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Warping Wail is actually really good vs. Jund and Abzan both. Kills BoB's, Lavamancers, Birds, Nobles, Wall of Roots, Seer, E-Wit, Spellskite and Spirit Tokens. It also counters Sorcery's i.e. Maelstrom Pulse, Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek, Crumble to Dust and Lingering Souls. Also, in a pinch make a dude to sac to for Liliana of the Veil trigger. So I would advise not cutting them vs. either and actually bring in your 3rd, I already run 3 MD as they have so much game right now vs. a lot of the faster archetypes.

Wurmcoil Engine is a card I dropped all together as he was in that weird spot that required Tron and didn't work well with Temple's. So, to shore up the loss of Deathtouch and Lifelink I really liked adding Basilisk Collar to the mix, extremely brutal if equipped to an Endbringer, of which is a really good card vs. both Jund and Abzan.

Relic of Progenitus is a no-brainer sb vs. both

Ratchet Bomb super good vs. Abzan especially if they are Lingering. It is ok vs. Jund as the biggest target is mainly Tarmagoyf and we should already match up well vs. Goyfs with Dismember and early fatties of our own.

Spatial Contortion is not so good vs. Jund, but really good vs. Abzan as they run a bunch of small duders.

Pithing Needle is really good against Jund, only problem is what to target with it as they have multiple good options but game 2 and 3 best option is probably going to be Fulminator Mage, Abzan not so much as about the only real good target would be Viscera Ser and to some lesser extent Spike Feeder, if they are on that game plan.

Just reminded myself that both jund/junk will bring in 1 or more damnation, which is a good card to be countering with wail.

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Warping Wail is actually really good vs. Jund and Abzan both. Kills BoB's, Lavamancers, Birds, Nobles, Wall of Roots, Seer, E-Wit, Spellskite and Spirit Tokens. It also counters Sorcery's i.e. Maelstrom Pulse, Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek, Crumble to Dust and Lingering Souls. Also, in a pinch make a dude to sac to for Liliana of the Veil trigger. So I would advise not cutting them vs. either and actually bring in your 3rd, I already run 3 MD as they have so much game right now vs. a lot of the faster archetypes.

Wurmcoil Engine is a card I dropped all together as he was in that weird spot that required Tron and didn't work well with Temple's. So, to shore up the loss of Deathtouch and Lifelink I really liked adding Basilisk Collar to the mix, extremely brutal if equipped to an Endbringer, of which is a really good card vs. both Jund and Abzan.

Relic of Progenitus is a no-brainer sb vs. both

Ratchet Bomb super good vs. Abzan especially if they are Lingering. It is ok vs. Jund as the biggest target is mainly Tarmagoyf and we should already match up well vs. Goyfs with Dismember and early fatties of our own.

Spatial Contortion is not so good vs. Jund, but really good vs. Abzan as they run a bunch of small duders.

Pithing Needle is really good against Jund, only problem is what to target with it as they have multiple good options but game 2 and 3 best option is probably going to be Fulminator Mage, Abzan not so much as about the only real good target would be Viscera Ser and to some lesser extent Spike Feeder, if they are on that game plan.

very nice writeup. haven't had a lot of experience with jund in my local meta. how aggressively do you mulligan this match and what types of hands are you looking for?

Ya your best options to replace it would be O-Stone or Ugin.

Oblivion Stone would be best as suggested. If you don't have those Perilous Vault can be used as well, its slightly more mana intensive but does exile.

Perilous Vault, I forget this card exist . The only downfall to these 2 options is you lose your board as well. I guess if you're getting overrun or unable to remove threats then it doesn't matter as much if your losing what you have as well. Both Stone and Vault cost 5 to activate, so the biggest concern for which one to play. Does the "bubble' ability of the O-Stone matter as usually your wanting to play it and pop it asap, the "bubble is a nice option to have. O-Stone can come down a turn earlier, but sill have to wait till 5 mana to pop, same as Vault. One thing of note though, is that Perilous Vault does exile and that can be very important in a lot of matchups. The other factor that, well is kinda taboo but relevant is O-Stone is 20$ and not readily available at a lot of LGS, whereas Vault is a 2$ bulk rare found in most commander bulk boxes. I still prefer All is Dust for my main sweeper as I can cast it off Temple. I am drawn to the instant speed of the Stone/Vault the same way I love Ratchet Bomb vs. small fast decks, just haven't decided fully on my mass removal pkg. Right now I run 2 MD Dust, and 2 SB Ugin's and may replace Ugin's with Stone/Vault.

old article from Cedric boosting o-stone http://www.starcitygames.com/article/32566_How-Eldrazi-Tron-Gave-Me-My-Game-Back.html

was during the eye of ugin days but still a cool read if you didn't catch it.

Got to see him play a few matches live that weekend, he is a fun to watch. I forgot about this article, I did read it post GP but wasn't on the Eldrazi train at the time. He does make a really compelling case for it and the more I think and tinker I like more than Chalice MD. One other thing that I'm liking about O-Stone over other options is the potential freebie off a Reshaper death. All this, plus some issues with my current build, is making me shift the focus of what I was trying to do. This is not a bad thing and think it may start to define my deck a bit better.

I go with O-Stone MB game one and SB in All is Dust in its place versus the right match ups.

Sometimes you just need to reset the board before you get overran. Goblins, Elves, Merfolk, Dredge. (Speaking of Dredge, Perilous Vault is even better in that matchup with the exile ability.)

O-Stone also catches artifacts that All is Dust might miss. It also hits Karn and Ugin which is an upside. (if your opponent is foolish enough to leave it alone) And if for some reason you have Ulamog on the table and activate the stone, Ulamog is not destroyed and stays on the board. It gets you a Matter Reshaper trigger as well. It does suck when you have a TKS on the field though.

If you ever want to see O-Stone played well, check out some of Cedric Brown's or Joe Lossett's games with their decks. I learned a lot by watching them.

I couldn't resist had to quote this one from your writeup.

Round 3: 0-2 against Eldrazi Tron. This was the plain colorless version. I got stomped both games.

Who needs color? Sorry couldn't resist. Thanks for the link and hope we can help.

Had a rough day yesterday at a 9 person GPT going 0-2, 4 of us were on Tron of various degrees. Lost to U/W Gifts Tron in an epic back and forth match, where I needed not too flood and draw relevant cards. Other loss was to Jund, he lived the dream game 1 as I had 2 Tron lands w/ Map and he on the play IoK's my map and never got enough traction before his Ravine beat me down and I run 4 Quarte's, smh. I am liking my list alot more and think I am getting close to where I want it to be. This is what I ran.

Going forward I am planning on dropping Kozliek from the list as he is really only good in a few specific Match-ups, also moving 1 Wail to the sb and maybe the Kozilek maybe a 3rd Dismemeber but that is still in flux.

HyrdrogenOutlet do you prefer the version with or without Mind Stone?

Has anyone tried Batterskull?

How does a Blue Splash work for this and going with Coax from the Blind Eternities and wishing for All is Dust and/or a Titan in the side? And play with all the Monoblue tron counter package stuff?

Ran into Scapeshift for the first time last night, what a horrible matchup. So, now with it showing up in R/G Breach-Titan and dedicated Scapeshift decks, that are starting to pop up a little more lately locally I am thinking of a Sundering Titan in the SB, had been thinking of it prior to the Scapeshift match and now want to see how it is even more. Also, found out last night vs. Bant Eldrazi that Stony Silence is still kinda good vs. me as it shut off my O-Stones game 2 and didn't side in my Ugin's in prep for it as I never saw it coming.

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Ran into Scapeshift for the first time last night, what a horrible matchup. So, now with it showing up in R/G Breach-Titan and dedicated Scapeshift decks, that are starting to pop up a little more lately locally I am thinking of a Sundering Titan in the SB, had been thinking of it prior to the Scapeshift match and now want to see how it is even more. Also, found out last night vs. Bant Eldrazi that Stony Silence is still kinda good vs. me as it shut off my O-Stones game 2 and didn't side in my Ugin's in prep for it as I never saw it coming.

Would Sundering Titan hit our Wastes as well?

There is also Witchbane Orb that gives us hexproof. It would have some play vs. say Jund as well versus IoK, T'Sieze and Bolt. Other than that I'm at a loss. Splashing Mountains to play Blood Moon seems counter-productive. Crumble to Dust somehow splashing red?

Ward of Bones and hoping you Tron? Seems like a real longshot.

I think 4 tectonic edge between main and side is better than sundering titan against scapeshift.

@Ageless

Nice list you have there, and congrats on the good finish.

One question.. why did you side out the chalice against elves?

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What do you guys think of the decks listed under similar decks on the page for Eldrazi tron on goldfish? https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-eltronzi-26966#online

Specifically those run by player ProHilary, seems to been having quite a good run with it recently, notably running 4 Chalices in mainboard.

I'm trying to figure out why they call it Eltronzi? Its always been EldraziTron. Some doofus thinking to be cute I guess.

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Went 5-1 yesterday at my LGS: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/4ytkth/tournament_report_51_with_eldrazi_tron/

Thanks for the link and congrats.

Here's the current deck I'm playing with and preparing to use in a few local tournaments.



The main engines are Mimic + Soulgorger for early kills and Deceiver of Form for mid-late game kills.

Thoughts?