Ok this might be the best ban list update they have ever done. I am very happy with this result. They dont kill off the Eldrazi and they unban a couple cards. I still have extreme doubts that this will be enough for blue to remotely fill the void that twin left but its a damn good start *and hey I could be wrong*
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SonofaBith - Wizards was so excited about making the packaging for Modern Masters 2 recyclable, they decided to make most of the rares and all but 1 of the UC's recycle-bin ready too. Convenient!
They specifically mentioned BBE being banned as part of the rationale unbanning AV was ok, so hopefully we can put to bed speculation or justification for a BBE unban.
So fast Eldrazi, Tron and Jund got hit to a greater or lesser extent.
Midrange Eldrazi might still be a thing.
Maindeck artifact destruction became more important and any mid to long game decks that can splash blue got powered up.
Seems like there will still be a premium on blowing away weenie creatures since beatdown decks are going to have to be very fast, but it looks like a fun format.
Thanks WOTC, doot doot. I forgive you for banning Twin completely now that you've unbanned AV and Sword.
Like everyone else, I really want to see where the two unbans will lead. I think the biggest contender for AV is Faeries, given that it did play the card in Extended. UWR could use it, but Faeries with AV should beat UWR with AV one-on-one. And then there's the Goblin Dark-Dwellers "combo". You can also Bring to Light into AV.
The best deck for Sword seems to be Tezzeret with Mox Opal, or UW Tron. Keep in mind Tezzeret doesn't have Chrome Mox. Tron has Gifts and Academy Ruins to find both pieces of the combo, so you can make do with just 1 Sword + 1 Foundry. It also has ridiculous mana production, it's Tron after all. I tried it in Eggs and gave up, but I'll just point out again that Thopter+Sword goes infinite with Krark-Clan Ironworks. Lantern...won't play it, Zac Elsik said so.
This also marks the first time they've unbanned a card NOT just before a PT. Two bans in a row will do that.
Tron players...too bad. Well, if you're U Tron, you don't play Eye, and if you're UW, you now have ThopterSword to try out, or the old fallback of Mindslaver.
ITT dumb people who actually believe that by banning Twin WoTC is going to unban any of the control cards on the ban list and or print good new control cards in standard. No, U is pretty much worse than W now, and I don't see that changing any time soon. WoTC has a seething hatred against control because of a perceived hit on their bottom line when it is at not terrible levels. Too many naive people on MTGSalvation lmao...
So dramatic. Tron will be fine. I'm not sure Eldrazi will take a big enough hit, though.
That is my concern also. However, with these two unbans I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. If problems do emerge they can be fixed with the next scheduled announcement.
Those concerns aside, time to brew!
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I don't know, but feel that AV is pretty overrated... We shall see.
Sword unban would probably have a bigger impact.
I feel like they are both pretty overrated but its definitely a step in the right direction and if these to cards end up doing nothing for the format it could convince wizards to be more aggressive in its unbans.
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Tron still has its explosive/unfair draws. It lost the late game lock, but should survive.
I have to applaud them for finally taking more risks. This slows down Eldrazi but probably keeps the deck alive, while also enable some new decks. Yes, AV and Sword could lead to some decks that are just too good, but it's the right time to take that chance.
So, perhaps my pet deck, UB control, can exist as a deck with Visions, right? Right?
Who am i kidding... However, UB fairies, UWR and Esper just got a new toy to play. Interesting changes.
So, perhaps my pet deck, UB control, can exist as a deck with Visions, right? Right?
Who am i kidding... However, UB fairies, UWR and Esper just got a new toy to play. Interesting changes.
There's just the wee problem of needing to scrounge up like $200 at the absolute BULL***** prices people are asking for with AV unbanned.
I swear if people actually play ball and buy them at inflated prices it'll kill Blue in this format. Hoping for AV to show up in Eternal Masters now.
