You guys can joke and laugh all you want but when I say I want to play a tempo blue feeling flash deck you know what I mean and it isn't represented in gds. I play it because I like fair decks, but it is clearly a midrange deck and doesn't capture what blue players want.
Death's Shadow is a Delver away from being every tempo deck I've ever seen so I honestly don't know what you're asking for.
Trade Street Wraith for a free cantrip spell that flips Delver, trade TS/IOK for reasonable counterspells and the space to run full 4 bolts, and I'm a happy camper. The facts that Wraith is not a spell and can't flip Delver, there's basically no good 0-1cmc card draw in blue, and well-costed counterspells are horrendously narrow or totally unreliable, is why tempo Delver decks are competitively pushed out by Thoughtseize/Shadow decks.
Early Delver without free/cheap protection is bad. Delver not flipping is bad. Young Pyromancer without free spells is bad. Bolt-Snap-Bolt is hard to pull off when your deck runs 0-1 Bolts.
You guys can joke and laugh all you want but when I say I want to play a tempo blue feeling flash deck you know what I mean and it isn't represented in gds. I play it because I like fair decks, but it is clearly a midrange deck and doesn't capture what blue players want.
Death's Shadow is a Delver away from being every tempo deck I've ever seen so I honestly don't know what you're asking for.
Targeted discard spells do not go in tempo decks. Being forced to use them because actual tempo plays suck just pushes the deck toward midrange. Tempo decks also traditionally eek out damage when they can get it (bolt-snap-bolt) not try to bash in with an 8/8 twice.
If reflector mate was a 2/4 he might be good enough, monastery mentor was close to being good, spell queller actually has a lot of potential, it is just frustrating that midrange continues to get powerful spells and true tempo ones are just slightly underpowered. I believe there is a balance that can be achieved in modern that we are far from where the decks I appreciate are better represented. I just don't think wizards is accidentally going to stumble upon it and they've admitted to not testing or thinking about modern in card design.
The format is better than it has been in the past but that is no reason to not want to work towards better.
Let's be real guys, it's hard to deny Grixis Shadow is currently the best deck. But don't let the "fair, interactive, skill-intensive magic" banner deceive you, this is a format where the best deck gets banned, plain and simple. I hope the GP Top8 performance metric doesn't get there, but if it does... I can already see people clamoring "This is the Twin ban all over again!" Many live under the impression that these kind of decks get a "free pass" if they become dominant, but they don't. "Decks that are this strong can hurt diversity" (regardless of their effect on both metagame and gameplay).
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Banning the best deck for simply being the best deck is, and always has been, an utterly horrible idea.
That scares me. I know it's silly, but between the results, mtgo and top 8s, and now LSV himself, I feel like that could push WOTC to ban a shadow piece.
Want a tier 1 deck playing counters and snaps and card draw? Grixis shadow.
Too aggressive and want more control? Play jeskai control or u/w or fae.
Want something blue to scratch the combo itch twin left? Storm. Turns.
None of those to your liking? Maybe the problem isn't the format.
It's clear we have vastly different opinions on how decks operate and play, and the "play this or shut up" attitude is getting old. I've been playing Shadow now for about 3 months and have been fairly successful with it (also got most of the cards signed at GP Vegas). But that doesn't mean there shouldn't be better options for those wanting to play a tempo/reactive deck. Storm lives announcement to announcement, crossing its fingers it doesn't receive another ban, Turns is about as unfun to play with or against as Lantern, Jesaki/UW/and Fae are all pretty competitively terrible and have been for years. So it's Shadow or bust, which is what I've been doing, even if I would rather be playing Remands and Pyromancers and Delvers and Cliques.
I'm not saying "play this or shut up", i'm saying there are several viable decks available depending on your play-style or needs. You're saying there should be "better" options for people wanting to play tempo/reactive decks. Better as in more successful than GDS? Because that is an over-the-top request. Better as in more reactive and control-like? There are options, which i've listed.
You can say jeskai/fae/uw are terrible, but they've all had good finishes recently. Have they been top 8-ing regularly? No. But again, control decks should absolutely be a meta-call, because you're looking to control a specific meta. Pick your build for the predicted meta and go for it, but it's hardly a reason to get mad that your control deck that did well against a field of GDS, Jund, Hatebears, and Ad Nauseam doesn't have the same results when a month later people shift to CoCo, tron, dredge, and living end. You have to prepare.
I agree, man, I said Grixis Shadow was very blue, but people just then people told me that if it's a blue deck then so was infect.
