It would see play in every deck that wants to win by dealing combat damage. Affinity, humans, jund, junk, zoo, D&T/E&T, Bant Eldrazi, Big Eldrazi. Abzan company would sideboard 2 almost guaranteed. Merfolk would maindeck 2 or 3.
Many combo decks do care about Jitte, and Burn sure as hell does since a Goyf with a Jitte is unbeatable game 1, but two goyfs is beatable. Storm losing their dorks to an active jitte is a reasonable fear. Valakut can be pushed back a turn, and a Goyf with a Jitte suddenly beats Primetime in combat and threatens to gain enough life to make valakut questionable.
@tronix - An unban doesn't have to make the format better. If Squire was banned, it SHOULD get unbanned. Does it help the format? Not even 0.00000000000000000001%. But it should be an option for players because it doesn't fit Wizard's criteria for banning. Other cards that may get unbanned are not quite at that level obviously, but should be legal options if they don't push the format towards degeneracy.
yeah i understand the sentiment. people view the banlist in different ways, so i cant argue that one method is more correct than the other. im just saying that unbans arent risk free. we could sit here and discuss how certain cards would be fine until we are blue in the face, but no one can be 100 percent sure. jace seemed fine to unban, and in hindsight his spot on the ban list looks rather silly; however if you think there was zero chance jace could have had some unpleasant effects then you are deluding yourself. pros might have been sensationalist, but its not as if they were outright lying through their teeth when voicing their concern.
id personally prefer unbans to have a purpose that can be clearly stated. a defined hypothesis for each experiment just seems like a more rational approach to me.
if people want wotc to go down the ban list testing each plausible option for no reason other than to clean it up, then thats fine too.
Yes, I realize that unbans are not risk free, but the way things are going for Wizards, I feel that they have to take some risks. Even if Modern got a little bit worse after unbans, all it can do is direct more people towards Standard. I think it is a win-win situation for Wizards as long as they don't do anything "too risky," which I don't think BBE or Jace was.
Yes, I do want them to go down the ban list testing because a lot of cards never saw the light of day in Modern. There are fans of all types of archetypes and all types of cards. I was a HUGE Sword of the Meek fan, just to name 1. I am super happy that it is unbanned, although I do wish it's impact was stronger, lol.
*I am a fan of strong cards. Who are we to tell someone that our strong card is allowed in Modern, but there's is not, despite proof (doesn't have to be 100% conclusive) that it wouldn't mess up the format or warp it? I just felt that it was wrong that people could play their Rite of Flame at the beginning of Modern, yet, I couldn't play Sword of the Meek at the same time. I imagine there are people that feel the same way now, with different cards obviously.
**So far, all the unbans did was allow people to play new cards to the format and potentially drop Lantern down a notch. Right now, it looks to be Humans and Hollow One at number 1 and 2 by a small amount, at least in my opinion. I could certainly be wrong about Lantern though, as not enough players play it competitively for us to get good results. Even Zac Elsik has been trying his other "spicy brew of the week" before trying Dredge at the recent GP.
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So now that Humans, Jund and Bogles seem to be dominating the Modern scene, putting out threats quickly and consistently (Humans), putting down threats and disrupting opposing decks (Jund) and putting small creatures out quickly and pumping them to huge beaters (Bogles), it seems like it may be a good time to unban Eye of Ugin to make it competitive again. Thoughts?
Also, I still haven’t seen JTMS make a huge splash and change the Modern meta since it was unbanned and I’m sure if it will have as significant effect at Bloodbraid Elf. Perhaps it will with more time? I’m just not seeing it currently, but I hope I’m wrong since I love the card.
I'm honestly not even willing to have a serious discussion about Jitte with anyone who hasn't got years of serious legacy play under their belt; I don't think the card can be discussed without reference to how polarizing it still is in Legacy in creature matchups. To this day Merfolk decks (admittedly fringe) still play a bunch of phantasmal images because if the opponent drops a stoneforge into jitte, they lose. Eldrazi played as many as 2 main deck jittes for similar reasons.
The card just utterly dominates creature matchups in an extremely awkward way. We do not want it in modern.
It was so busted that people played Jittes just to counter jittes before the legend rule, and now it'll see play as a random 1-of in any deck looking to keep its creatures alive.
If there were a storm scale for cards getting unbanned, I would put Jitte left of Seething Song.
(The reason for that, for the record, is that Seething Song has replacement bans, much like summer Bloom. There is an argument for allowing busted enablers but killing finishers or other enablers such as Amulet or Grapeshot or PIF, etc. With jitte, once you loose it you can't do anything but reban it because its individual power level is the problem. Same with Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time).
