Thanks ghost empire. Just found out that link isn't accessible in the mobile view. Found it when I switched to desktop view. I will also check out your twitch. I am also a u tron player!
As someone who is playing Naya Kiki-Chord (with a small black spash) what could I have in my sideboard to hedge against this deck? I already play a couple Fulminator Mages and a couple Spellskites in the 75.
Also, if I play 2 Slaughter Games in the sideboard, are these good here? What do I name, just always scapeshift and if I get a second Titan?
Just started playing chord recently but I have a local player at my shop on RG Scapeshift who frequently wins, haven't played him yet but curious how to approach this matchup as it looks difficult for the chord deck.
The Kiki-Chord deck doesn't match up well against it because you spend a few turns just doing nothing. Fulminator Mage and something like Worship should buy you a few turns as Baloths and Angers are probably only sided in. Incidental lifegain from Finks, Thragtusk, Lone Missionary could be fine but just adds a turn to the clock. Sin Collector could be good if you have black for Pontiff (some early versions of the deck did this, not sure if it still does).
Then there are of course general answers like Crumble to Dust, Blood Moon/Magus of the Moon, and Leyline. I imagine Crumble will be part of your SB if Tron picks back up post-ban.
As someone who is playing Naya Kiki-Chord (with a small black spash) what could I have in my sideboard to hedge against this deck? I already play a couple Fulminator Mages and a couple Spellskites in the 75.
Also, if I play 2 Slaughter Games in the sideboard, are these good here? What do I name, just always scapeshift and if I get a second Titan?
Just started playing chord recently but I have a local player at my shop on RG Scapeshift who frequently wins, haven't played him yet but curious how to approach this matchup as it looks difficult for the chord deck.
The past 2 tournament I've played in I've gone 4-1 and 3-1. I'm convinced that Prismatic Omen is a must-have card in the 60. 2 seems to be the sweet number of these to have. I can't tell you how many times this card has saved my life.
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The past 2 tournament I've played in I've gone 4-1 and 3-1. I'm convinced that Prismatic Omen is a must-have card in the 60. 2 seems to be the sweet number of these to have. I can't tell you how many times this card has saved my life.
I am not going to argue with you friend.
I played sloppy as all hell and got carried by that card - went 5-0 on a Modern League online tonight.
I'll do a small write-up, decklist, and upload the vids to Youtube later!
The past 2 tournament I've played in I've gone 4-1 and 3-1. I'm convinced that Prismatic Omen is a must-have card in the 60. 2 seems to be the sweet number of these to have. I can't tell you how many times this card has saved my life.
I am not going to argue with you friend.
I played sloppy as all hell and got carried by that card - went 5-0 on a Modern League online tonight.
I'll do a small write-up, decklist, and upload the vids to Youtube later!
Awesome
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I got back into Modern around the end of February, was playing Living End forever till' I recently built R/G Tron and Scapeshift.
Shapeshift became my new favorite deck and I've been playing it for about 4-5 days?
I have no idea what Soul Sisters plays, although I am familiar with the "bigger" shares of the metagame.
Played a few more events today online:
5-0
1-4 (Shame!)
4-1
3-2
4-1
Ran into LOTS of Merfolk and Abzan Company - beat ALL of them except for the last Abzan Company. I literally had about 20 outs (any land or Anger) but got stranded with 3 Scapeshifts in hand.
Also ran into lots of R/G Tron surprisingly - they were the equivalent of free wins for me.
Played today with the exact same list as yours, just one more Windswelpt Heath instead of a Misty Rainforest.
This was the first time I played with the deck, I've played before with the BtL version, and it didn't end up well.
But this version is simply amazing! Went 4-0, all wins 2-0 and all games on the draw. The ramp is perfect, and better than the RUG version, Khalni Heart Expedtion allows you to combo "instant", I really liked it.
Most difficult match up, I guess it's Griselshoal. In game 1 he combo'd after an Titan and failed. The second game, he went to low on life and when he used the Griselbrand ability, I could sacrifice a Khalni Heart, put him to 2 life, then Bolt, he responded with a Shoal and then I show him another Bolt.
