MTG Salvation

Hello, everyone. I come today bearing a deck idea, or rather a card idea.

I personally like and would like to abuse the card Underworld Dreams. I think it could be easy to get to work if done properly. My initial idea was to basically throw it into a RWx stax deck. I would simply change some lands to RB or WB so I wouldn't be losing anything mana-wise and I'd throw in an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth for good measure. It was okay, but I figured I'd rather build around the card itself rather than throw it into something else.

At this point, I figured the best things to do would be to have my opponent (or both of us) draw a lot of extra cards. Parallel to that, what method would be best for keeping myself alive? I could either continue down black for kill and disruption, or add in protection. Since I like the annoyance that stax brings, I decided to pillow myself out. Here is a first draft of a list.


This is just one potential idea that could work for underworld Dreams. I would think that something else along the lines of hand disruption would also work, however to maximize the effect of it I would want us to draw often (obviously) so hand disruption didn't seem like the best idea.

What do you all think? Where would underworld Dreams fit in best? Do you have an idea for a shell that could break this card?

Reforge the Soul hits for 7 and does a kind of soft mill, just a thought.

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Reforge the Soul hits for 7 and does a kind of soft mill, just a thought.

I considered that, but splashing for just that card seemed irrelevant to me. That's why I put in Teferi's Puzzle Box so that I get a Reforge every turn. I can even up my opponent's hand count by a few if I have any Temple Bells out at the time.

No Fate Unraveler?

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If you are playing a bunch of 1-of's why not use Liliana Vess? She takes out any cards the opponents hold onto and can tutor for all your singletons.

When I'm playing 'walkers, I'd like them to be game enders. The discard doesn't do much for me since we're drawing a lot. The tutor may be helpful, but she also costs 5 which in testing has been slightly difficult to get to, surprisingly.

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No Fate Unraveler?

I would think creatures are easier to deal with than enchantments. Plus it also dies to my wraths if he's out. It's easier on the black, but I'd prefer longevity.

I think the problem is, Underworld Dreams is a pretty weak win condition when your opponent isn't drawing extra cards. I think you will probably be winning more games with your planeswalkers than with it.

Well, that's what the Mines, Bells, and the Puzzle Box is for. I tend to find at least a mine or two during tests which helps to burn opponents out two or three times as fast.

Another option I considered with this build is having Ghost Quarter and Crucible of Worlds so that I could take out their lands as well as stax'ing them, then I could clear the board and have walkers go in with little dudes (and Gideon himself) but I wasn't sure what to cut as it was a bit overflowing at that point.