Honestly, it took 1 game of legacy for me to realise we do not want Jitte in modern.
I've played modern for ~3 years now, I've played 10 matches of legacy, of those 3 games were against D&T, 5 jace decks and then 2 combo decks.
I walked away from that thinking jace would be fine for modern, but jitte was a serious issue and should never be unbanned, the fact it was combat damage, not damage to a player, really made me understand how nuts it was.
IMO SFM was always more unlikely of an unban than jace/BBE, just cause of the power of tutor + uncounterability of SFM activation.
I‘ve never experienced the troubles Jitte caused and can only try to imagine what it must have been like.
One thing I‘d like to point out however @FoodChainGoblins, is that „this card is going to be in every XYZ deck“, „requires an answer immediately“, „see what it did in Legacy“ and „every deck cares about [...]“ were used when discussing the JTMS unban just recently. Modern still seems to be doing fine so far. Maybe there’s a possibility that not every deck cares about Jitte - the same way as not every blue deck runs an auto 4-of JTMS?
Many decks will try to run it, certainly. But this doesn‘t mean it suits them best.
the main things to realise with jitte is that it's ANY combat damage (including blocking), so if they get a swing in, you have to block, and have your creature die, before damage resolves.
the other things is that you can remove counters from jitte at instant speed, and when it's unequipped, so it's like an instant speed planeswalker just sitting there.
eye cant be unbanned because of eldrazi. eldrazi with just temple alone is a competitive archetype, eye just puts it over the top. besides, tron doesnt really need it.
i wouldnt undersell jace. pretty much all fairish blue decks play it. maybe less impactful than some might have hoped, but a guaranteed format staple moving forward.
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I agree with you somewhat, it’s still effective against Bogles, but after playing Eldrazi decks with Eye of Ugin many times so far in Modern it seems to still get beaten by Jund and Humans a decent amount of times (a little less than 50% I would say).
As I said, I understand that Jitte is powerful (I've played the card myself a while back and I kept losing to it with Goblins in Legacy when I couldn't remove it), but I still think that it's ban is unwarranted at this juncture. For one thing Modern isn't Legacy. The ban was put in place at the format's inception to keep it from becoming a "Legacy lite"; to help it form it's own identity instead of just playing Legacy strategies with Modern legal cards. That was seven years ago. I think we can all agree that the format has evolved significantly since then. At the very least it would be interesting to see how the current crop of Modern decks would try and incorporate it into their lists.
I do agree, however, that if we do get Jitte back Stoneforge Mystic should be out for good (though in the interest of full disclosure it's not like there was that big of a chance for it to be unbanned to begin with).
Is the card polarizing creature matchups? Doubtlessly, it would be foolish not to admit that. It's just that I don't think cramming Jitte into current decks is as easy as people make it out to be. To my mind even if they somehow could it would only represent one among many angles of attack in those matchups, not the only show in town and that's why I think it might be a safe unban, relatively speaking.
Is it a risky move to have it legal in Modern? Probably, but when compared to the simultaneous unban of BOTH Bloodbraid Elf and Jace, the Mind Sculptor is it really?
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Okay, I have a number of decks that would LOVE to be able to run Jitte, seriously love it. I have a couple for EDH that would skyrocket in price and I could flip for a nice profit. All of that said, talk of unbanning that card needs to be kill and buried under a mountain, with adamantium doors on the tomb. I am pretty generous with the cards I would unban, Jitte is not one of them. I don't care about Legacy or what it did in Standard, any deck looking to win with creature damage would start with Jitte, every single one. Affinity, Jund, Goblins.... Zoo with Jitte would beat any current aggro or midrange deck easily. The card just on the surface in broken in half without any optimization or extra effects. There are cards that I would unban after Jitte, but they are Hypergenesis and a couple Storm rituals. Not Cruise, not Eye, Jitte makes both look perfectly safe. I have tested it just in casual games where everything else was Modern legal, and my opponent wondered out loud if the set designers had been on drugs.
Tl;dr- no Jitte, no Jitte EVER.
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Eye of Ugin earned its place on the banlist. As someone who foolishly tried to play non-Eldrazi decks during Eldrazi Winter, I do not want to see that deck reborn in Modern.
So I took a look at the Modern banned list, seeing if there were any cards I'd want unbanned. After doing some thinking, I came to the following thoughts.
