So what do you think about By Force? for artifact hate sb i mean
By Force seems mad decent if you're in an artifact heavy meta. I'm not too worried about Affinity given we already have low-cost removal and Kolaghan's Command plus Snapcaster Mage.
Also regarding enigma drake - yeah it's not very good in Grixis Delver. But something I've been pondering is a Delver deck with Cryptic Serpent and Bedlam Reveler. Enigma Drake could be quite good there too.
Is there going to be an update to the main primer anytime soon? There hasn't been anything added since late 2015, and there's been a ton of metagame changes as well as additions to the deck that probably should be included (like Fatal Push!). It would be really sweet to see what the next update to it would include
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Modern UR Storm URB Grixis Delver W Death and Taxes
Basically anything with Scalding Tarn
Has someone ever actually tested Deprivein the slot of Mana Leak? I feel like the Deck ist just one better Lategame-Counter away from beeing T1, and Deprive looks not so good on Paper but i kinda like the idea...
I've tested it in a few Delver and Control lists. Generally I like it as a 1-of. It can suck to have it in your opening 7, but IMO that can be worth the upside of how strong it is in the late game. And sometimes there are early spells that you just need to counter so badly it's worth the tempo hit (countering a Goryo's, or a Plating, or a Karn/Wurmcoil on the draw).
I also ran a single Deprive for many months until I switched to Delver-Shadow. Bouncing a land is rarely a problem. Rarely, but not never. If or when I switch back, Deprive will be in the mix.
FWIW, Delver-Shadow has sucked so hard for me that I may switch back quite soon.
FWIW, Delver-Shadow has sucked so hard for me that I may switch back quite soon.
Care to post your list? It could also be a meta issue. Mine tended to be pretty solid since there was a lot of combo and big mana decks.
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You know, if you're looking for a new card to slot into Grixis Delver... Bone Picker might be your guy. Only dies to a Revolted Fatal Push, and from what I'm hearing, Lightning Bolt is on the decline as the removal spell of choice. Also our deck is chock full of removal so I can't see any serious problems with it except vs combo and control decks, where YP is much better.
What about dropping the Anglers for Bone Picker? It lets you leave more stuff in the yard for Snapcaster and Tasigur delves while also keeping you spell density high for Delver flips and removal spells.
What about dropping the Anglers for Bone Picker? It lets you leave more stuff in the yard for Snapcaster and Tasigur delves while also keeping you spell density high for Delver flips and removal spells.
Lol, here's a funny thing I was thinking of this morning:
Then you'd have to have a lot more kill spells to make it work, but you could feasibly start running more fatal push and terminate. However, a T2 Fatal Push + Bone Picker could be a pretty sweet play. Young Pyromancer helps turn on Bone Picker more often.
Hey folks, I've been noticing two problems with my trad[/card]itional Delver deck recently. I get way too many land drops, and my Delvers barely ever flip.
Aside from running too few pushes, everything seems to be in order. I noticed in the maybe board goblin dark-dwellers... please don't put it in your side board.
Guess i will be trying out Censor as a 1-off in my list. Hope it doesn't work out as bad as it looks although my hopes are pretty low on that card. Why couldn't they just make it a miscalculation?
I replaced my 2 mana leaks with 2 Censor. It's really not as bad as I thought it would be, but yes, them not printing Miscalculation was, well, a miscalculation. It's every bit as good as Mana Leak from turns 2-4 vs most decks as they attempt to curve out, and I've had some cool turns where you can cycle it after flipping it on a Delver, as well as being able to blow out someone by Snapcastering a previously cycled Censor.
By Force seems mad decent if you're in an artifact heavy meta. I'm not too worried about Affinity given we already have low-cost removal and Kolaghan's Command plus Snapcaster Mage.
Also regarding enigma drake - yeah it's not very good in Grixis Delver. But something I've been pondering is a Delver deck with Cryptic Serpent and Bedlam Reveler. Enigma Drake could be quite good there too.
UR Storm
URB Grixis Delver
W Death and Taxes
Basically anything with Scalding Tarn
I ended up keeping it but I think I should've mulliganed.
Also, how do I post a picture on the post itself and not as an attachment?
I think I will post 7 card hands every now and then because I find mulliganing with this deck is very interesting.
Against an unknown opponent in my particular meta I'd probably keep it as there isn't a ton of DS Decks. In the wild, I'd definitely mull this one.
Also, I'd be happy to help update the primer if the OP isn't going to.
I've tested it in a few Delver and Control lists. Generally I like it as a 1-of. It can suck to have it in your opening 7, but IMO that can be worth the upside of how strong it is in the late game. And sometimes there are early spells that you just need to counter so badly it's worth the tempo hit (countering a Goryo's, or a Plating, or a Karn/Wurmcoil on the draw).
Milling it off of Thought Scour is also great.
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
FWIW, Delver-Shadow has sucked so hard for me that I may switch back quite soon.
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Care to post your list? It could also be a meta issue. Mine tended to be pretty solid since there was a lot of combo and big mana decks.
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You know, if you're looking for a new card to slot into Grixis Delver... Bone Picker might be your guy. Only dies to a Revolted Fatal Push, and from what I'm hearing, Lightning Bolt is on the decline as the removal spell of choice. Also our deck is chock full of removal so I can't see any serious problems with it except vs combo and control decks, where YP is much better.
A creature base could be something like:
Creatures (15)
4x Snapcaster Mage
2x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2x Gurmag Angler
3x Bone Picker
Lol, here's a funny thing I was thinking of this morning:
14 Creatures
Then you'd have to have a lot more kill spells to make it work, but you could feasibly start running more fatal push and terminate. However, a T2 Fatal Push + Bone Picker could be a pretty sweet play. Young Pyromancer helps turn on Bone Picker more often.
I was on 20 lands, 26 instants/sorceries. I've switched it to 19/27 and want to see where that goes. Here's my list:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-07-16-modern-grixis-delver/
Has anyone else been having these problems?
Aside from running too few pushes, everything seems to be in order. I noticed in the maybe board goblin dark-dwellers... please don't put it in your side board.
I replaced my 2 mana leaks with 2 Censor. It's really not as bad as I thought it would be, but yes, them not printing Miscalculation was, well, a miscalculation. It's every bit as good as Mana Leak from turns 2-4 vs most decks as they attempt to curve out, and I've had some cool turns where you can cycle it after flipping it on a Delver, as well as being able to blow out someone by Snapcastering a previously cycled Censor.
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