I think TNN is a card that in the context of the Modern, can be ignored by most of the top decks in the format. Although I have been out of the loop for a while, I can't really think of any deck that actively wants to engage in ground combat. Rock or GDS maybe? Unfair decks straight up do not care. Don't think tron or UR phoenix are bothered in the least by TNN. 3 damage per turn starting from turn 4 isnt really anything to write home about either.
We have to keep in mind that TNN shines because blue as a whole is also much stronger in Legacy.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
Some thoughts on Modern Horizons, including breakdowns of the stream-spoiled cards, possible reprint includes, and of course long-term format implications. I think Horizons might slow the format's development to a crawl after an initial brewing renaissance of sorts; after all, there's no guarantee more products like this are released down the road. In fact, I'd say the odds of that happening (especially with any semblance of frequency) are very low.
the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.
I think Modern Horizons will absolutely power up spell-based decks. One of the power imbalances of pre-8th edition is the power and variety of spells available to reprint. Obviously, the new spells could be creatures to make up the difference.
I hope though that Modern Horizons doesn't power up spell-based strategies to the extent like in Legacy that aggro and specifically creature-based swarm strategies like most tribal decks like Humans, Spirits, Elves, Merfolk die or are non-existant outside of fringe decks. I hope it also powers up other fringe creature-swarm decks like Goblins, Slivers (with Crystalline, Hibernation, Muscle, and Hunter Sliver).
One of the upsides for players of power cards is that by upping the power level of the format with reprints and modern focused cards, it also allows the power-level to increase to such that cards can be UNBANNED from the list as the format will have sufficiently changed pre-Modern Horizons.
as much as I'd like to see force of will in modern, I'm pretty skeptical on it. Counterspell on the other hand seems pretty fine. True-name nemesis is another card I'd be skeptical on but would be fine if they printed as modern legal as a test. I would also like to see some kind of combination of innocent blood, toxic deluge and diabolic edict would probably be fine
Some thoughts on Modern Horizons, including breakdowns of the stream-spoiled cards, possible reprint includes, and of course long-term format implications. I think Horizons might slow the format's development to a crawl after an initial brewing renaissance of sorts; after all, there's no guarantee more products like this are released down the road. In fact, I'd say the odds of that happening (especially with any semblance of frequency) are very low.
while its technically true there is no guarantee the fact that the set code is 'MH1' speaks of more down the line. at this point i think wizards hasnt decided whether there will be more, and wont until they can better gauge reception. if its a smash hit, i think its a safe bet there will be another next year.
edit: after reading your article i think i agree with your assertions; particularly regarding therapist vs. serra evaluations. the only thing im on the fence about is force of will. its possible it is too strong, but without the suite of strong cantrips there are also fewer decks that can support the adaquate number of blue cards to reliably cast it with its alternative cost. however i do worry what a deck like UR phoenix would do with a set of forces in the 75; so maybe you are right.
I hope Force of Will is too good for Modern, then we can just ban it and forget that accident happened. To me it's a signal that it's okay to smash game wins right up to T1, and quite frankly I'm not okay with that. We don't even have Counterspell yet, I hope WotC has the wherewithal to chill and see how it pans out first.
There's plenty of cards from Legacy that can add new strategy to Modern without calling all decks to abide by a Force check to play the game. Because if Force is too good and they won't ban it... then what? As much as I like playing control, I never want to have to add FoW to my decks.
Some thoughts on Modern Horizons, including breakdowns of the stream-spoiled cards, possible reprint includes, and of course long-term format implications. I think Horizons might slow the format's development to a crawl after an initial brewing renaissance of sorts; after all, there's no guarantee more products like this are released down the road. In fact, I'd say the odds of that happening (especially with any semblance of frequency) are very low.
Nice article! I particularly like your points about:
-Answers more like Damping Sphere than Wasteland
-Grindy midrange cards (would love to see Strix and Shardless in Modern)
-Tools that power up under-represented tribal synergies or deck archetypes
I would contend that Stifle and Daze in particular are too good when the person playing them is on the play, especially in decks that don't need the help in that department, like GDS and Izzet Phoenix. That said, the fact that we are about to get 250 new toys to play with is really exciting.
