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What cards, if any, do you think should be BANNED in Modern in the next announcement?
Poll: What cards, if any, do you think should be banned?
Ended Sep 28, 2015
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Ended Sep 28, 2015
Current decks of choice:
Vintage: Shops.
Legacy: Lands.
Modern: Lantern.
I am probably also the only guy who thinks lightning bolt is kinda dumb and we'd be better without it, but that's the wayyyyy the news goes.
UW Ephara Hatebears [Primer], GB Gitrog Lands, BRU Inalla Combo-Control, URG Maelstrom Wanderer Landfall
The question isn't what Will get banned, the question is what Should get banned, so what Wizards will or won't actually do isn't really relevant,
I would also like to see Goyf getting test banned or something, i wonder how big the outcry would be, certainly now when its been reprinted twice in such a short time. More variety!
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Well, i wonder how the decks would look like, that's mostly the reason. And i did say 'test banned', but if they didn't go out with this beeing a test bann ppl would sell their goyfs so i guess it isn't the best idea. But i would like to see some tournaments where goyf isn't legal.
Its not a big thing really, it would be interesting, atleast for me.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
First, Wizards can you stop printing burn cards in red that say " can't gain life" I'm honestly %100 ok with every other burn card besides Skullcrack and Atarka's Command.
Secondly I'd like to see a ban to Cranial Plating, I believe it makes the deck way too explosive in a deck that can already dump out it's entire hand on turn one, plus currently Aggro archetype decks make up 55% of the field of all decks that top 8 with Affinity being the highest Deck Choice for aggro making up 11% of the field, I'm pretty sure it's time.
Stay reasonable, be mindful of your expectations and don't feed the trolls.
Doomsdayin'
I play RG Tron, it should say something.
preboard i have 1 Spellskite and my 4 Karns that has to resolve on turn 3 but alot depends on the twin players hand. Oh and i do have Oblivion Stones that's strong against twin.
Atleast i got some answers.
After sideboar i got other cards like Rending Volley, another Spellskite, 4 Nature's Claim so it gets better.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Suggesting that Twin should get banned just because your specific deck has a hard time with it, well... that isn't fair. You make me wonder how many voters have voted for what they truly think would be good for the format as a whole, as opposed to voting for whatever they would like to see banned so that they can win more with the deck they're personally playing. I sure didn't vote to ban the Urza lands just because I play Jund, but I guess I'm naïve.
Stay reasonable, be mindful of your expectations and don't feed the trolls.
Doomsdayin'
I understand what you mean, i just find Twin quite boring, its a strong deck an all but then again there's alot of people that hates tron. Big colorless spells are my thing and there are alot of people that does not like that playstyle. At GP Copenhagen 5 out of 6 of my matches were twin matches, not unwinnable since i managed to never lose 0-2 except against Burn for the last matchup. Like you said, there are some decks Tron has alot of problems against and there should be a balance.
There were some hype moments in some of the matches tho.
We do have alot of twin players at our store as well so im used to the struggle.
Im sorry if my post angered you in any way but why i voted for twin and mentioned goyf was to shake up a few things since i feel like they're overplayed.
Oh and i had a bit of a hiatus when it comes to modern, been playing EDH for quite a while and the casual thinking has tarnished my mind.
Otherwise i think modern is fine.
Who needs Colours?
My most played EDH deck:
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion
UBR Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R
Grixis Death's Shadow, Jund, UW Tron, Jeskai Control, Storm, Counters Company, Eldrazi Tron, Affinity, Living End, Infect, Merfolk, Dredge, Ad Nauseam, Amulet, Bogles, Eldrazi Tron, Mono U Tron, Lantern, Mardu Pyromancer
I think there's an argument for Ensnaring Bridge as well, but really there's no reason to ban anything just yet. Amulet Bloom and Grishoalbrand have dropped off pretty dramatically, and Lantern's results are basically the work of one player's homebrew.
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Who cares how "easy" it is to disrupt, or where it is in the meta break down. Its S-T-A-L-E.
Commence flaming lol...I'll answer the first question, yes I do play Modern...(its very unfortunate that it'll probably never get banned because its part of the formats identity, but it does stop a lot of things from getting unbanned and justifies WOTC printing cards like Rending Volley, rather than using creative resources to print something else).
Twitch: gamerchamp
Modern: UGrand Architect, UBTezzeret Control, UBWRG Bridge From Below (Dredge)
Legacy: UWGTrue-Name Bant
I can't help but notice that this is the same argument you posted a while ago, and I can't help but notice you seem to have ignored every single point I made in my response to that one, arguing the same thing with no regard for the flaws pointed out in the argument.
You make this argument as if there's somehow something wrong with Rending Volley.
Maybe not even call it a ban: Just a temporary competitive rotation of what is available in the modern format to play with so we can play with other cool cards that don't get to shine enough.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Did I say there was? Again, straw man.
Twitch: gamerchamp
Modern: UGrand Architect, UBTezzeret Control, UBWRG Bridge From Below (Dredge)
Legacy: UWGTrue-Name Bant
Spirits
And are thus irrelevant.
Then that's on you if you somehow find that troubling despite the date and its finish being that it placed in a random daily. Like how you said you didn't care about the meta breakdown or results, you're making a claim, then refusing to look at the things that that claim actually depends on.
I ignored nothing. You claimed the meta was somehow stale due to there being various builds of Twin. I pointed out how most of those builds were Tier 3/4 decks and thus not relevant to any level of staleness, and that two of the ones you mentioned were just the same deck with different splashes.
I'm not creating anything at all to refute. Your argument, at least as presented, is that bad. If you think I'm attacking a "strawman" it's only because your argument is so built out of straw that any attack on it is inherently attacking a strawman.
I'm not trolling. I'm pointing out how your arguments that you started are nonsensical.
[/quote]So, basically, you're admitting you had no actual argument there? Because if there's nothing wrong with Rending Volley, then your entire mention of it was entirely irrelevant. The natural assumption of you complaining about the effects of Twin and saying "it justifies WOTC printing cards like Rending Volley" is that there's somehow something wrong with Rending Volley, because otherwise you shouldn't mention it at all.
I don't think you can fault someone for being tired of seeing the same old deck. I've seen people complain about Storm, which I would love to see more of (I guess I'll have to break my MTGO cherry for that). People complain about Burn and I actually feel them on that one. I would hate to see Burn after Burn. I've played Competitive tournaments where 70% of my rounds were against the same deck. Most of these went very well for me, so I don't have the horrible view. Still, some people would have to play against UW Delver for 8 rounds in the Swiss or Caw Blade for 7 rounds in the Swiss.
You can't fault someone for wanting to play against a variety of decks. Now if he is saying that there should be worldwide Modern bans because of what's going on at HIS FNM, then he's going over the line. Then we can defend ourselves...
*I should say that these are also the types of people that Wizards listens to. Wizards doesn't want to lose customers that leave because the meta is stale.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)