I don't care if the core of the deck is black, it counters, filters and snaps for those black cards. Red feels like it's splashed in, if anything
Banning the best deck for simply being the best deck is, and always has been, an utterly horrible idea.
That scares me. I know it's silly, but between the results, mtgo and top 8s, and now LSV himself, I feel like that could push WOTC to ban a shadow piece.
Wizards makes ban decisions on the backs of gut feelings, perception and image, and the word of people like him. I think it's a stupid and horrible idea to ban the deck, but I've already made peace with the fact that the deck is living on borrowed time.
If the deck has another tournament before August where 2 Grixis decks make the top 8 in a tournament, I'm selling off all of my wraiths, shadows and baubles. I just absolutely don't trust WOTC. I believe that WOTC will take LSV's suggestion with a lot of weight. I also imagine there's a lot of results on MTGO we aren't seeing that they will sight.
If Fame/Claim end up being good, I do believe it'll push WOTC to take action
Please bare in my hand I am not hoping for any of this
I'm waiting for huge unbans to happen that I know more realistically will happens in years than months.
If the deck has another tournament before August where 2 Grixis decks make the top 8 in a tournament, I'm selling off all of my wraiths, shadows and baubles. I just absolutely don't trust WOTC. I believe that WOTC will take LSV's suggestion with a lot of weight. I also imagine there's a lot of results on MTGO we aren't seeing that they will sight.
If Fame/Claim end up being good, I do believe it'll push WOTC to take action
Please bare in my hand I am not hoping for any of this
I'm waiting for huge unbans to happen that I know more realistically will happens in years than months.
Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. Wizards is extremely likely to ban a deck they perceive as the best, especially in Modern.
Which is dumb and frustrating. We just ban the best deck?
I'm not sure Grixis Shadow can survive even if they ban Wraiths, the dismembers won't make up for the lack of cycling/filtering.
2016 wasn't a great year in modern; Eldrazi Winter, dredge and infect.
At this point, I'd love for WOTC to open the floodgates and unban
BBE, SFM and Twin.
Obviously, WOTC wouldn't do this, and even if they did, they'd spread it out as ways to shake the meta up.
I do think the moment Shadow is banned, we'll see about a month and a half of a healthy meta and see a very linear one follow soon after.
I really hate that LSV made that video, he doesn't even like modern.
I played DSJ, it was good. It got hated out quick though
I'm just mainly jamming Abzan midrange, I'm way too paranoid in playing Grixis Shadow. I could easily afford the pieces, and even contemplated it, but I don't have faith in WOTC. I sold off a lot of my modern staples to foil out GBx since I'd rather focus on a deck that has smaller chances of a ban that I can improve upon
I sold off a lot of my modern staples to foil out GBx since I'd rather focus on a deck that has smaller chances of a ban that I can improve upon
That's what I thought as I foiled out every piece of the main deck and most of the sideboard of Grixis Delver, FNM promo foil Probes and all... Nothing is safe in this format and I won't be doing that again.
You didn't really lose out on that too much---I don't think the foil probes were that expensive.
Snaps, tarns, visions, etc, isn't going anywhere anytime soon and look nice pimped out
I do lose some sympathy when people keep picking the clear cut best deck repeatedly, and do it not for just spiking tournaments that they regularly grind at (not that I'm calling you one of those people).
Are there any major tournaments streamed before the august ban announcement, I'd like to see what the next few top 32's look like
Banning the best deck for simply being the best deck is, and always has been, an utterly horrible idea.
That scares me. I know it's silly, but between the results, mtgo and top 8s, and now LSV himself, I feel like that could push WOTC to ban a shadow piece.
Wizards makes ban decisions on the backs of gut feelings, perception and image, and the word of people like him. I think it's a stupid and horrible idea to ban the deck, but I've already made peace with the fact that the deck is living on borrowed time.
Yeah I think lsv is top 3 if not #1 for wotc influencers.
I sold off a lot of my modern staples to foil out GBx since I'd rather focus on a deck that has smaller chances of a ban that I can improve upon
That's what I thought as I foiled out every piece of the main deck and most of the sideboard of Grixis Delver, FNM promo foil Probes and all... Nothing is safe in this format and I won't be doing that again.
This is super, super true. Foiling out decks, especially in Modern, is a very risky proposition. Take it from someone who has Breach, Grixis Shadow except Street Wraiths, Grishoalbrand, Abzan Company, and Jund foiled out. It's just not smart. And I'm looking into selling a lot of it...