One thing I would like to point out is that many of the cards people are suggesting (myself included) as great reprint plants for Modern have already been reprinted in the last year or so, and I have the feeling Wizards will hold those cards back for the next go. Containment Priest, Pernicious Deed, Vindicate, TNN, Back to Basics, Temporal Manipulation, and Brightling immediately spring to mind. I think the commons and uncommons aren't under the same consideration, but that could also hurt the chances for StP and Pillage, at the very least.
I wonder how all of this might factor into the unbanning possiblity for SFM? With all of the excitement Modern will have from the (possible) new London Mulligan, Modern Horizons, and whatever toys we get from the planeswalker-centric War of the Spark, I can't imagine releasing SFM (or anything else) is high priority for Wizards for the foreseeable future (despite the fact that it could come off safely at any time).
One last thought...where are we going to get our needed legal reprints? I posted a guess in another thread about another supplemental set in the Nov-Dec time frame (similar to the Masters sets of the past two years, since Wizards will want that sweet end-of-year pre-holiday revenue), but it would still need some kind of twist for it to reprint those cards and not just be another Masters set.
Daze might be too good in decks like GDS and Phoenix right now, but keep in mind that we're likely to see a systematic upwards shift of the power level of the format with this set, so there's a good chance that it won't be too good when the dust settles.
It'll also make unban discussions more interesting. Pretty much everyone here thinks SFM is already fine, and probably about 40% of us think Twin is fine. The format becoming more powerful almost certainly makes SFM even more ok than she already was. As for Twin, it depends on what a hypothetical Twin shell would get from this set. It'll be interesting to revisit when we see the actual cards.
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Ideally, I’m hoping Modern Horizons brings in old extended archetypes that don’t have a home in Legacy.
I am fearful though that this product introduces too many new cards too quick and changes Modern more rapidly than usual. For me, I enjoy the slow paced Modern evolution as each Standard set releases a few Modern playables. With this set entirely designed as new cards for Modern, be they old pre 8th Edition or brand new cards entirely, it could change Modern much quicker than ever before. Besides rotation, another aspect of Standard that I dislike is how much of a drastic impact a new set has upon the format so I don’t want to see this happen to my favorite format Modern.
Ideally, I’m hoping Modern Horizons brings in old extended archetypes that don’t have a home in Legacy.
I am fearful though that this product introduces too many new cards too quick and changes Modern more rapidly than usual. For me, I enjoy the slow paced Modern evolution as each Standard set releases a few Modern playables. With this set entirely designed as new cards for Modern, be they old pre 8th Edition or brand new cards entirely, it could change Modern much quicker than ever before. Besides rotation, another aspect of Standard that I dislike is how much of a drastic impact a new set has upon the format so I don’t want to see this happen to my favorite format Modern.
in the interview that the Professor did with Gavin Verhey (wotc product architect) not too long ago the question was posed about a straight-to-modern set and Verhey brought up these very concerns. Specifically he mentions the concern with the format not developing organically over time like you say. He also goes on to mention that the barrier to such a set was the extra resources (man hours designing/testing) that would be required.
Given that he made those statements with full knowledge that such a specific product was soon (relatively) to be announced/released; i think its safe to assume he was recounting what actually happened but just worded to be noncommittal
That isnt to say that there wont be any mistakes; i just think its worth noting that they at least had the stuff youre talking about in mind. how well they pull it off, or whether they ignored it are yet to be seen.
Maro also said on his blog that they had the Play Design team play testing this set in Modern. I'm hoping the overall effect is a small bump in power to some decks, but mostly cards that enable new archetypes.