One of the nightmare cards for Robots to deal with is Stony Silence. Imagine Modern, where we have moved back to players actually using Affinitycreatures in a deck called Affinity. Running these lands makes your opponent's Ancient Grudges because double Stone Rains. Robots doesn't care about a Blood Moon, but with artifact lands, Stony silence just stops them from ever making mana. Honestly for me this unban would be 100% contingent on them banning Mox Opal. If they don't ban Opal it is too easy to abuse the fast mana. And banning Opal hurts decks like Lantern, and Ironworks, both decks that I love. I honestly don't realistically see the artifact lands coming off the banned list, but it was still something I thought would be interesting.
DTT got the axe along with Treasure Cruise, when the latter was proven too be a completely busted card. DTT however, while still definitely good, wasn't obscenely broken. Those who played during that time will remember decks like Burn explicitly splashed blue, just to play Treasure Cruise. However decks weren't exactly stretching to play DTT. The UU cost for it makes it so you can't just splash it in your deck. Now yes, DTT is a powerful card, and will most likely give blue decks another push in the direction of powerful options available to them. However if you look at MTGGoldfish at their metashare (which I know is not all that accurate these days, but it's the best I have) there are only 3 blue decks in the Top 12 decks being played; GDS, UW Control, and Jeskai Control. GDS most likely would not run DTT as between Angler and Tasigur you'd have way too many delve spells. And maybe UW and Jeskai control need another push, since Jace didn't seem to do much of anything for them (to the surprise of a lot of people). So maybe DTT is the card blue decks really need to do better in Modern. Who knows. But to me it looks like a safe card to at least try out in the format.
Is Fire + Grove really that good of a combo in Modern? Honestly, it's debatable. There is a chance that it will be devastating for creature decks, much like Jitte would be. There's also a chance that it does nothing like Sword. I can see some negatives to this card, but at the same time it feels woefully inadequate. Humans is by far one of the better decks in Modern right now. Maybe a card like Punishing Fire will help take it down a notch. Maybe it'll do nothing because of those pesky Kitesail Freebooters or Meddling Mages. We have a lot of really good creatures decks in Modern, perhaps we need something to push back against them a bit.
Well that's it. Those are my three thoughts on things that should/could be unbanned. Do I see #1 happening? Hell No. However I definitely see #2 & #3 as possibilities in the future. What do the rest of you think? I believe I made some sound arguments for the latter 2. The artifact lands are more of a "what-if?" scenario, but I think if they ban Opal unbanning the lands won't be too powerful or format warping for Modern.
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Eldrazi Winter, at the hands of Eye or Ugin, was the cornerstone of possibly the worst year the format has ever seen. It should never, ever, ever come back.
Are you all that unhappy with the current modern format?
Wanting unbans doesn't mean that someone is unhappy with the current format. I still think the format would be better if less powerful stuff was unbanned.
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Like others have said, Eye of Ugin is too powerful. In No Banned List Modern, Eye of Ugin Eldrazi is one of the strongest decks. That is a format that has Mental Misstep, Skullclamp, Umezawa's Jitte, and Deathrite Shaman.
*Also, did you watch the Vs. series on SCG with Ross Merriam and Todd Stevens. Ross on Twin won 1 game out of 3 vs. Todd on Eldrazi (No Banned List) just because he drew perfectly and barely eeked out a win. That's pretty much how it goes.
**Besides, if we unbanned Eye of Eldrazi while stuff like Stoneforge Mystic or Green Sun's Zenith remained on the ban list, that would be sick. It would make no sense.
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Are you all that unhappy with the current modern format?
i dont think this is the case. there just arent many topics to discuss without more information on how the format is developing. if we assume the format is in a good place, and will continue to be; then thoughts of possible future unbans is only natural since its something better done when the format is stable.
luckily we have dominaria on the horizon and a more large modern tournaments, so things are bound to change
Good points. Oh well I guess Eldrazi will just have to settle for 7th best deck in Modern (approximately)? So it goes.
I'd rather that over it being the only deck. The card is just way too powerful with the cheaper eldrazi from BfZ and Oath. The card will never see the light of day again.
I want it swapped for Temple. Both at once is a bad idea, but Temple was the much worse offenders, and generic Tron didn't do anything to deserve splash damage. I am biased, but I think it's pretty obvious that they banned the wrong card.
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Are you all that unhappy with the current modern format?
The format is pretty good right now, but that doesn't mean that it's without problems to discuss. I'm pretty sure Umezawa's Jitte isn't the answer to any of those problems though.
