that right now the Colorless build with the Eldrazi threat is the strongest right now against the meta as a whole. It does managed to combat against aggro decks and also against decks that needs certain pieces to win with combo. Give it some more time, the meta is really volatile right now and the new set coming out will shift the meta more and more now.
How does this SB look vs an unknown meta?
3 Surgical Extraction
3 Nature's Claim
2 Thragtusk
2 Warping Wail
1 Fatal Push (2 MB) (Replaced 2 Relic for 2 Fatal Pushes MB)
1 Grafdigger's Cage
3 Duress
Thanks
I have been playing G/W Tron for the past three weeks at my local LGS and I am just getting stomped every time. It seems that every deck I play against (Merfolk, Eldrazi Tron (played this specific deck three times in one night and lost every time), BW Tokens, Burn, Jund, Goryo's Vengeance) is just too fast for this deck or they just smash me with land hate and i'm drawing dead. Is it not a good time to play this deck or am I just having horrible luck? This is my current list https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/608555#paper. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Modern - GW Tron
Modern - Mono G Tron
Modern - RWg Burn
Commander - Yisan, The Wanderer Bard cEDH build
Commander - Edric, Spymaster of Trest - Budget/Casual list - complete
Commander - Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis - $35 Budget upgrade
Commander - Edgar Markov - $150 upgrade