Said that, what are the bad MU for the deck, I guess combo it's one of, and what do you think about Grixis Delver and Abzan Company?
I definitively will play this deck over and over again!
Played today with the exact same list as yours, just one more Windswelpt Heath instead of a Misty Rainforest.
This was the first time I played with the deck, I've played before with the BtL version, and it didn't end up well.
But this version is simply amazing! Went 4-0, all wins 2-0 and all games on the draw. The ramp is perfect, and better the the RUG version, Khalni Heart Expedtion allows you to combo "instant", I really liked it.
Most difficult match up, I guess it's Griselshoal. In game 1 he combo'd after an Titan and failed. The second game, he went to low on life and when he used the Griselbrand ability, I could sacrifice a Khalni Heart, put him to 2 life, then Bolt, he responded with a Shoal and then I show him another Bolt.
Said that, what are the bad MU for the deck, I guess combo it's one of, and what do you think about Grixis Delver and Abzan Company?
I definitional will play this deck over and over again!
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Ha, any green fetch beyond the 4 Wooded Foothills is A-Okay! Mistys are expensive yo (except online).
I have never tried the BtL version, but I am still curious as to how it plays out honestly. Having perspective from both sides is definitely useful, with that being said at least you found what you like right?
The last time I actually played Scapeshift was when Modern was first brought up as a format, lol.
I would have to agree Grisshoalbrand is a tough one, there's not much you can do especially if they go off early.
Yesterday I did have the pleasure of beating one with a Sakura-Tribe Elder and 2 Bolts when he was at 7
I've only lost to Abzan Company once honestly, I guess maining the 2 Angers has been huge for me.
Personally speaking from my testing:
Grisshoalbrand can be tough.
Burn seems pretty tough, they present a really quick clock. Most of my wins against them involve Prismatic Omens.
Living CAN be tough, but they have very little interaction with you.
Affinity can be tough because sometimes they just puke their hand and don't care about what you're doing.
Storm seems like it can be pretty tough, we have very minimal interaction with them, but I've gotten lucky and beaten them recently.
Eldrazi is hit or miss, I think the match-up is fine as long as they don't open the "nuts", which is a pretty general term, but that deck won't live very long.
I've never lost to Merfolk, only lost once to Abzan Company as mentioned before, only lost once to a UW Control deck.
Losing to a BGx (Jund or Abzan) is also very rare for me.
Based on 3-4 days of testing here are some results I've had with that same exact list you referenced:
MTGO League Record: 5-0, 4-1, 1-4 (lol), 3-2, 4-1, 4-1
MTGO PPTQ: 3-2 (almost went 4-1, but I kept a loose hand G3 against Infect)
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Just for my personal enjoyment I've also tested this list out the last day in 2 events: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/392501#online
MTGO League Records: 3-2, 5-0 (this was just a few minutes before posting this response actually)
EDIT: Add another 4-1 for this decklist.
The biggest thing I'd like to comment on is Farseek vs. Khalni between both my list and this one, in this event Farseek has proven to be extremely powerful.
Sometimes I just needed that extra land and was to combo off out of nowhere which was great.
Chalice of the Void was instrumental in dismantling Boggles and Living End in the last MTGO League I entered.
However, I wasn't used to the sideboard, so sometimes it felt like I had an adequate vs. having an awkward amount of resources (partially due to the fact that I am VERY used to the original list I posted; I played over 50 matches with it in a week).
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I'm no expert with this deck, as of today I've only played it for a week, but I play with it A LOT online. Each mistake that I've made has taught me a valuable lesson.
I'm actually looking forward to taking this deck to Grand Prix Los Angeles, but it also depends on where the format will takes us after the ban list.
Hopefully not another "Dark Ages".
Didn't quote here because it would be a big one haha.
Regarding the Khalni x Farseek discussion. What's the arguments of each side? To me, Khalni was essential in the matches I played it. Gives you a lot of answers when you have the combo estabilished on the table, and can ramp you "instant" speed. While Farseek is a sorcery ramp, and that's it.
I did like the SB of this list though, the Chalice can be good in a lot of MU, since you can lock you opponent, (and you sometimes, like a Chalice for 2) but we have the time advantage, a great lock can be a win for us.