I also feel that Seething Song is around 5 or 6 in the next cards to potentially be unbanned, but I rarely mention it because people here put it in the same category as Deathrite Shaman or Umezawa's Jitte.
@tronix - An unban doesn't have to make the format better. If Squire was banned, it SHOULD get unbanned. Does it help the format? Not even 0.00000000000000000001%. But it should be an option for players because it doesn't fit Wizard's criteria for banning. Other cards that may get unbanned are not quite at that level obviously, but should be legal options if they don't push the format towards degeneracy.
I don't know I am no Storm expert. On paper it seems like it will be effective but if it doesn't work then yeah if I was Storm Fan I be expecting for Grapeshot to get it.
Damping Sphere is just like any other hate card for Storm, and signifigantly worse than Rule of Law, Trinisphere or Eidolon of Rhetoric, which are the hardest things to deal with by far (in a vaccum). It is very medium against them and is only good because it also hits another meta deck.
Seething Song is a very overrated card because on paper it looks scary. But in reality, Storm would probably not even play a playset and probably only play 2 or 3. It definitely adds to the consistency to the deck, but would not reshape the deck like something like Rite of Flame would do.
Many combo decks do care about Jitte, and Burn sure as hell does since a Goyf with a Jitte is unbeatable game 1, but two goyfs is beatable. Storm losing their dorks to an active jitte is a reasonable fear. Valakut can be pushed back a turn, and a Goyf with a Jitte suddenly beats Primetime in combat and threatens to gain enough life to make valakut questionable.
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Yes, I realize that unbans are not risk free, but the way things are going for Wizards, I feel that they have to take some risks. Even if Modern got a little bit worse after unbans, all it can do is direct more people towards Standard. I think it is a win-win situation for Wizards as long as they don't do anything "too risky," which I don't think BBE or Jace was.
Yes, I do want them to go down the ban list testing because a lot of cards never saw the light of day in Modern. There are fans of all types of archetypes and all types of cards. I was a HUGE Sword of the Meek fan, just to name 1. I am super happy that it is unbanned, although I do wish it's impact was stronger, lol.
*I am a fan of strong cards. Who are we to tell someone that our strong card is allowed in Modern, but there's is not, despite proof (doesn't have to be 100% conclusive) that it wouldn't mess up the format or warp it? I just felt that it was wrong that people could play their Rite of Flame at the beginning of Modern, yet, I couldn't play Sword of the Meek at the same time. I imagine there are people that feel the same way now, with different cards obviously.
**So far, all the unbans did was allow people to play new cards to the format and potentially drop Lantern down a notch. Right now, it looks to be Humans and Hollow One at number 1 and 2 by a small amount, at least in my opinion. I could certainly be wrong about Lantern though, as not enough players play it competitively for us to get good results. Even Zac Elsik has been trying his other "spicy brew of the week" before trying Dredge at the recent GP.
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Also, I still haven’t seen JTMS make a huge splash and change the Modern meta since it was unbanned and I’m sure if it will have as significant effect at Bloodbraid Elf. Perhaps it will with more time? I’m just not seeing it currently, but I hope I’m wrong since I love the card.
Honestly, it took 1 game of legacy for me to realise we do not want Jitte in modern.
I've played modern for ~3 years now, I've played 10 matches of legacy, of those 3 games were against D&T, 5 jace decks and then 2 combo decks.
I walked away from that thinking jace would be fine for modern, but jitte was a serious issue and should never be unbanned, the fact it was combat damage, not damage to a player, really made me understand how nuts it was.
IMO SFM was always more unlikely of an unban than jace/BBE, just cause of the power of tutor + uncounterability of SFM activation.
the main things to realise with jitte is that it's ANY combat damage (including blocking), so if they get a swing in, you have to block, and have your creature die, before damage resolves.
the other things is that you can remove counters from jitte at instant speed, and when it's unequipped, so it's like an instant speed planeswalker just sitting there.
i wouldnt undersell jace. pretty much all fairish blue decks play it. maybe less impactful than some might have hoped, but a guaranteed format staple moving forward.
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WCDeath and Taxes(sold)Also make what competitive again?
I do agree, however, that if we do get Jitte back Stoneforge Mystic should be out for good (though in the interest of full disclosure it's not like there was that big of a chance for it to be unbanned to begin with).
Is the card polarizing creature matchups? Doubtlessly, it would be foolish not to admit that. It's just that I don't think cramming Jitte into current decks is as easy as people make it out to be. To my mind even if they somehow could it would only represent one among many angles of attack in those matchups, not the only show in town and that's why I think it might be a safe unban, relatively speaking.
