Why Flagstones of Trokair...? Im new to the deck and don't understand...
I play 2 just incase I'm facing Death Cloud (The Rock) or something along those lines. It has helped once or twice in that match-up when I played w/ Soul Sisters.dec
Just tested the deck tonight. My results? RDW 3-0 Elves 2-0 Affinity 0-2
-------- another friend was sick, will test against Rock and Zoo soon --------
Overall, pretty good. One game against Affinity was a slaughter; the other game I would of had if I had been given another land sooner. It's definitely a tough-match up.
In one game against RDW, i was at 5 life when I double-Martyr of Sands to shoot up to 38 life (18 life from 1st Martyr, 15 life from 2nd Martyr).
Oh, and Leyline of Sanctity is the best card ever in that match-up.
I.love.this.deck.
Great fusion of beats, control, defense/life-gain. Plenty of comebacks too if you're getting beaten down!
_Batutinha_ 3-1'd another Modern Daily on Monday with Martyr Proc. The only change from his list that 3-1'd on 12/16 (link) is that he replaced the 4 Mana Tithe in the board with 4 Surgical Extraction.
With the bannings going into effect on MTGO today, it will be interesting to see what the new metagame looks like.
I´m playing this deck right now and it´s funny as hell. In my version I´m playing a couple of mentor of the meek (and thinking on putting more of them) because in this deck you can draw a lot (with both of them on the table i´ve reched 13 cards on hand ).
I´m thinking on playing hero of bladehold too (because i love this card) (I don´t know if putting the two soldiers when attacking triggers the mentors but if it does it would be awesome). Beside of the fact that i like the bladehold a lot, including them and mirrorweave you have another combo that finish any game (you can do lot od damage copying bladeholds or gain lot of life copying serra ascendant or even making all creatures martyr of sands )
Was playing Martyr Proc in MTGO in the tournament practice section. Beat a guy after he cast Emrakul in the game twice (once with through the breach and once hard casted). Any deck that can beat two Emrakuls is absolutely awesome!!!
Every list I have seen has had the Martyr Proc in it (of course) and the control aspect as well (DoJ, O-ring, Path, Ghostly Prison) but has had different creatures to fill out the rest of the list. Ive seen Student of Warfare , Figure of Destiny , Kitchen Finks , Hero of Bladehold. Which of these do you all feel is the best for the deck?
I´m playing this deck right now and it´s funny as hell. In my version I´m playing a couple of mentor of the meek (and thinking on putting more of them) because in this deck you can draw a lot (with both of them on the table i´ve reched 13 cards on hand ).
I´m thinking on playing hero of bladehold too (because i love this card) (I don´t know if putting the two soldiers when attacking triggers the mentors but if it does it would be awesome). Beside of the fact that i like the bladehold a lot, including them and mirrorweave you have another combo that finish any game (you can do lot od damage copying bladeholds or gain lot of life copying serra ascendant or even making all creatures martyr of sands )
What do you think??
Yep, you are correct, the tokens will trigger mentor of the meek, and you can pay the cost to draw a card. May be an option to consider .
Question I have though is why hasn't this deck considered playing something Aether vial. With Zoo possibly on the decline and the possibility of a control deck emerging, Being able to cheat stuff in can be a help.
^ Honestly I haven't had the desperation to spend mana to draw (Mentor of the Meek), or worry about throwing critters down for the cheap (Vial). I may try 1 Sun Titan, as I saw some MTGO lists were running it.
I've only played about a total of 10 games with the deck, but so far I haven't really been put into either situation where I was hoping that was the case. Doesn't hurt to playtest, but so far I really like what the typical decklist has been.
Guys, I want to experiment with splashing another color. The splash will be very minimal, taking about 4-6 cards from another color. I know that it's probably best not to splash and retain a more consistent mana base, but it's just an experiment I want to try.
Here's the question. If you could splash any one color for just 4-6 cards, which color would you splash for what cards?
Considering the next PTQ season is Modern, I've been looking into a deck to invest in... and this seems like the perfect blend of combo/control with a splash of aggro to be a very fun and interactive deck.
Does anyone have a current decklist that they've been using to good effect? Is a 1 of Felidar Sovereign used?
It kills. I recently -2 Oblivion Ring for +1 Weathered Wayfarer and +1 Sun Titan.
Give this list a shot
(a lot of other lists are similar; some run a few Kitchen Finks)
I thought it was right and the combination of mentor plus hero is ancestral recall every turn for 2 in modern. (mentor also help when you play any cheap dude making all ofyour critters itself + visionary elf )
I´m testing the deck against legacy ones and it´s really good.
