I've Modeled my list primarily after the Skinner list. I was the event he won ( I was on Atarka Goblin's that day ) and it was quite a diverse meta.
I played a FNM last night in Omaha to get some games in before WCQ on Sunday, ended up 3-1. I lost to Naya Allies first round 2-1, kept a sketchy land hand Game 3. Beat Merfolks, Grixis Control and R/W Prison/Control, never saw Boom/Bust so don't know for sure but I did win through a T3 Blood Moon getting a Wastes off a Map. Endless One is still taking a minute to figure out how to use it and I seem to be siding it out a lot and am not sure if this is correct. Matter Reshaper is super good, almost always generating value. Don't want to kill it, keep taking a Lightning Bolt until you do.
I am also moving Endbringer to the side as it seems only good in longer grindy match-ups, but when he sticks he generates a lot of value.
With that I am going to run 1 Karn Liberated main board as it feels better than Endbringer and is another 7 drop to trigger Sanctum of Ugin and can potentially be pitched to a Kozilek, the Great Distortion in that weird corner case.
All in all I really liked the feel of the deck and that everything in it can pretty much win on its own if not answered.
One other thing of note. I didn't realize it until my 3rd match of the night that I was saving so much life by not having to fetch or shock it was rather Liberating. Especially when it's T4-5 and your opponent ask what your life total is at and you can respond with a solid 20, kinda feels like your cheating at that point in Modern.
Many lists here seems to have few World Breakers in a deck with only 1 or 2 forests. How it has been working for you? Odds of having a forest to cast it should not be too great, even if "wasting" one Expedition Map to get it.
Any other main deck ideas of dealing with the game stopping artifacts and enchantment (like Blood Moon and Ensnaring Bridge)? Only if Eldrazi Mimic and Endless One would not be so great, Culling Scales could offer a nice solution while helping to get rid of tokens and other little things like utility creatures.
I've Modeled my list primarily after the Skinner list. I was the event he won ( I was on Atarka Goblin's that day ) and it was quite a diverse meta.
I played a FNM last night in Omaha to get some games in before WCQ on Sunday, ended up 3-1. I lost to Naya Allies first round 2-1, kept a sketchy land hand Game 3. Beat Merfolks, Grixis Control and R/W Prison/Control, never saw Boom/Bust so don't know for sure but I did win through a T3 Blood Moon getting a Wastes off a Map. Endless One is still taking a minute to figure out how to use it and I seem to be siding it out a lot and am not sure if this is correct. Matter Reshaper is super good, almost always generating value. Don't want to kill it, keep taking a Lightning Bolt until you do.
I am also moving Endbringer to the side as it seems only good in longer grindy match-ups, but when he sticks he generates a lot of value.
With that I am going to run 1 Karn Liberated main board as it feels better than Endbringer and is another 7 drop to trigger Sanctum of Ugin and can potentially be pitched to a Kozilek, the Great Distortion in that weird corner case.
All in all I really liked the feel of the deck and that everything in it can pretty much win on its own if not answered.
One other thing of note. I didn't realize it until my 3rd match of the night that I was saving so much life by not having to fetch or shock it was rather Liberating. Especially when it's T4-5 and your opponent ask what your life total is at and you can respond with a solid 20, kinda feels like your cheating at that point in Modern.
One of the reasons I'm looking into Mockery of Nature as a World Breaker-lite. Playing against 8-rack yesterday I actually got beat one game with both an Ulamog and new Emrakul (proxy copy) on the board because my opponent held onto an Ensnaring Bridge and landed it at the exact right time. It feels humiliating to say the least if you have Conduit, Ulamog and new Emmy on the board (28 POWER!!!) and can't do a damn thing with them. I picked up a playset of Culling Scales a while back. I'll keep it in mind, it could help at times but seems very slow and conditional. And Mockery of Nature seems overcosted although I can fetch it with Conduit.