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I also hope that Horizons enables new archetypes more than it powers up existing decks, although I wouldn't mind also powering up some of the lower tier existing decks. I also hope it increases diversity in some types of decks that don't see much diversity in higher tiered play, like encouraging big-mana decks to include more green ramp rather than just tron type stuff, encouraging more different control decks enough that more different ones survive later rounds of tournaments and there isn't such a limited pool of top tier ones keeping the archetype in the top tier, barely able to keep up with the format's many combo and aggro and such decks, and some more stuff to clearly differentiate tempo from midrange again, as the lines between the two have become blurred and leaning towards 'good-stuff' type deck design with power level of cards or limitations in card pools for proper synergy in certain areas overwhelming strategy synergy.
They said at the beginning of the stream the blue card they had in mind was super powerful and wanted to keep it for later. It probably means it's a card that saw play and was proven strong (so they can evaluate it properly), not a new card. If I take a look at what blue cards define Legacy, the only one I see acceptable is Daze, but TNN is in the realm of possibility as well.
Daze would help GDS play their Watery Graves again, probably pushing the deck on top again. That's a risk.
TNN would push Merfolk in Tier 1 status for sure (maybe other tempo decks too), but would also make a weird limited environment. If they chose to add this creature, there has to be some Innocent Blood / Diabolic Edict or Toxic Deluge in the set as well.
It's easy to dismiss all the fast mana, under any form (Elvish Spirit Guide, Ancient Tomb, Cabal Ritual, Lotus Petal, Show and Tell, Sneak Attack), but there might be cards in the vein of Cabal Therapist instead, like Cabal Ritualist or Lotus Looter and whatnot. The reason is that they obviously balanced the risks and rewards of each inclusion, then when we see how long they take before unbanning SFM, they wouldn't dare reprint busted accel, right ?
In the same vein, tutors are out of the question (Natural Order, all cards with "tutor" in their name), except midrange stuff like Recruiter of the Guard.
On the whole, I think that's pretty reasonable and fair when looking at the format as a whole. However, they essentially said that some inclusions were made with particular decks/archetypes in mind. Therefore, I could definitely see an Enlightened Tutor reprint as works on two different fronts; it'd be a welcome addition to niche enchantment-relevant archetypes (e.g. Bogles) while also helping to give White some more options and boost that part of the color pie.
On the topic of baseless speculation, what do we all think about the potential for Sylvan Library entering Modern? Initially, I chalked it up as busted, but the more I think about it the more convinced I am that it wouldn't break the format or cause any major disruptions (aside from blue players again having to see Green get superior card draw).
In regards to whether or not this will be a one-off set or regular installment, I think that will ultimately depend upon player reception and the impact this initial set ends up having on the format over an extended period of time. I can see arguments being made for both sides. On one hand, I don't think WotC (and especially players) want yearly sets that directly affect the meta-game and task WotC with regular micromanagement. On the other hand, there's a reason why players have, for so long, been asking for this type of set; Modern needs answers and a number of those answers aren't suitable for a Standard environment. Seeing as how this set is composed of something like 250 cards, that's a ***** ton of new cards being injected into the Modern card pool and one reason why I think a yearly installment wouldn't only be unlikely , but probably unnecessary. However, I think there's a non-zero chance that this is the only time we'll see a set/supplemental product/etc that introduces new/"old new" cards into the format; WotC will set a precedent with this set and that can of worms cannot be shut. IMO this set will be WotC's attempt to right the Modern ship by giving players needed answers and in some sense "future-'proof" the format.
On the whole, I think that's pretty reasonable and fair when looking at the format as a whole. However, they essentially said that some inclusions were made with particular decks/archetypes in mind. Therefore, I could definitely see an Enlightened Tutor reprint as works on two different fronts; it'd be a welcome addition to niche enchantment-relevant archetypes (e.g. Bogles) while also helping to give White some more options and boost that part of the color pie.
On the topic of baseless speculation, what do we all think about the potential for Sylvan Library entering Modern? Initially, I chalked it up as busted, but the more I think about it the more convinced I am that it wouldn't break the format or cause any major disruptions (aside from blue players again having to see Green get superior card draw).
i would also like to see some added enchantment support, and i think there are a few enchantment based strategies just one good tutor/enabler away from being real competitors. however i think enlightened tutor is just a little too much, 1 mana at instant speed that can also get artifacts sounds too dangerous long term imo.
i dont think Sylvan Library would break anything. in a format dominated by aggro and burn always lurking paying those chunks of life is a liability that would likely relegate the card as sideboard tech. given that though i think it would be a potent tool for plenty of green decks. so yeah i dont think its an absurd option.