I´m playing now 3 mentor of the meek + 3 hero of Bladehold and the are working really well.
I´ve tested against:
Burn: A joke, I won very easily.
Eldrazi ramp: Lose because although I usually reach 50 or more life Emrakul
anihilates mi board :(. very hard matches. post + tabernacle are .....
GB pernicious deck: I´ve raced marit lage in a game and a phyrexian crusader with a sword in the second. Lose only one game in which he had the GOD hand.
Zoo with punishing fire: easy. similar to burn but wraths hurt him a lot. He had punishing on line in one game but hero after wrath kiled him. If punishing were still legal i would include a singleton of heap doll to take care of it but with bannings, lucky
affinity: faster than zoo. played 4 games and won 2 of them. Anyways I think i could have won the other two.
So the deck worked really well against "superior" decks of legacy :P.
I´m thinking now on the sideboard and so. Any suggestions
No Serra Ascendant or Proclamation of Rebirth, but you still play Martyr of Sands? I can understand you have other resurrection (Titan/Emeria) so Proc can be excused, but the Ascendant is so sick...
Talk about risky!
Castigate and Arena are both good, but I'm not quite sure it's worth the splash. Any results?
I said it. Mentor is awesome in this deck. all your creatures make you draw and if you play bladehold too you´ll draw 3 cards per turn for only 2 mana. But even without hero you can draw for every hawk, warfare, martyr, ascendant, figure, wayfarer,..... you play. And even better, if you play proclamation and have enough mana you can recover 3 dudes and draw three extra cards.
The deck i´m testing works really well, but have some troubles against phyrexian crusader (only wraths take care of them) and playing against a friend with a black poison deck with this dudes i´m winning only half of the matches.
The problem is that I´m playing 5 wrath effect in my list and playing more could hurt the deck conistency because when opponent play crusader y must response with wrath. Sometimes he did first turn:mana-> ritual-> crusader so when i reach the 4th land i´m dead.
Mouth of ronom and effigy has the same problem (high cost to activate) and altough i´m playing snow lands (yo guessed it ) I find the same problem than wrath effects: high cost.
I thought on including mirran crusader to try to be faster than him but there isn´t white ritual so sometimes the knight is not enough (beside of the fact that his list is GB and plays gatekeepers, phyrexians, pernicious ded and so).
Anyways lot of thanks for your answer, but i´ll keep thinking how to solve the problem.
I´ve seen that people play mana tithe on SDB and even sun titan (which I think is very expensive to cast). How are they working for you?? Are there neccessary.
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I play 2 just incase I'm facing Death Cloud (The Rock) or something along those lines. It has helped once or twice in that match-up when I played w/ Soul Sisters.dec
Just tested the deck tonight. My results?
RDW 3-0
Elves 2-0
Affinity 0-2
-------- another friend was sick, will test against Rock and Zoo soon --------
Overall, pretty good. One game against Affinity was a slaughter; the other game I would of had if I had been given another land sooner. It's definitely a tough-match up.
Otherwise, the deck seems to have an answer for everything. Ranger of Eos changes everything. Wrath of God and Ghostly Prison are always there when I need it, and Proclamation of Rebirth is a complete game-changer. It doesn't matter WHAT you grab:
2 Serra Ascendant
1 Figure of Destiny and 1 Student of Warfare
1 Martyr of Sands and 1 Serra Ascendant (even better if you 2 Martyr, and have Ascendant in hand!)
In one game against RDW, i was at 5 life when I double-Martyr of Sands to shoot up to 38 life (18 life from 1st Martyr, 15 life from 2nd Martyr).
Oh, and Leyline of Sanctity is the best card ever in that match-up.
I.love.this.deck.
Great fusion of beats, control, defense/life-gain. Plenty of comebacks too if you're getting beaten down!
My sideboard
3 Nevermore
3 Kataki, War's Wage
3 Oblivion Ring
2 Rule of Law
1 Wrath of God
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Legacy love.
With the bannings going into effect on MTGO today, it will be interesting to see what the new metagame looks like.
You can target it with your ghost quarters to fetch a mistveil plains.
Yes, but that can't be the main reason because you can also just fetch a Mistveil Plains using Arid Mesa or Marsh Flats.