@ Flip: It sure is nice not having to kill yourself off with fetches and shocks isn't it. One of the things I love about this deck. I think Karn could be a good choice. Have you considered Ugin himself as well?
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I find the choice of Bottle Gnomes as a +3 SB in the first list a little strange. I do know life loss is a real thing at times. Love to hear from those 2 people if they ever check in here.
OK, thanks Flip. Would the Karn be in addition to the 2 Ugins then I assume?
@ tsink: Makes sense. I wonder if Elixir of Immortality would be worth a shot in that spot in a Burn heavy meta.
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Seems like I'd rather spend the 8 mana on a pair of Seers or just about anything else. Didn't know if anyone was running Urborgs in their list that they might be mildly interested.
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Distended Mindbender is one of the new Eldrazi I am interested in trying out. I think it is a sideboard card but it might be a really good sideboard card against more combo style decks. And yes the 1 Karn is in addition to the 2 Ugin's.
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So I played this at the WCQ in Lincoln this past Sunday and walked away with a record of 3-4 foregoing the final round of Swiss, as i was out of the money at that point. My wins were against Jeskai Nahiri, Esper Zur and U/G Infect. Losses were to Naya Zoo (BTE ver.), Suicide Zoo, Ad Nauseum and Jeskai Nahiri.
BTE Zoo 1-2 Game 1 was brutally fast as he chained 3 BTE's into a Whacker T2. Game 3 I cleared his board and he dropped a Hootie w/ me at 7, dismember in hand and he tops a Bolt.
Suicide Zoo 1-2 Game 1 he was really fast but was able to slow him down a lot with early TKS. Game 3 he kept drawing gas before I could get enough on board to shut him out with a RS and couldn't find a Chalice in time either.
Ad Nauseum 1-2 I ripped his grip well enough game 2 with TKS to get him off combo but game 3 I thought I had him off combo amd lost to a top deck ad naus also came up short on finding a Chalice in time. FYI decks like this are my least favorite in the world of Magic and generally loathe playing against them.
Jeskai 0-2 loss was some bad land drops and him getting off 2 Crumbles while I stumbled.
Going forward I believe I will be hunting down a 3rd Chalice of the Void as this is probably our best answer to a myriad of decks especially Zoo, Combo and Burn.
Still learning the ins and outs of the deck but really enjoyed playing it this past weekend. I feel it has a lot of reach in the current meta and a few new tools coming from EDM in Emrakul, the Promised End and Distended Mindbender that shouldn't hurt.
Living End, Lotus Bloom and on the play vs. Bots on 0 is not a bad play either. It is most effective on 1 though as it stops almost all relevant removal, almost all of Lantern Control's artifacts and Dudes/Pumps for Zoo's.
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Decks I am currently struggling against are Ad Nauseam and Fast Zoo decks (pre-board). I believe that Chalice of the Void on 1 is our best option against them for the most part and believe it or not a timely Kozilek, the Great Distortion with good draws off it can win against Ad Nauseam. Early sweeps vs. all the Zoo starts is important i.e. Ratchet Bomb as O-Stone and Ugin are usually too slow, unless you get some extra ramp from a Reshaper dying. I do like the idea of Basilisk Collar instead of running Wurmcoil Engine's. Allowing for a more Eldrazi focused creature base, making for less sketchy land draws and turning any one of our threats into a Psuedo-Coil. Emrakul, the Promised End and Distended Mindbender are the only new Eldrazi I am currently interested in testing, although I think Mindbender would necessitate another Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth so I'm not sure how viable it is. Newmarkul on the other hand looks quite interesting to test with. Casting this on T4-T5 when most other decks want to be winning could be extremely decisive.
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Newmarkul on the other hand looks quite interesting to test with. Casting this on T4-T5 when most other decks want to be winning could be extremely decisive.