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I sold off a lot of my modern staples to foil out GBx since I'd rather focus on a deck that has smaller chances of a ban that I can improve upon
That's what I thought as I foiled out every piece of the main deck and most of the sideboard of Grixis Delver, FNM promo foil Probes and all... Nothing is safe in this format and I won't be doing that again.
This is super, super true. Foiling out decks, especially in Modern, is a very risky proposition. Take it from someone who has Breach, Grixis Shadow except Street Wraiths, Grishoalbrand, Abzan Company, and Jund foiled out. It's just not smart. And I'm looking into selling a lot of it...
Why did you foil out so many decks before realizing that?!
I was mainly just foiling out my main archetype. Jund/Junk/Death Shadow Jund all intersect in it. I have no intentions of foiling out non-golgari colors, like you said, way too risky.
Modern is too volatile to foil out, the ban-list is becoming a rotating door at this point.
Are there any major tournaments streamed before the august ban announcement, I'd like to see what the next few top 32's look like
SCG Invitational (Modern/Standard) next weekend and GP Birmingham and GP Sao Paulo (2nd week of August).
Ok, good, the GP Sao Paulo should give enough time on whether selling out of Shadow pieces is a good idea, let's at least see if Shadow even proves to be oppressive in 3 major tournaments.
If it manages to squeeze in a top 8 in two of the three, thats an issue
If it has 2 to 3 copies on any of those, thats also quite disastrous.
Blah, more click bait crap from pros, I really wish they would cut this out. My only hope is that a lack of a Modern Pro Tour will stay their hand, given it was the source of some of their more questionable bans.
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Blah, more click bait crap from pros, I really wish they would cut this out. My only hope is that a lack of a Modern Pro Tour will stay their hand, given it was the source of some of their more questionable bans.
Well, we already have 3 cards banned after the last Modern Pro Tour so it doesn't look like it'll change. If the deck's GP results show it's too good, it'll probably be gone by next January. I'm not calling for a ban, just want people to wake up. Everybody is like "it's fair, interactive and skill-intensive, totally safe". Not true at all.
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You didn't really lose out on that too much---I don't think the foil probes were that expensive.
Snaps, tarns, visions, etc, isn't going anywhere anytime soon and look nice pimped out
Yeah, it's not the end of the world, but it does add up seeing binder pages full of foil Rav Remands, Delvers, Spell Snares, Electrolyzes, Pyromancers, Cryptic Commands, Vendilion Cliques, and of course, Twins, Exarchs, and Pestermites. Even the foil Blood Moons don't come out to play anymore. At least the lands and bolts and visions and snaps get to stick around... for now.
I do lose some sympathy when people keep picking the clear cut best deck repeatedly, and do it not for just spiking tournaments that they regularly grind at (not that I'm calling you one of those people).
Agreed. Buying into the best deck because it's the best deck is a recipe for stress and misery at every B&R announcement.
If you're a grinder I think buying into the best deck is fine
If you're a normal guy that plays his fnms and maybe an occasional local open then you should really be cautious. If Gkorou here bought into Grixis Shadow and it got banned I'd probably be a little lulzy.
Playing the top tier deck is fine, too, however if it keeps becoming a pattern, you may want to think, "do I truly love the deck, or because it wins so much?"
Not that I will tell anyone how to play or what they should or shouldn't think is fun
I had most of Death Shadow Jund, so it really wasn't a big deal.
Wescoe showed that just playing your deck/archetype can get you far, Death and Taxes/Hate Bears has been a consistent 2.5 tier deck in modern, and he's topping 8 in tournaments. He brought in some spice with Crusader. Reid Duke shocked the community playing Jund. He's primarily a jund player with a little elves and storm in modern.
Enough luck, skill and variance can get you far into a tournament if you've jammed with what you're familiar with for a long time. I was happy to see Wescoe not play Shadow, other decks in the format can make it through.
I sold off a lot of my modern staples to foil out GBx since I'd rather focus on a deck that has smaller chances of a ban that I can improve upon
That's what I thought as I foiled out every piece of the main deck and most of the sideboard of Grixis Delver, FNM promo foil Probes and all... Nothing is safe in this format and I won't be doing that again.
This is super, super true. Foiling out decks, especially in Modern, is a very risky proposition. Take it from someone who has Breach, Grixis Shadow except Street Wraiths, Grishoalbrand, Abzan Company, and Jund foiled out. It's just not smart. And I'm looking into selling a lot of it...
Why did you foil out so many decks before realizing that?!
I was mainly just foiling out my main archetype. Jund/Junk/Death Shadow Jund all intersect in it. I have no intentions of foiling out non-golgari colors, like you said, way too risky.