What about the land count? It feels to me that 27 is the right number. Didn't have any problems with mana yet (Even playing just a few time with the deck). It mulligans very well too IMO.
I got a doubt about comboing with Omen in play. We need just 6 lands right? We can get like 4 Valakuts and 2 Moutains (or any other land) and just shot our opponent for 72? Is this correct? Hehe.
So how do we win the mirror match? i have had this issue before when i am playing the mirror, it feels like we are playing two different games. and all that matters is who scapeshifts first.
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Also, if I play 2 Slaughter Games in the sideboard, are these good here? What do I name, just always scapeshift and if I get a second Titan?
Just started playing chord recently but I have a local player at my shop on RG Scapeshift who frequently wins, haven't played him yet but curious how to approach this matchup as it looks difficult for the chord deck.
Thanks in advance!
Then there are of course general answers like Crumble to Dust, Blood Moon/Magus of the Moon, and Leyline. I imagine Crumble will be part of your SB if Tron picks back up post-ban.
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UGWRB Humans
G Mono-Green Tron
UWBR Ad Nauseam
I played sloppy as all hell and got carried by that card - went 5-0 on a Modern League online tonight.
I'll do a small write-up, decklist, and upload the vids to Youtube later!
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Modern
UGWRB Humans
G Mono-Green Tron
UWBR Ad Nauseam
4 Scapeshift
4 Primeval Titan
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Search for Tomorrow
4 Khalni Heart Expedition
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Explore
2 Anger of the Gods
2 Prismatic Omen
2 Summoner's Pact
2 Windswept Heath
1 Misty Rainforest
2 Stomping Ground
3 Cinder Glade
4 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
7 Mountain
4 Forest
1 Shatterstorm
1 Crumble to Dust
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Inferno Titan
2 Nature's Claim
2 Obstinate Baloth
1 Anger of the Gods
2 Sudden Shock
2 Spellskite
Beat Abzan Company, Elves, Esper Eldrazi, Grixis Control, Affinity.
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I watch your videos, some missplay with the summoner's pact^^
Versus Soul Sisters you side in nature's claim but Soul Sisters don't play leyline of sanctity
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Thanks for checking the stuff out, haha.
I got back into Modern around the end of February, was playing Living End forever till' I recently built R/G Tron and Scapeshift.
Shapeshift became my new favorite deck and I've been playing it for about 4-5 days?
I have no idea what Soul Sisters plays, although I am familiar with the "bigger" shares of the metagame.
Played a few more events today online:
5-0
1-4 (Shame!)
4-1
3-2
4-1
Ran into LOTS of Merfolk and Abzan Company - beat ALL of them except for the last Abzan Company. I literally had about 20 outs (any land or Anger) but got stranded with 3 Scapeshifts in hand.
Also ran into lots of R/G Tron surprisingly - they were the equivalent of free wins for me.
I haven't adjusted the list yet.
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0-2 VS elves (mull but don't view any hate...)
1-2 VS UWr Control
Bye
0-2 VS UB Faerie control
1-2 VS Infect
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I cut the singleton Crumble to Dust in my board for another Sudden Shock.
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I'm still packing Engineered Explosives in the side. There's way too much upside for us not to play it IMO.
Played today with the exact same list as yours, just one more Windswelpt Heath instead of a Misty Rainforest.
This was the first time I played with the deck, I've played before with the BtL version, and it didn't end up well.
But this version is simply amazing! Went 4-0, all wins 2-0 and all games on the draw. The ramp is perfect, and better than the RUG version, Khalni Heart Expedtion allows you to combo "instant", I really liked it.
My MU was:
2-0 UW Control
2-0 Griselshoal
2-0 Monogreen Stompy
2-0 Death's Shadow Aggro
Most difficult match up, I guess it's Griselshoal. In game 1 he combo'd after an Titan and failed. The second game, he went to low on life and when he used the Griselbrand ability, I could sacrifice a Khalni Heart, put him to 2 life, then Bolt, he responded with a Shoal and then I show him another Bolt.
Said that, what are the bad MU for the deck, I guess combo it's one of, and what do you think about Grixis Delver and Abzan Company?
I definitively will play this deck over and over again!
Ha, any green fetch beyond the 4 Wooded Foothills is A-Okay! Mistys are expensive yo (except online).
I have never tried the BtL version, but I am still curious as to how it plays out honestly. Having perspective from both sides is definitely useful, with that being said at least you found what you like right?
The last time I actually played Scapeshift was when Modern was first brought up as a format, lol.
I would have to agree Grisshoalbrand is a tough one, there's not much you can do especially if they go off early.
Yesterday I did have the pleasure of beating one with a Sakura-Tribe Elder and 2 Bolts when he was at 7
I've only lost to Abzan Company once honestly, I guess maining the 2 Angers has been huge for me.
Personally speaking from my testing:
Grisshoalbrand can be tough.
Burn seems pretty tough, they present a really quick clock. Most of my wins against them involve Prismatic Omens.
Living CAN be tough, but they have very little interaction with you.
Affinity can be tough because sometimes they just puke their hand and don't care about what you're doing.
Storm seems like it can be pretty tough, we have very minimal interaction with them, but I've gotten lucky and beaten them recently.
Eldrazi is hit or miss, I think the match-up is fine as long as they don't open the "nuts", which is a pretty general term, but that deck won't live very long.
I've never lost to Merfolk, only lost once to Abzan Company as mentioned before, only lost once to a UW Control deck.
Losing to a BGx (Jund or Abzan) is also very rare for me.
Based on 3-4 days of testing here are some results I've had with that same exact list you referenced:
MTGO League Record: 5-0, 4-1, 1-4 (lol), 3-2, 4-1, 4-1
MTGO PPTQ: 3-2 (almost went 4-1, but I kept a loose hand G3 against Infect)
____________________________________________________________________________
Just for my personal enjoyment I've also tested this list out the last day in 2 events:
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/392501#online
MTGO League Records: 3-2, 5-0 (this was just a few minutes before posting this response actually)
EDIT: Add another 4-1 for this decklist.
The biggest thing I'd like to comment on is Farseek vs. Khalni between both my list and this one, in this event Farseek has proven to be extremely powerful.
Sometimes I just needed that extra land and was to combo off out of nowhere which was great.
Chalice of the Void was instrumental in dismantling Boggles and Living End in the last MTGO League I entered.
However, I wasn't used to the sideboard, so sometimes it felt like I had an adequate vs. having an awkward amount of resources (partially due to the fact that I am VERY used to the original list I posted; I played over 50 matches with it in a week).
____________________________________________________________________________
If you guys have any more questions, comments, or anything regarding either list just feel free to quote any of the posts that I've made on this thread so that I'll get a notification.
I'm no expert with this deck, as of today I've only played it for a week, but I play with it A LOT online. Each mistake that I've made has taught me a valuable lesson.
I'm actually looking forward to taking this deck to Grand Prix Los Angeles, but it also depends on where the format will takes us after the ban list.
Hopefully not another "Dark Ages".
Cheers.
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No prob bud! Glad you found some useful resources.
I actually have not tested that out yet, but I see what you mean.
What would you cut from my list to squeeze it in?
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Regarding the Khalni x Farseek discussion. What's the arguments of each side? To me, Khalni was essential in the matches I played it. Gives you a lot of answers when you have the combo estabilished on the table, and can ramp you "instant" speed. While Farseek is a sorcery ramp, and that's it.
I did like the SB of this list though, the Chalice can be good in a lot of MU, since you can lock you opponent, (and you sometimes, like a Chalice for 2) but we have the time advantage, a great lock can be a win for us.
What about the land count? It feels to me that 27 is the right number. Didn't have any problems with mana yet (Even playing just a few time with the deck). It mulligans very well too IMO.
I got a doubt about comboing with Omen in play. We need just 6 lands right? We can get like 4 Valakuts and 2 Moutains (or any other land) and just shot our opponent for 72? Is this correct? Hehe.
Top 4 list from SCG : http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=19955&iddeck=151992
RG Titan Scapeshift GR
UBWAd Nauseam WBU
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