against affinity, bring in Languish/damnation, stony silence, creeping corrosion, golgari charm, engineered explosives, fulminator is okay, pithing needle, disfigure, ect. A lot of people board out discard to make room for these, but personally I always find turn 1 or 2 thoughtseize/inquisition to be a problem (as affinity player). see if you can cut some creatures first.
i want to board in 2 damnation for affinity matchup. what's better to take out? tasigur or siege rhino? I was thinking of scavenging ooze but I thought it will be a better curve to take out tasigur or siege rhino. can we reliably cast tasigur and his ability? is life gain relavent from siege rhino?
I am still running a one of Darkblast in the sideboard over Disfigure. Is this a fine substitute? What 2 toughness creatures you want Disfigure to hit that Darkblast can't? Its proven its worth against Affinity and Infect since you can just mow down their early game.
I am still running a one of Darkblast in the sideboard over Disfigure. Is this a fine substitute? What 2 toughness creatures you want Disfigure to hit that Darkblast can't? Its proven its worth against Affinity and Infect since you can just mow down their early game.
I've run Darkblast in the MB/SB for awhile as well and the main thing you miss is Kiki-Jiki, Goblin Guide, Wild Natal and Eidolon of the Great Revel. Though for everything but Kiki-Jiki (assuming you're dead) you can do the upkeep trick to kill them but it feels bad. I still find Darkblast to be better than Disfigure to stop multiple mana dorks, tokens and infect/affinity.
I am still running a one of Darkblast in the sideboard over Disfigure. Is this a fine substitute? What 2 toughness creatures you want Disfigure to hit that Darkblast can't? Its proven its worth against Affinity and Infect since you can just mow down their early game.
I've run Darkblast in the MB/SB for awhile as well and the main thing you miss is Kiki-Jiki, Goblin Guide, Wild Natal and Eidolon of the Great Revel. Though for everything but Kiki-Jiki (assuming you're dead) you can do the upkeep trick to kill them but it feels bad. I still find Darkblast to be better than Disfigure to stop multiple mana dorks, tokens and infect/affinity.
Oh right I forgot about those, thanks. My meta has been infested with Affinity and to a lesser extent Infect that I forgot about Guide and Kiki as targets. I guess there's no point of switching since my meta is skewed towards Affinity.
can we update the match up list? I would like to know if they are favourable for us for unfavourable. mostly for merfolk, death and taxes, zoo.
I've been meaning to do this for a while, as well as get a bunch of other updates made but have just been really busy with end of school year stuff. I'll try to get some updates made either tomorrow night or saturday (probably saturday night).
Also, I've been playing jund more than junk lately which is why I haven't really made too many updates in a while, but may be swinging back into white again with tec-edge being a lot more viable than in recent modern meta.
Agree with most of these, but merfolk is probably closer to even. Burn is still generally slightly unfavorable as well. Most of these will be closer to even. Also, builds have to be taken into consideration as well, because matchups like scapeshift are a lot better with things like knight of the reliquary, or if you're more aggro and less control. For the record, I am only using unfavorable, slightly unfavorable, even, slightly favorable, and favorable. There's not much to be gained by adding "very" to any of them. Truth is, this deck doesn't have any actual very favorable or unfavorable match ups. Very unfavorable matchups would be like soul sisters vs. burn. This deck doesn't really have any match ups like that...even tron, because at the end of the day, if a tron player fumbles or if we have great hands with all of our hate, they'll still lose.
This setup is better. I use 2 Wildwood, 1 vent and 1 mire as well.
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UUU Merfolk UUU "Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR "The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
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I'm building up cards for this deck (preparing to take the plunge and get goyfs) and I've run into a problem; a good 40 percent of the people at my local store play Kiki chord, which this deck has some problems with in my experience. They are just absurdly good at grinding me out. I'm miles away from affording the switch to Jund, so in the meanwhile, what are some good card choices to help even out my chord matchup?
I've been playing the deck for two weeks at some minor tournaments with really good results, but I'm still a bit unsure about the manland configuration. Most lists run 1 Hissing Quagmire, 1 Stirring Wildwood and 2 Shambling Vent, but almost every match I find myself wishing that those Vents were Stirring Wildwoods (they attack/block better, don't die to bolt). Maybe running 2 Wildwoods and 1 Vent might be considered, or am I wrong?
I dont think you should base your deckbuilding around the creature stats, but rather, the colors the manlands provide. You dont want be stuck with 3 lands, one of them being a black source, and not being able to land a liliana because you ran a wildwood over a shambling vent. The 2/3 stat on the vent and 2/2 stat on the mire is definitely underwhelming but a 3 color deck has to prioritize the colors it produces. Everything else should just be gravy.
Me personally, I run a 1/1/1 split on all 3 manlands and run 2 GQs
how do we sideboard against merfolk. what will be OUT and IN for sideboarding and key cards for us and problematic cards for us.
Depends on lists, of course but:
Out: thoughtseize (leave in IOK though), probably one bob and/or one scavenging ooze depending on how much you have to bring in.
In: Kitchen finks, zealous persecution, damnation, good blockers. If you have something to take out for fulminator mage thats a possibility. This is also one of the few matchups I really like timely reinforcements since they don't have trample or any way of interacting with the lifegain portion.
I know it seems kind of vague, but it just depends on what you have access too. Damnation is probably the best card we have access too that's commonly played. There are several very narrow cards like Scryb Ranger and stuff like that that aren't commonly played.
what are your thoughts about taking out our 4 drops or top end? if i play a traditional BOB-less Junk, what do i take out? if i have a perfect sideboard merfolk what would i take in? let's say i only expect merfolk and all 15 cards sideboard will be dedicated to merfolk
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-stony silence
- board wipes?
- extra removal?
any suggestions?
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I've run Darkblast in the MB/SB for awhile as well and the main thing you miss is Kiki-Jiki, Goblin Guide, Wild Natal and Eidolon of the Great Revel. Though for everything but Kiki-Jiki (assuming you're dead) you can do the upkeep trick to kill them but it feels bad. I still find Darkblast to be better than Disfigure to stop multiple mana dorks, tokens and infect/affinity.
Modern:
Oh right I forgot about those, thanks. My meta has been infested with Affinity and to a lesser extent Infect that I forgot about Guide and Kiki as targets. I guess there's no point of switching since my meta is skewed towards Affinity.
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I've been meaning to do this for a while, as well as get a bunch of other updates made but have just been really busy with end of school year stuff. I'll try to get some updates made either tomorrow night or saturday (probably saturday night).
Also, I've been playing jund more than junk lately which is why I haven't really made too many updates in a while, but may be swinging back into white again with tec-edge being a lot more viable than in recent modern meta.
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4x Tarmogoyf
3x Scavenging Ooze
1x Kitchen Finks
4x Siege Rhino
1x Restoration Angel
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
3x Thoughtseize
4x Lingering Souls
1x Maelstrom Pulse
1x Damnation
3x Path to Exile
3x Abrupt Decay
1x Bitterblossom
3x Liliana of the Veil
3x Marsh Flats
2x Windswept Heath
2x Overgrown Tomb
1x Temple Garden
1x Godless Shrine
1x Twilight Mire
2x Stirring Wildwood
1x Shambling Vent
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1x Vault of the Archangel
1x Ghost Quarter
2x Swamp
1x Forest
1x Plains
2x Kitchen Finks
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
1x Painful Truths
1x Damnation
1x Celestiral Purge
1x Choke
2x Stony Silence
3x Leyline of the Void
1x Engineered Explosives
2x Grafdigger's Cage
This is the list I'm running at a local 1k tomorrow. Expecting a decent amount of CoCo, Zoo and UWx. Would love any input.
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went 3-0-1 tonight beating Merfolk, Blue Moon and Jeskai Nahiri then ID for first place.
Anguished Unmaking saved my butt against Nahiri and test games against tron.
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UUU Merfolk UUU
"Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR
"The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
I'm building up cards for this deck (preparing to take the plunge and get goyfs) and I've run into a problem; a good 40 percent of the people at my local store play Kiki chord, which this deck has some problems with in my experience. They are just absurdly good at grinding me out. I'm miles away from affording the switch to Jund, so in the meanwhile, what are some good card choices to help even out my chord matchup?
Not sure if too greedy
Lands (24)
1 Forest
1 Plains
2 Swamp
1 Gavony Township
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hissing Quagmire
4 Marsh Flats
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Shambling Vent
1 Stirring Wildwood
1 Temple Garden
1 Twilight Mire
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Windswept Heath
1 Ghost Quarter
Creatures (12)
3 Scavenging Ooze
3 Siege Rhino
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Planeswalkers (4)
4 Liliana of the Veil
Spells (20)
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Disfigure
3 Path to Exile
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Lingering Souls
2 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Painful Truths
3 Thoughtseize
Sideboard
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Fulminator Mage
2 Kitchen Finks
1 Zealous Persecution
2 Stony Silence
1 Path to Exile
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Damnation
1 Painful Truths
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Courser of Kruphix
GBR Jund Midrange
GWU Bant Eldrazi
UG UG Infect
I dont think you should base your deckbuilding around the creature stats, but rather, the colors the manlands provide. You dont want be stuck with 3 lands, one of them being a black source, and not being able to land a liliana because you ran a wildwood over a shambling vent. The 2/3 stat on the vent and 2/2 stat on the mire is definitely underwhelming but a 3 color deck has to prioritize the colors it produces. Everything else should just be gravy.
Me personally, I run a 1/1/1 split on all 3 manlands and run 2 GQs
Depends on lists, of course but:
Out: thoughtseize (leave in IOK though), probably one bob and/or one scavenging ooze depending on how much you have to bring in.
In: Kitchen finks, zealous persecution, damnation, good blockers. If you have something to take out for fulminator mage thats a possibility. This is also one of the few matchups I really like timely reinforcements since they don't have trample or any way of interacting with the lifegain portion.
Spreading seas is probably the most problematic thing for us as it can really keep us off balance in casting timely removal spells or blockers. Other problematic cards include master of waves (mainly because it blanks abrupt decay and liliana), tidebinder mage, harbinger of the tides, threads of disloyalty (this one can cause HUGE blowouts), kira, great glass spinner, and also the occasional well-placed vapor snag.
I know it seems kind of vague, but it just depends on what you have access too. Damnation is probably the best card we have access too that's commonly played. There are several very narrow cards like Scryb Ranger and stuff like that that aren't commonly played.
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