Modern is too volatile to foil out, the ban-list is becoming a rotating door at this point.
Bad habit. I used to foil out decks near the end of their Standard existence, like UW Delver for example, off earnings that I won with the deck. I got into the bad habit and have used a lot of earnings from playing Modern to foil out decks. Then I've used foils and profit that I used to buy more foils. The problem is that I look at a potential deck that I have 50-60% foiled and think it won't be much to finish it. Then it ends up being $500-1,000 more. It's happened many times over.
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
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I do lose some sympathy when people keep picking the clear cut best deck repeatedly, and do it not for just spiking tournaments that they regularly grind at (not that I'm calling you one of those people).
/sigh, I started playing the deck back when everyone was saying it was a strictly worse version of the Jund build and it was a mistake to play it, but I just wanted to play a good Snapcaster deck again so I didn't mind playing something slightly sub-par but still competitive. F*ck me, right?
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If it manages to squeeze in a top 8 in two of the three, thats an issue
If it has 2 to 3 copies on any of those, thats also quite disastrous.
I don't think it has to be that low. Remember, Twin was banned for averaging 1.5 top 8s per GP/PT in 2015. Several decks have averaged 1 top8 per GP and been fine. If we don't include GP Vancouver, where Shadow decks caught people by surprise, Grixis Shadow has 2 top 8s in 3 GPs. With the two upcoming GPs, 3 copies total should be ok, that would average to 1 top 8 per GP. More than 3 between the two GPs is where we're gonna be in the danger zone.
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Trade Street Wraith for a free cantrip spell that flips Delver, trade TS/IOK for reasonable counterspells and the space to run full 4 bolts, and I'm a happy camper. The facts that Wraith is not a spell and can't flip Delver, there's basically no good 0-1cmc card draw in blue, and well-costed counterspells are horrendously narrow or totally unreliable, is why tempo Delver decks are competitively pushed out by Thoughtseize/Shadow decks.
Early Delver without free/cheap protection is bad. Delver not flipping is bad. Young Pyromancer without free spells is bad. Bolt-Snap-Bolt is hard to pull off when your deck runs 0-1 Bolts.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Targeted discard spells do not go in tempo decks. Being forced to use them because actual tempo plays suck just pushes the deck toward midrange. Tempo decks also traditionally eek out damage when they can get it (bolt-snap-bolt) not try to bash in with an 8/8 twice.
If reflector mate was a 2/4 he might be good enough, monastery mentor was close to being good, spell queller actually has a lot of potential, it is just frustrating that midrange continues to get powerful spells and true tempo ones are just slightly underpowered. I believe there is a balance that can be achieved in modern that we are far from where the decks I appreciate are better represented. I just don't think wizards is accidentally going to stumble upon it and they've admitted to not testing or thinking about modern in card design.
The format is better than it has been in the past but that is no reason to not want to work towards better.
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That scares me. I know it's silly, but between the results, mtgo and top 8s, and now LSV himself, I feel like that could push WOTC to ban a shadow piece.
I agree, man, I said Grixis Shadow was very blue, but people just then people told me that if it's a blue deck then so was infect.
I don't care if the core of the deck is black, it counters, filters and snaps for those black cards. Red feels like it's splashed in, if anything
Wizards makes ban decisions on the backs of gut feelings, perception and image, and the word of people like him. I think it's a stupid and horrible idea to ban the deck, but I've already made peace with the fact that the deck is living on borrowed time.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
If Fame/Claim end up being good, I do believe it'll push WOTC to take action
Please bare in my hand I am not hoping for any of this
I'm waiting for huge unbans to happen that I know more realistically will happens in years than months.
Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. Wizards is extremely likely to ban a deck they perceive as the best, especially in Modern.
I'm not sure Grixis Shadow can survive even if they ban Wraiths, the dismembers won't make up for the lack of cycling/filtering.
2016 wasn't a great year in modern; Eldrazi Winter, dredge and infect.
At this point, I'd love for WOTC to open the floodgates and unban
BBE, SFM and Twin.
Obviously, WOTC wouldn't do this, and even if they did, they'd spread it out as ways to shake the meta up.
I do think the moment Shadow is banned, we'll see about a month and a half of a healthy meta and see a very linear one follow soon after.
I really hate that LSV made that video, he doesn't even like modern.