Is it a risky move to have it legal in Modern? Probably, but when compared to the simultaneous unban of BOTH Bloodbraid Elf and Jace, the Mind Sculptor is it really?
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Tl;dr- no Jitte, no Jitte EVER.
Eye of Ugin earned its place on the banlist. As someone who foolishly tried to play non-Eldrazi decks during Eldrazi Winter, I do not want to see that deck reborn in Modern.
1. The Full Artifact Land Cycle, however only if Mox Opal gets banned
One of the nightmare cards for Robots to deal with is Stony Silence. Imagine Modern, where we have moved back to players actually using Affinity creatures in a deck called Affinity. Running these lands makes your opponent's Ancient Grudges because double Stone Rains. Robots doesn't care about a Blood Moon, but with artifact lands, Stony silence just stops them from ever making mana. Honestly for me this unban would be 100% contingent on them banning Mox Opal. If they don't ban Opal it is too easy to abuse the fast mana. And banning Opal hurts decks like Lantern, and Ironworks, both decks that I love. I honestly don't realistically see the artifact lands coming off the banned list, but it was still something I thought would be interesting.
2. Dig Through Time
DTT got the axe along with Treasure Cruise, when the latter was proven too be a completely busted card. DTT however, while still definitely good, wasn't obscenely broken. Those who played during that time will remember decks like Burn explicitly splashed blue, just to play Treasure Cruise. However decks weren't exactly stretching to play DTT. The UU cost for it makes it so you can't just splash it in your deck. Now yes, DTT is a powerful card, and will most likely give blue decks another push in the direction of powerful options available to them. However if you look at MTGGoldfish at their metashare (which I know is not all that accurate these days, but it's the best I have) there are only 3 blue decks in the Top 12 decks being played; GDS, UW Control, and Jeskai Control. GDS most likely would not run DTT as between Angler and Tasigur you'd have way too many delve spells. And maybe UW and Jeskai control need another push, since Jace didn't seem to do much of anything for them (to the surprise of a lot of people). So maybe DTT is the card blue decks really need to do better in Modern. Who knows. But to me it looks like a safe card to at least try out in the format.
3. Punishing Fire
Is Fire + Grove really that good of a combo in Modern? Honestly, it's debatable. There is a chance that it will be devastating for creature decks, much like Jitte would be. There's also a chance that it does nothing like Sword. I can see some negatives to this card, but at the same time it feels woefully inadequate. Humans is by far one of the better decks in Modern right now. Maybe a card like Punishing Fire will help take it down a notch. Maybe it'll do nothing because of those pesky Kitesail Freebooters or Meddling Mages. We have a lot of really good creatures decks in Modern, perhaps we need something to push back against them a bit.
Well that's it. Those are my three thoughts on things that should/could be unbanned. Do I see #1 happening? Hell No. However I definitely see #2 & #3 as possibilities in the future. What do the rest of you think? I believe I made some sound arguments for the latter 2. The artifact lands are more of a "what-if?" scenario, but I think if they ban Opal unbanning the lands won't be too powerful or format warping for Modern.
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Wanting unbans doesn't mean that someone is unhappy with the current format. I still think the format would be better if less powerful stuff was unbanned.
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**Besides, if we unbanned Eye of Eldrazi while stuff like Stoneforge Mystic or Green Sun's Zenith remained on the ban list, that would be sick. It would make no sense.
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Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)i dont think this is the case. there just arent many topics to discuss without more information on how the format is developing. if we assume the format is in a good place, and will continue to be; then thoughts of possible future unbans is only natural since its something better done when the format is stable.
luckily we have dominaria on the horizon and a more large modern tournaments, so things are bound to change
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WCDeath and Taxes(sold)I'd rather that over it being the only deck. The card is just way too powerful with the cheaper eldrazi from BfZ and Oath. The card will never see the light of day again.
The format is pretty good right now, but that doesn't mean that it's without problems to discuss. I'm pretty sure Umezawa's Jitte isn't the answer to any of those problems though.
Damping Sphere is just like any other hate card for Storm, and signifigantly worse than Rule of Law, Trinisphere or Eidolon of Rhetoric, which are the hardest things to deal with by far (in a vaccum). It is very medium against them and is only good because it also hits another meta deck.
Seething Song is a very overrated card because on paper it looks scary. But in reality, Storm would probably not even play a playset and probably only play 2 or 3. It definitely adds to the consistency to the deck, but would not reshape the deck like something like Rite of Flame would do.
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