BRG Loam Control (Assault - Loam) BRG
W Mono White Control (Martyr - Proc) W
I´m thinking on playing hero of bladehold too (because i love this card) (I don´t know if putting the two soldiers when attacking triggers the mentors but if it does it would be awesome). Beside of the fact that i like the bladehold a lot, including them and mirrorweave you have another combo that finish any game (you can do lot od damage copying bladeholds or gain lot of life copying serra ascendant or even making all creatures martyr of sands )
What do you think??
Yep, you are correct, the tokens will trigger mentor of the meek, and you can pay the cost to draw a card. May be an option to consider .
Question I have though is why hasn't this deck considered playing something Aether vial. With Zoo possibly on the decline and the possibility of a control deck emerging, Being able to cheat stuff in can be a help.
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I've only played about a total of 10 games with the deck, but so far I haven't really been put into either situation where I was hoping that was the case. Doesn't hurt to playtest, but so far I really like what the typical decklist has been.
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Legacy love.
Here's the question. If you could splash any one color for just 4-6 cards, which color would you splash for what cards?
I'm thinking about splashing black for 4x Phyrexian Arena.
BRG Loam Control (Assault - Loam) BRG
W Mono White Control (Martyr - Proc) W
I think Kami of false hope is better since it prevents combat damage.
Does anyone have a current decklist that they've been using to good effect? Is a 1 of Felidar Sovereign used?
Vorel of the Hull Clade
Reki, the History of Kamigawa (MTGO)
Lavinia of the Tenth (MTGO)
2 Flagstones of Trokair
2 Mistveil Plains
4 Arid Mesa
12 Plains
4 Martyr of Sands
4 Serra Ascendant
4 Squadron Hawk
4 Ranger of Eos
2 Student of Warfare
2 Figure of Destiny
1 Weathered Wayfarer
1 Sun Titan
4 Ghostly Prison
4 Proclamation of Rebirth
3 Wrath of God
3 Path to Exile
It kills. I recently -2 Oblivion Ring for +1 Weathered Wayfarer and +1 Sun Titan.
Give this list a shot
(a lot of other lists are similar; some run a few Kitchen Finks)
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Legacy love.
:symwr:BorosBGR Living End(Primer) W Soul Sisters Tokens
UGrand Architect+Pili-Pala Infinite combo:symq::chaos:
I thought it was right and the combination of mentor plus hero is ancestral recall every turn for 2 in modern. (mentor also help when you play any cheap dude making all ofyour critters itself + visionary elf )
I´m testing the deck against legacy ones and it´s really good.
I´m playing now 3 mentor of the meek + 3 hero of Bladehold and the are working really well.
I´ve tested against:
Burn: A joke, I won very easily.
Eldrazi ramp: Lose because although I usually reach 50 or more life Emrakul
anihilates mi board :(. very hard matches. post + tabernacle are .....
GB pernicious deck: I´ve raced marit lage in a game and a phyrexian crusader with a sword in the second. Lose only one game in which he had the GOD hand.
Zoo with punishing fire: easy. similar to burn but wraths hurt him a lot. He had punishing on line in one game but hero after wrath kiled him. If punishing were still legal i would include a singleton of heap doll to take care of it but with bannings, lucky
affinity: faster than zoo. played 4 games and won 2 of them. Anyways I think i could have won the other two.
So the deck worked really well against "superior" decks of legacy :P.
I´m thinking now on the sideboard and so. Any suggestions
No Serra Ascendant or Proclamation of Rebirth, but you still play Martyr of Sands? I can understand you have other resurrection (Titan/Emeria) so Proc can be excused, but the Ascendant is so sick...
Talk about risky!
Castigate and Arena are both good, but I'm not quite sure it's worth the splash. Any results?
ex-Moderator
Legacy love.
The deck i´m testing works really well, but have some troubles against phyrexian crusader (only wraths take care of them) and playing against a friend with a black poison deck with this dudes i´m winning only half of the matches.
Any suggestion?
Mouth of ronom and effigy has the same problem (high cost to activate) and altough i´m playing snow lands (yo guessed it ) I find the same problem than wrath effects: high cost.
I thought on including mirran crusader to try to be faster than him but there isn´t white ritual so sometimes the knight is not enough (beside of the fact that his list is GB and plays gatekeepers, phyrexians, pernicious ded and so).
Anyways lot of thanks for your answer, but i´ll keep thinking how to solve the problem.
I´ve seen that people play mana tithe on SDB and even sun titan (which I think is very expensive to cast). How are they working for you?? Are there neccessary.