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+1 about Library. We can see in Legacy it's a card you play 1 copy, Maybe 2 max. It would help BGx decks a tad bit for the control MUs, and probably be in green decks SBs. Would Tron and Amulet Titan want to play this card ? They could print Mirri's Guile instead though, in order to take fewer risks.
On the whole, I think that's pretty reasonable and fair when looking at the format as a whole. However, they essentially said that some inclusions were made with particular decks/archetypes in mind. Therefore, I could definitely see an Enlightened Tutor reprint as works on two different fronts; it'd be a welcome addition to niche enchantment-relevant archetypes (e.g. Bogles) while also helping to give White some more options and boost that part of the color pie.
Maybe. I try to put myself in their shoes, and I would probably come to the conclusion tutors are risky, but indeed, they surely tested these cards in specific decks and figured out whether they're safe better than what I can imagine. W&S.
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I have been asking for the kavu maybe 4 or 5 times at the "cards that need to be reprinted into the modern card pool" thread. They shoujld have reprinted him in Dominaria.
Sylvan Library would definitely make Bant control a competitive deck. Beyond sheer card advantage, you also have the option to see if the next two cards are Terminus to set it up for the next turn or the opposing turn. Heck, you can even use the library to keep a terminus primed for the next opportunity. Basically, it would be a crude replication of what Sensei's Divining Top did in Miracles, though not enough to enable a Counterbalance deck to be viable. Except it would have, y'know, the ability to trade life for cards.
By the way, with the lack of UGx midrange decks in the format, I could definitely see Baleful Strix and Shardless Agent be in there. Temur doesn't have what it takes to make BBE + AV good enough, Sultai is always a worse Abzan or Jund deck, and Bant doesn't exist. It's a better argument to me that the inherent power level of those cards in a vacuum.
And I'd love to play Strix in artifact decks and Agent in Humans !
Therefore, I could definitely see an Enlightened Tutor reprint as works on two different fronts; it'd be a welcome addition to niche enchantment-relevant archetypes (e.g. Bogles) while also helping to give White some more options and boost that part of the color pie.
Idk, it would scare the hell out of me. Bogles isn't my concern at all, it's more broken stuff like Enduring Ideal, Thopter Foundry, Jeskai Ascendancy & other combo / prison decks. I think i'm fine with the 3-cmc tutors we have right now (even though they're unplaybale) like Tr- Mages, Idyllic Tutor, that kind of garbo (that's why I'd be ok with Recruiters).
Also I keep in mind they don't unban SFM, because it makes games too consistent. Cheap tutors have the potential to create that kind of problem.
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I think some of us have expectations a bit high if we are looking at FoW, true-name nemesis, dark ritual or other obvious auto includes for many decks. I think we should look at cards that would be cool but not overly game altering or format breaking.
What about something like undiscovered paridise, ichorid, blazing archon, or foil? I like the astrial slide reccomendation alot. Cool but not going to be format defining. Many are naming acceptable power level cards, like counterspell, but it just seems to me any well known power house is likely to not be in this set.
Particularly with this being the first one I imagine they will set the bar low. Legacy staples like FoW/True-name are probably not gonna happen. But Undiscovered Paradise is a card that could easily be slipped in or even foil as metalmusic said. Argothian Enchantress type cards that are for archetypes that don't see much play seem the most likely.
Iirc undiscovered paradise is on the Reserved List and has no chance at a reprint
Ok, so that one is on the reserve list. Thanks, I didn't realize that. But I stand by my principal of we are most likely to get cool, fun, interesting, oddball type cards on par for modern power level and not some legacy staple which is obviously super powerful and over the top. I believe this will turn out to be effectively modern+, and certainly they will have taken pains to not have legacy light.
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We have to keep in mind that TNN shines because blue as a whole is also much stronger in Legacy.