Played a game with a proxy copy of new Emrakul against (Naya)Burn yesterday. Burn 5 life, me 4 life, hard cast new Emmy. Forcing Burn to crack a fetch for a land on the end of my turn so I wouldn't crack it for a shock land on my Mindslaver turn. Burn draws a Boros Charm. Game over for Burn. Can't tell you how many games I've lost to Boros Charm. Poetic justice.
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Newmarkul on the other hand looks quite interesting to test with. Casting this on T4-T5 when most other decks want to be winning could be extremely decisive.
Played a game with a proxy copy of new Emrakul against (Naya)Burn yesterday. Burn 5 life, me 4 life, hard cast new Emmy. Forcing Burn to crack a fetch for a land on the end of my turn so I wouldn't crack it for a shock land on my Mindslaver turn. Burn draws a Boros Charm. Game over for Burn. Can't tell you how many games I've lost to Boros Charm. Poetic justice.
I haven't had the chance to playtest with him at all. What do you normally find yourself casting him for?
Interesting approaches to both of these decks is cutting out Mimics/or Endless Ones (our aggro/pressure tool) for a better midrange game with Endbringers and Spellskite (to help with bad match-ups). Also I really like the Basilisk Collar tech. for the deck as well since there is often times I wished I had a little bit of lifelink to keep the game going longer. Additional Chalice of the Void is just so good. I would love a reprint on it and Spellskite so I could do more testing with these.
The general vibe I am getting is the deck should be focused towards an aggressive aggro game with mana acceleration/mimics or a mid-range variant that cuts out the mimics/mana acceleration for a little more removal/better midrange creatures. I am interested if Conduit of Ruin is even worth having around. Wish I had more time to play test all the variations.
Conduit of Ruin IMO is a bad card. Yes it tutors, but it goes on top of your library allowing for too many variables to come into play. Sanctum of Ugin is a far superior tutor and in a pinch you can go get it with an Expedition Map if you need to. Generally speaking if were are in a position where we are dropping a Titan we are usually winning the game and Sanctum allows us to show the inevitability. There are not too many times after cracking a Sanctum does the opposing player not scoop.
Also I agree that there are 2 basic versions of this deck. One that predicates on faster starts with Mimics and EO's and one that is more mid-range/control build with the ability to be explosive still. Ufortunately I find the fast version to be a bit glass cannonish if you don't get a good start. I prefer the more mid-range big beats version.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I love it, it is in no way "bad" and run 4 copies and it lets me with decent consistency play a turn 4 Ulamog. It also allows those running World Breaker to tutor it up as well. The 2 "free" mana for Eldrazi is real as well. I like Sanctum of Ugin as well but it is slower than Conduit if you ask me. I want the ability for a turn 4 Ulamog, new Emrakul, Kozilek or Deceiver of Form. Of course as you say I'm running the more aggro version vs. the more mid-range/control version. It comes down to personal preference. Conduit may also have a slot with the new Emerge Eldrazi as well. Time will tell on that one.
I think it speaks a lot for the deck that there are certain ways and styles of play and that there appears to be room for innovation as well. I say find what you like and what works well for you and go with it.
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I haven't had the chance to playtest with him at all. What do you normally find yourself casting him for?
I haven't had a whole ton of games run with new Emrakul yet.
Early game I'm usually tutoring for an Ulamog over new Emrakul. Emrakul seems more like a mid to late game finisher. I'll also be honest, at times I've wished new Emrakul was Kozilek instead. As for the "discount" on new Emmy, I usually have 2 or 3 card types in the graveyard the few times she has been cast. I don't run a lot of removal though. The Mindslaver ability seems to be very opponent deck dependent as well. Sometimes it can wreck an opponent, other times she does little to nothing on the Mindslaver turn. I'm almost wondering if she should go SB in my list and I should MB another copy of Ulamog or one of Kozilek instead and then go from there in game 2 and 3.
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I played a FNM last night in Omaha to get some games in before WCQ on Sunday, ended up 3-1. I lost to Naya Allies first round 2-1, kept a sketchy land hand Game 3. Beat Merfolks, Grixis Control and R/W Prison/Control, never saw Boom/Bust so don't know for sure but I did win through a T3 Blood Moon getting a Wastes off a Map.