GW Rhys the Redeemed EDH
RUGAnimar, Soul of Elements EDH
WBRAlesha, Who Smiles at Death EDH
Edit: **** YEAH EYE OF ******* UGIN BANNED
2nd edit: Thank you WotC
RBUGrixis ControlUBR
GUSimic MerfolkUG
WUUW ControlUW
RBUGrixis ControlUBR
BUUB MillUB
Colorless Eldrazi Tron
WRBurnRW
GUSimic MerfolkUG
UMono U TurnsU
WGGenesis Wave EnchantressGW
So fast Eldrazi, Tron and Jund got hit to a greater or lesser extent.
Midrange Eldrazi might still be a thing.
Maindeck artifact destruction became more important and any mid to long game decks that can splash blue got powered up.
Seems like there will still be a premium on blowing away weenie creatures since beatdown decks are going to have to be very fast, but it looks like a fun format.
Like everyone else, I really want to see where the two unbans will lead. I think the biggest contender for AV is Faeries, given that it did play the card in Extended. UWR could use it, but Faeries with AV should beat UWR with AV one-on-one. And then there's the Goblin Dark-Dwellers "combo". You can also Bring to Light into AV.
The best deck for Sword seems to be Tezzeret with Mox Opal, or UW Tron. Keep in mind Tezzeret doesn't have Chrome Mox. Tron has Gifts and Academy Ruins to find both pieces of the combo, so you can make do with just 1 Sword + 1 Foundry. It also has ridiculous mana production, it's Tron after all. I tried it in Eggs and gave up, but I'll just point out again that Thopter+Sword goes infinite with Krark-Clan Ironworks. Lantern...won't play it, Zac Elsik said so.
This also marks the first time they've unbanned a card NOT just before a PT. Two bans in a row will do that.
Tron players...too bad. Well, if you're U Tron, you don't play Eye, and if you're UW, you now have ThopterSword to try out, or the old fallback of Mindslaver.
lmao indeed
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Big Johnny.
Sword unban would probably have a bigger impact.
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
Card for card this is exactly what I wanted.
No more eye of ugin and we get back AV and sword of the meek!
So dramatic. Tron will be fine. I'm not sure Eldrazi will take a big enough hit, though.
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That is my concern also. However, with these two unbans I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. If problems do emerge they can be fixed with the next scheduled announcement.
Those concerns aside, time to brew!
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Downside is I'll have to break my cube to take thopther sword out D:.. I am glad I got at least one.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
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I guess Twin had to die so Visions could live.
I feel like they are both pretty overrated but its definitely a step in the right direction and if these to cards end up doing nothing for the format it could convince wizards to be more aggressive in its unbans.
GW Rhys the Redeemed EDH
RUGAnimar, Soul of Elements EDH
WBRAlesha, Who Smiles at Death EDH
I have to applaud them for finally taking more risks. This slows down Eldrazi but probably keeps the deck alive, while also enable some new decks. Yes, AV and Sword could lead to some decks that are just too good, but it's the right time to take that chance.
Although my guess is that they don't want Modern to outstrip Standard/Limited. It's pretty much an open secret but not disclosed.
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
Aaron Forsythe mentioned a while back that Ancestral Vision was not safe to unban as long as Twin was legal.
Now if only I have 3x more copies of Ancestral Visions...
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AV is the the power of blue mana. Really glad WoTC released it from jail.
Draw 3 cards is back in modern. ^______^
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Who am i kidding... However, UB fairies, UWR and Esper just got a new toy to play. Interesting changes.
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Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
unfortunately I did not buy meeks or AVs prior. But thankfully I was able to pick up 3 LP german AVs and one LP english from SCG before they sold out,
There's just the wee problem of needing to scrounge up like $200 at the absolute BULL***** prices people are asking for with AV unbanned.
I swear if people actually play ball and buy them at inflated prices it'll kill Blue in this format. Hoping for AV to show up in Eternal Masters now.
UWRjeskai nahiri UWR
UBRgrixis titi UBR
UBRgrixis delverUBR
UR ur kikimite UR
EDH
RUG Riku of Two Reflections RUG
UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose UBR
UBRGYidris, Maelstrom Wielder UBRG
UBRJeleva, Nephalia's ScourgeUBR
Modern - Cheeri0s (building), Belcher (building), Lantern (building), UW Control (building)
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