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I hope though that Modern Horizons doesn't power up spell-based strategies to the extent like in Legacy that aggro and specifically creature-based swarm strategies like most tribal decks like Humans, Spirits, Elves, Merfolk die or are non-existant outside of fringe decks. I hope it also powers up other fringe creature-swarm decks like Goblins, Slivers (with Crystalline, Hibernation, Muscle, and Hunter Sliver).
One of the upsides for players of power cards is that by upping the power level of the format with reprints and modern focused cards, it also allows the power-level to increase to such that cards can be UNBANNED from the list as the format will have sufficiently changed pre-Modern Horizons.
while its technically true there is no guarantee the fact that the set code is 'MH1' speaks of more down the line. at this point i think wizards hasnt decided whether there will be more, and wont until they can better gauge reception. if its a smash hit, i think its a safe bet there will be another next year.
edit: after reading your article i think i agree with your assertions; particularly regarding therapist vs. serra evaluations. the only thing im on the fence about is force of will. its possible it is too strong, but without the suite of strong cantrips there are also fewer decks that can support the adaquate number of blue cards to reliably cast it with its alternative cost. however i do worry what a deck like UR phoenix would do with a set of forces in the 75; so maybe you are right.
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WCDeath and Taxes(sold)There's plenty of cards from Legacy that can add new strategy to Modern without calling all decks to abide by a Force check to play the game. Because if Force is too good and they won't ban it... then what? As much as I like playing control, I never want to have to add FoW to my decks.
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-Answers more like Damping Sphere than Wasteland
-Grindy midrange cards (would love to see Strix and Shardless in Modern)
-Tools that power up under-represented tribal synergies or deck archetypes
I would contend that Stifle and Daze in particular are too good when the person playing them is on the play, especially in decks that don't need the help in that department, like GDS and Izzet Phoenix. That said, the fact that we are about to get 250 new toys to play with is really exciting.
One thing I would like to point out is that many of the cards people are suggesting (myself included) as great reprint plants for Modern have already been reprinted in the last year or so, and I have the feeling Wizards will hold those cards back for the next go. Containment Priest, Pernicious Deed, Vindicate, TNN, Back to Basics, Temporal Manipulation, and Brightling immediately spring to mind. I think the commons and uncommons aren't under the same consideration, but that could also hurt the chances for StP and Pillage, at the very least.
I wonder how all of this might factor into the unbanning possiblity for SFM? With all of the excitement Modern will have from the (possible) new London Mulligan, Modern Horizons, and whatever toys we get from the planeswalker-centric War of the Spark, I can't imagine releasing SFM (or anything else) is high priority for Wizards for the foreseeable future (despite the fact that it could come off safely at any time).
One last thought...where are we going to get our needed legal reprints? I posted a guess in another thread about another supplemental set in the Nov-Dec time frame (similar to the Masters sets of the past two years, since Wizards will want that sweet end-of-year pre-holiday revenue), but it would still need some kind of twist for it to reprint those cards and not just be another Masters set.
It'll also make unban discussions more interesting. Pretty much everyone here thinks SFM is already fine, and probably about 40% of us think Twin is fine. The format becoming more powerful almost certainly makes SFM even more ok than she already was. As for Twin, it depends on what a hypothetical Twin shell would get from this set. It'll be interesting to revisit when we see the actual cards.
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I am fearful though that this product introduces too many new cards too quick and changes Modern more rapidly than usual. For me, I enjoy the slow paced Modern evolution as each Standard set releases a few Modern playables. With this set entirely designed as new cards for Modern, be they old pre 8th Edition or brand new cards entirely, it could change Modern much quicker than ever before. Besides rotation, another aspect of Standard that I dislike is how much of a drastic impact a new set has upon the format so I don’t want to see this happen to my favorite format Modern.
in the interview that the Professor did with Gavin Verhey (wotc product architect) not too long ago the question was posed about a straight-to-modern set and Verhey brought up these very concerns. Specifically he mentions the concern with the format not developing organically over time like you say. He also goes on to mention that the barrier to such a set was the extra resources (man hours designing/testing) that would be required.