I played DSJ, it was good. It got hated out quick though
I'm just mainly jamming Abzan midrange, I'm way too paranoid in playing Grixis Shadow. I could easily afford the pieces, and even contemplated it, but I don't have faith in WOTC. I sold off a lot of my modern staples to foil out GBx since I'd rather focus on a deck that has smaller chances of a ban that I can improve upon
That's what I thought as I foiled out every piece of the main deck and most of the sideboard of Grixis Delver, FNM promo foil Probes and all... Nothing is safe in this format and I won't be doing that again.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Snaps, tarns, visions, etc, isn't going anywhere anytime soon and look nice pimped out
I do lose some sympathy when people keep picking the clear cut best deck repeatedly, and do it not for just spiking tournaments that they regularly grind at (not that I'm calling you one of those people).
Are there any major tournaments streamed before the august ban announcement, I'd like to see what the next few top 32's look like
Yeah I think lsv is top 3 if not #1 for wotc influencers.
This is super, super true. Foiling out decks, especially in Modern, is a very risky proposition. Take it from someone who has Breach, Grixis Shadow except Street Wraiths, Grishoalbrand, Abzan Company, and Jund foiled out. It's just not smart. And I'm looking into selling a lot of it...
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)SCG Invitational (Modern/Standard) next weekend and GP Birmingham and GP Sao Paulo (2nd week of August).
Frontier: UBR Grixis Control | BRG Jund Delirium
Why did you foil out so many decks before realizing that?!
I was mainly just foiling out my main archetype. Jund/Junk/Death Shadow Jund all intersect in it. I have no intentions of foiling out non-golgari colors, like you said, way too risky.
Modern is too volatile to foil out, the ban-list is becoming a rotating door at this point.
Ok, good, the GP Sao Paulo should give enough time on whether selling out of Shadow pieces is a good idea, let's at least see if Shadow even proves to be oppressive in 3 major tournaments.
If it manages to squeeze in a top 8 in two of the three, thats an issue
If it has 2 to 3 copies on any of those, thats also quite disastrous.
In the yard: RUG Delver, Kiki-Chord, Grixis Twin, Mardu Control, Smallpox, Jeskai Control, Jeskai Delver, Assault Loam, Elves, Deathcloud, Eggs, Storm
Frontier: UBR Grixis Control | BRG Jund Delirium
Agreed. Buying into the best deck because it's the best deck is a recipe for stress and misery at every B&R announcement.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
If you're a normal guy that plays his fnms and maybe an occasional local open then you should really be cautious. If Gkorou here bought into Grixis Shadow and it got banned I'd probably be a little lulzy.
Playing the top tier deck is fine, too, however if it keeps becoming a pattern, you may want to think, "do I truly love the deck, or because it wins so much?"
Not that I will tell anyone how to play or what they should or shouldn't think is fun
I had most of Death Shadow Jund, so it really wasn't a big deal.
Wescoe showed that just playing your deck/archetype can get you far, Death and Taxes/Hate Bears has been a consistent 2.5 tier deck in modern, and he's topping 8 in tournaments. He brought in some spice with Crusader. Reid Duke shocked the community playing Jund. He's primarily a jund player with a little elves and storm in modern.
Enough luck, skill and variance can get you far into a tournament if you've jammed with what you're familiar with for a long time. I was happy to see Wescoe not play Shadow, other decks in the format can make it through.
Bad habit. I used to foil out decks near the end of their Standard existence, like UW Delver for example, off earnings that I won with the deck. I got into the bad habit and have used a lot of earnings from playing Modern to foil out decks. Then I've used foils and profit that I used to buy more foils. The problem is that I look at a potential deck that I have 50-60% foiled and think it won't be much to finish it. Then it ends up being $500-1,000 more. It's happened many times over.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)UBR Grixis Shadow UBR
UR Izzet Phoenix UR
UW UW Control UW
GB GB Rock GB
Commander
BG Meren of Clan Nel Toth BG
BGUW Atraxa, Praetor's Voice BGUW
UBR Grixis Shadow UBR
UR Izzet Phoenix UR
UW UW Control UW
GB GB Rock GB
Commander
BG Meren of Clan Nel Toth BG
BGUW Atraxa, Praetor's Voice BGUW
Sorry for the caps. This really wound me up this morning, irresponsible click bait article.
Suggesting banning a deck for a card that is yet to get to players hands.
Suggesting answers and disrupting a player 4 times in a game was bad.
LSV really went down in my estimation today.
Legacy - LED Dredge, ANT & WDnT
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UR Izzet Phoenix UR
UW UW Control UW
GB GB Rock GB
Commander
BG Meren of Clan Nel Toth BG
BGUW Atraxa, Praetor's Voice BGUW