Mardu colors, , give access to some of the best removal, disruption and threats in modern. This deck hinders opponents with targeted discard followed up with a strong suite of removal. We can close games out with Batterskull, Lavaclaw Reaches, or our planeswalkers.
I never liked Pack Rat in the BWR list unlike how good he is in the BW list. And I just don't know if the planeswalkers do enough in the current meta.
All this link did was make me want to include Grim Lavamancer and some number of Terminate or Dreadbore.
What specifically is your issue with Pack Rat? I'm not overly attached to him, but I have always been happy to draw him so unless you explain a bit I don't want to remove him entirely.
I agree that planeswalkers may not be the greatest in the current meta overall, but they are well suited against the decks played at my LGS.
Sounds interesting and would solve my problems. Cutting creatures would make room for wipes and Terminates. Now that I've tested a bit more I'd feel comfortable cutting rats.
Something like this maybe? Could you post your list?
EDIT: Hide // Seek might find its way into the main board as a two of. Seeking a Cruise against burn or delver is just too dang good, and hide handles blightsteel colossus and other problem artifact/enchantments.
I like Sorin... I feel like this is becoming superfriends... Who Cares!? Planeswalkers are awesome!!
I want to like Mardu Charm, but I feel like three mana is a bit intensive for what it gives you.
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What meta have you been playing this list against? It looks good, I just have some concerns about some of the matchups at my LGS. Having only IoK instead of Thoughtseize is scary since I face a lot of Bloom Titan and Tron, also has the downside of not catching Cruise/Dig. The latter two are less of a concern since Mardu Charm does get them mostly in time, but there is a good chance a Titan or Karn will be in play before I could Charm them away. Also wondering how the matchup is against Big Zoo, I have trouble with it with my Boros Midrange as I can control the ground early but then get overwhelmed by KotR/Goyf/Smiter if my draw is too durdly, which it frequently is and looks like this list is as well (though Night's Whisper helps some). I think that's why I am interested in Butcher of the Horde, he lets you durdle around and then take over the game quickly, vs. planeswalkers are a much more grindy victory.
This deck has a horrible matchup against Tron and can still lose even if you board heavily for the matchup. In the TCGPlayer videos for the deck, I think Frank Lepore fired off three Molten Rains and still got crushed by a Karn.
Edit: In fact I just noticed you commented on the guys thread. Sorry but this looks like you're straight up trying to steal that mans thunder.
It was not my intention to steal his thunder. I originally started this thread because I had 60+ cards and more to include And I was looking for advise on what to cut. After that problem was resolved, the thread became a Mardu Control Thread. I actually developed this version w/o his list, but I'll link his list in the OP nonetheless because it is so similar.
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Crackling doom is the nuts. I'm a pod player and shouldn't be hurt so much from it, but normally you feel safe by podding into siege rhinos and archangel of thune against red-based decks, but I faced 2 crackling dooms the other day and got completely demolished. It's probably not at its best in a control shell, but I do think a midrange or token based shell might utilize it very well in the main. I tested an aggressive build with bloodsoaked champion, dark confidant, singleton rabblemaster and butcher of the horde and of course lingering souls and it felt very strong. Obviously need lightning helix and ajani to mitigate all the lifeloss (butcher sometimes helps too). I also run a timely reinforcement main and another in the board. Only played a few games so will need more testing to see how strong it is, but won all games so far.Probably has too many bad matchups in the meta right now (I expect delver/burn to be hard), though zealous persecution can be incredible in the delver matchup, and if you get a butcher on the board the burn matchup should be beatable with the right sideboard configuration. If cruise gets banned or black gets some less painful or less vulnerable card draw than bob, I can definetly see Mardu becoming a big thing in modern.
I like Brimaz, King of Oreskos over Hero of Bladehold. I like tokens, but I haven't tried a Mardu token shell. I think there is a thread for Mardu tokens somewhere, I'll post it later if I find it. If you are going tokens I'd play the full four Lingering Souls and I would consider a singleton Assemble the Legion.
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4x Lightning Bolt
2x Slaughter Pact
4x Path to Exile
4x Lightning Helix
2x Volcanic Fallout
2x Terminate
Sorceries(9)
3x Lingering Souls
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Thoughtseize
1x Chandra Pyromaster
3x Liliana of the Veil
2x Ajani Vengeant
2x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Artifacts(1)
1x Batterskull
Lands(24)
1x Swamp
1x Mountain
2x Plains
4x Bloodstained Mire
4x Marsh Flats
1x Arid Mesa
3x Sacred Foundry
2x Godless Shrine
1x Blood Crypt
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2x Lavacalw Reaches
2x Tectonic Edge
Cards in consideration:
Young Pyromancer
Grim Lavamancer
Crackling Doom
Dismember
Anger of the Gods
Hide // Seek
RamboJesus had a similar list and you can Check out his Still a Better Love Story Than Twilight deck here.
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I never liked Pack Rat in the BWR list unlike how good he is in the BW list. And I just don't know if the planeswalkers do enough in the current meta.
All this link did was make me want to include Grim Lavamancer and some number of Terminate or Dreadbore.
What specifically is your issue with Pack Rat? I'm not overly attached to him, but I have always been happy to draw him so unless you explain a bit I don't want to remove him entirely.
I agree that planeswalkers may not be the greatest in the current meta overall, but they are well suited against the decks played at my LGS.
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4x Lightning Bolt
2x Slaughter Pact
4x Path to Exile
4x Lightning Helix
2x Volcanic Fallout
2x Terminate
Sorceries(9)
3x Lingering Souls
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Thoughtseize
1x Chandra Pyromaster
3x Liliana of the Veil
1x Ajani Vengeant
2x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Artifacts(1)
1x Batterskull
Lands(24)
1x Swamp
1x Mountain
2x Plains
4x Bloodstained Mire
4x Marsh Flats
1x Arid Mesa
3x Sacred Foundry
2x Godless Shrine
1x Blood Crypt
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2x Lavacalw Reaches
2x Tectonic Edge
Something like this maybe? Could you post your list?
EDIT: Hide // Seek might find its way into the main board as a two of. Seeking a Cruise against burn or delver is just too dang good, and hide handles blightsteel colossus and other problem artifact/enchantments.
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I want to like Mardu Charm, but I feel like three mana is a bit intensive for what it gives you.
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It was not my intention to steal his thunder. I originally started this thread because I had 60+ cards and more to include And I was looking for advise on what to cut. After that problem was resolved, the thread became a Mardu Control Thread. I actually developed this version w/o his list, but I'll link his list in the OP nonetheless because it is so similar.
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