Endless One is still taking a minute to figure out how to use it and I seem to be siding it out a lot and am not sure if this is correct.
Matter Reshaper is super good, almost always generating value. Don't want to kill it, keep taking a Lightning Bolt until you do.
I am also moving Endbringer to the side as it seems only good in longer grindy match-ups, but when he sticks he generates a lot of value.
With that I am going to run 1 Karn Liberated main board as it feels better than Endbringer and is another 7 drop to trigger Sanctum of Ugin and can potentially be pitched to a Kozilek, the Great Distortion in that weird corner case.
All in all I really liked the feel of the deck and that everything in it can pretty much win on its own if not answered.
One other thing of note. I didn't realize it until my 3rd match of the night that I was saving so much life by not having to fetch or shock it was rather Liberating. Especially when it's T4-5 and your opponent ask what your life total is at and you can respond with a solid 20, kinda feels like your cheating at that point in Modern.
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One of the reasons I'm looking into Mockery of Nature as a World Breaker-lite. Playing against 8-rack yesterday I actually got beat one game with both an Ulamog and new Emrakul (proxy copy) on the board because my opponent held onto an Ensnaring Bridge and landed it at the exact right time. It feels humiliating to say the least if you have Conduit, Ulamog and new Emmy on the board (28 POWER!!!) and can't do a damn thing with them. I picked up a playset of Culling Scales a while back. I'll keep it in mind, it could help at times but seems very slow and conditional. And Mockery of Nature seems overcosted although I can fetch it with Conduit.
@ Flip: It sure is nice not having to kill yourself off with fetches and shocks isn't it. One of the things I love about this deck. I think Karn could be a good choice. Have you considered Ugin himself as well?
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OK, thanks Flip. Would the Karn be in addition to the 2 Ugins then I assume?
@ tsink: Makes sense. I wonder if Elixir of Immortality would be worth a shot in that spot in a Burn heavy meta.
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Seems like I'd rather spend the 8 mana on a pair of Seers or just about anything else. Didn't know if anyone was running Urborgs in their list that they might be mildly interested.
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Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
BTE Zoo 1-2 Game 1 was brutally fast as he chained 3 BTE's into a Whacker T2. Game 3 I cleared his board and he dropped a Hootie w/ me at 7, dismember in hand and he tops a Bolt.
Suicide Zoo 1-2 Game 1 he was really fast but was able to slow him down a lot with early TKS. Game 3 he kept drawing gas before I could get enough on board to shut him out with a RS and couldn't find a Chalice in time either.
Ad Nauseum 1-2 I ripped his grip well enough game 2 with TKS to get him off combo but game 3 I thought I had him off combo amd lost to a top deck ad naus also came up short on finding a Chalice in time. FYI decks like this are my least favorite in the world of Magic and generally loathe playing against them.
Jeskai 0-2 loss was some bad land drops and him getting off 2 Crumbles while I stumbled.
Going forward I believe I will be hunting down a 3rd Chalice of the Void as this is probably our best answer to a myriad of decks especially Zoo, Combo and Burn.
Still learning the ins and outs of the deck but really enjoyed playing it this past weekend. I feel it has a lot of reach in the current meta and a few new tools coming from EDM in Emrakul, the Promised End and Distended Mindbender that shouldn't hurt.
Current Decks
Standard : WB Orzhov Vampires BW GUB Sultai Constrictor BUG
Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
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Standard : WB Orzhov Vampires BW GUB Sultai Constrictor BUG
Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
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Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
Good to see the deck getting some recognition out there. Looking forward to testing a small handful on the new Eldrazi out (namely Elder Deep-Fiend, Emrakul, the Promised End and Mockery of Nature as SB or MB tech.