Given that he made those statements with full knowledge that such a specific product was soon (relatively) to be announced/released; i think its safe to assume he was recounting what actually happened but just worded to be noncommittal
That isnt to say that there wont be any mistakes; i just think its worth noting that they at least had the stuff youre talking about in mind. how well they pull it off, or whether they ignored it are yet to be seen.
here is the interview link: https://youtu.be/0DUGg9PDnIY?t=2895
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On the whole, I think that's pretty reasonable and fair when looking at the format as a whole. However, they essentially said that some inclusions were made with particular decks/archetypes in mind. Therefore, I could definitely see an Enlightened Tutor reprint as works on two different fronts; it'd be a welcome addition to niche enchantment-relevant archetypes (e.g. Bogles) while also helping to give White some more options and boost that part of the color pie.
On the topic of baseless speculation, what do we all think about the potential for Sylvan Library entering Modern? Initially, I chalked it up as busted, but the more I think about it the more convinced I am that it wouldn't break the format or cause any major disruptions (aside from blue players again having to see Green get superior card draw).
In regards to whether or not this will be a one-off set or regular installment, I think that will ultimately depend upon player reception and the impact this initial set ends up having on the format over an extended period of time. I can see arguments being made for both sides. On one hand, I don't think WotC (and especially players) want yearly sets that directly affect the meta-game and task WotC with regular micromanagement. On the other hand, there's a reason why players have, for so long, been asking for this type of set; Modern needs answers and a number of those answers aren't suitable for a Standard environment. Seeing as how this set is composed of something like 250 cards, that's a ***** ton of new cards being injected into the Modern card pool and one reason why I think a yearly installment wouldn't only be unlikely , but probably unnecessary. However, I think there's a non-zero chance that this is the only time we'll see a set/supplemental product/etc that introduces new/"old new" cards into the format; WotC will set a precedent with this set and that can of worms cannot be shut. IMO this set will be WotC's attempt to right the Modern ship by giving players needed answers and in some sense "future-'proof" the format.
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i would also like to see some added enchantment support, and i think there are a few enchantment based strategies just one good tutor/enabler away from being real competitors. however i think enlightened tutor is just a little too much, 1 mana at instant speed that can also get artifacts sounds too dangerous long term imo.
i dont think Sylvan Library would break anything. in a format dominated by aggro and burn always lurking paying those chunks of life is a liability that would likely relegate the card as sideboard tech. given that though i think it would be a potent tool for plenty of green decks. so yeah i dont think its an absurd option.
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WCDeath and Taxes(sold)Maybe. I try to put myself in their shoes, and I would probably come to the conclusion tutors are risky, but indeed, they surely tested these cards in specific decks and figured out whether they're safe better than what I can imagine. W&S.
Same. Need him to roast some Hollow Ones.
I have been asking for the kavu maybe 4 or 5 times at the "cards that need to be reprinted into the modern card pool" thread. They shoujld have reprinted him in Dominaria.
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Idk, it would scare the hell out of me. Bogles isn't my concern at all, it's more broken stuff like Enduring Ideal, Thopter Foundry, Jeskai Ascendancy & other combo / prison decks. I think i'm fine with the 3-cmc tutors we have right now (even though they're unplaybale) like Tr- Mages, Idyllic Tutor, that kind of garbo (that's why I'd be ok with Recruiters).
Also I keep in mind they don't unban SFM, because it makes games too consistent. Cheap tutors have the potential to create that kind of problem.
What about something like undiscovered paridise, ichorid, blazing archon, or foil? I like the astrial slide reccomendation alot. Cool but not going to be format defining. Many are naming acceptable power level cards, like counterspell, but it just seems to me any well known power house is likely to not be in this set.
Ok, so that one is on the reserve list. Thanks, I didn't realize that. But I stand by my principal of we are most likely to get cool, fun, interesting, oddball type cards on par for modern power level and not some legacy staple which is obviously super powerful and over the top. I believe this will turn out to be effectively modern+, and certainly they will have taken pains to not have legacy light.