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Played a game with a proxy copy of new Emrakul against (Naya)Burn yesterday. Burn 5 life, me 4 life, hard cast new Emmy. Forcing Burn to crack a fetch for a land on the end of my turn so I wouldn't crack it for a shock land on my Mindslaver turn. Burn draws a Boros Charm. Game over for Burn. Can't tell you how many games I've lost to Boros Charm. Poetic justice.
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I haven't had the chance to playtest with him at all. What do you normally find yourself casting him for?
Also in terms of results;
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/443947#paper
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-eldrazi-tron-26966#paper
Both 5-0 in Modern.
Interesting approaches to both of these decks is cutting out Mimics/or Endless Ones (our aggro/pressure tool) for a better midrange game with Endbringers and Spellskite (to help with bad match-ups). Also I really like the Basilisk Collar tech. for the deck as well since there is often times I wished I had a little bit of lifelink to keep the game going longer. Additional Chalice of the Void is just so good. I would love a reprint on it and Spellskite so I could do more testing with these.
The general vibe I am getting is the deck should be focused towards an aggressive aggro game with mana acceleration/mimics or a mid-range variant that cuts out the mimics/mana acceleration for a little more removal/better midrange creatures. I am interested if Conduit of Ruin is even worth having around. Wish I had more time to play test all the variations.
Also I agree that there are 2 basic versions of this deck. One that predicates on faster starts with Mimics and EO's and one that is more mid-range/control build with the ability to be explosive still. Ufortunately I find the fast version to be a bit glass cannonish if you don't get a good start. I prefer the more mid-range big beats version.
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Standard : WB Orzhov Vampires BW GUB Sultai Constrictor BUG
Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I love it, it is in no way "bad" and run 4 copies and it lets me with decent consistency play a turn 4 Ulamog. It also allows those running World Breaker to tutor it up as well. The 2 "free" mana for Eldrazi is real as well. I like Sanctum of Ugin as well but it is slower than Conduit if you ask me. I want the ability for a turn 4 Ulamog, new Emrakul, Kozilek or Deceiver of Form. Of course as you say I'm running the more aggro version vs. the more mid-range/control version. It comes down to personal preference. Conduit may also have a slot with the new Emerge Eldrazi as well. Time will tell on that one.
I think it speaks a lot for the deck that there are certain ways and styles of play and that there appears to be room for innovation as well. I say find what you like and what works well for you and go with it.
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I haven't had a whole ton of games run with new Emrakul yet.
Early game I'm usually tutoring for an Ulamog over new Emrakul. Emrakul seems more like a mid to late game finisher. I'll also be honest, at times I've wished new Emrakul was Kozilek instead. As for the "discount" on new Emmy, I usually have 2 or 3 card types in the graveyard the few times she has been cast. I don't run a lot of removal though. The Mindslaver ability seems to be very opponent deck dependent as well. Sometimes it can wreck an opponent, other times she does little to nothing on the Mindslaver turn. I'm almost wondering if she should go SB in my list and I should MB another copy of Ulamog or one of Kozilek instead and then go from there in game 2 and 3.
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Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
Glad to hear Emrakul performed well for you
1x Emrakul, the Promised End
3x Endbringer
1x Kozilek, the Great Distortion
4x Matter Reshaper
4x Reality Smasher
4x Thought-Knot Seer
2x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
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2x Dismember
3x Spatial Contortion
3x Warping Wail
4x Eldrazi Temple
4x Ghost Quarter
2x Sanctum of Ugin
4x Urza's Mine
4x Urza's Power Plant
4x Urza's Tower
2x Wastes
Planeswalker (3)
1x Karn Liberated
2x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
Sorcery (2)
2x All Is Dust
4x Expedition Map
1x Basilisk Collar
3x Chalice of the Void
2x Grafdigger's Cage
2x Pithing Needle
3x Ratchet Bomb
2x Relic of Progenitus
2x Spellskite
Current Decks
Standard : WB Orzhov Vampires BW GUB Sultai Constrictor BUG
Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG