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What cards, if any, do you think should be UNBANNED in Modern in the next announcement?
Poll: What cards, if any, do you think should be unbanned?
Ended Sep 28, 2015
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Ended Sep 28, 2015
Some players would prefer a more balanced approach. I am one of them.
I agree with you that Wizards has become annoyingly anti-control. However, these poll results are largely only concerned with Ancestral, Jace, Sword, Cantrips, et al. Which is fine, I'm just merely stating the slant that the pollers have.
I am actually all for unbanning all the cards that were banned due to past formats power, I am also down for unbanning preordain and DTT because double bans on similar cards is silly. Now I know that will never happen to certain cards on the ban list I am hoping the past results of Valakut and Bitterblossom not doing anything lets Sword come off.
GW Rhys the Redeemed EDH
RUGAnimar, Soul of Elements EDH
WBRAlesha, Who Smiles at Death EDH
but but but stoneforge draws you a card, and the guy who uses removal is down one card! totally broken!!!!!!
Turn 2 Amulet kill is WAY more balanced and healthy for the game than a 1/2 that takes 2 turns to play a 4/4! Ancestral Visions is soooo broken too since like a game that is guaranteed to last 4 turns is apparently no good. Modern games need to end quicker since I have a short attention span and I am terrible at Magic so they need to keep Modern "balanced" so I can win and not cry that I cant strategize in a card game. We need more creatures humping each other since nothing else is fun and my walmart pack buying ocd is what is good for Magic according to wizards market research.
It's relatively slow, easily answered, and gives boost to tier 3 white decks and white in general.
Though I suppose there is a danger of Junk jamming it.
It's insane to me that BGx has most of it's legacy staples directly ported over, making the power level of its cards even higher here than they are in legacy.
I guess that's a concession you make whenever there can only be one viable "police deck" and blue is forced into tempo/combo.
Legacy: RUG Delver
I'd like to see SFM come off as well. Fair decks definitely need a boost and especially white. There are a ton of policing effects in the format, and it would probably make concessions from combo decks to actually maybe care a little bit about what their opponent is doing which IS a good thing. I don't think decks would run 4 SFM though - unlike Legacy, there are no ways to reshuffle your 'skulls/swords in with Brainstorm so the 2nd/3rd/4th have huge DR. I'd probably play 3SFM, 1 Skull, and 1 SoFaI in my Mardu deck. I think it'd help Modern overall.
Getting Song back could make Storm a viable option again. As it is now, Burn, and BGx, are such incredibly awful match ups, the deck is near unplayable. Not to mention we have multiple t2-3 combo decks running around in Bloom Titan, Shoal Reanimator, Infect, etc, and everyone seems to be fine with those. Also not to mention things like Affinity, Bogles, Zoo can literally just race it. I think at this point in Modern, Storm could easily have Song back, without threatening to overwhelm the meta at all, as the deck already has many checks and balances with it's match ups.
Having Song back would make Ritual Gifts a viable option again as well as a few other strategies, like Hivemind combo, and Enduring Ideal that fell apart without having access to the Ritual.
Dig through Time I think could come back too. It gives control decks a tool to use, which would be nice, considering control doesn't have much going for it right now in Modern, and selfishly I want it back just for Ritual Gifts. Even without Song, having access to Dig made Ritual Gifts 100% better, and that deck is just way too awesome.
That said, I'd rather not see it unbanned without a reprinting. It's not like modern needs even more expensive cards.
Anyway, that was my vote.
Dig through time, too, because the splash damage with Treasure Cruise was completely unnecessary. Cruise was over the top, but there would be no scenario where every deck splashes for Dig through time. With just as many enablers in standard for Delve, a ton of other decks have won major events all year that didn't play the card, and not because there was nothing good to pair it with.
What I think should happen: Nothing unbanned.
Interesting things to test out: Jace, the Mind Sculptor+Bloodbraid Elf (to keep Jace in check). Format can only reasonably support one of Bloodbraid Elf or Deathrite Shaman, and DRS is probably a bit too strong to justify at the moment. Stoneforge Mystic seems reasonably safe, especially as there is a decent amount of Kolaghan's Command in the format. Being able to both kill it and the equipment it brings in is quite handy. I wouldn't mind testing Punishing Fire, although I think it would skew the meta far away from Aggro.
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On the subject of Punishing Fire: it would make Jund a bit better, and make Groves INSANELY expensive, but strangely, would be fine. Punishing Fire wouldn't be stifling x/2s, it's the fact that unless its a 2/2 lord in the format or a Young Pyromancer/Eidolon/Goblin Guide, sub 3 toughness creatures just don't matter in the format.
I do generally agree that nothing will be banned or unbanned though. Mostly, the format is reasonably balanced. It would be nice to get some new blood into the format to shake it up a bit, and prove that we don't need every awesome card printed in the last 7 years to be on the banned list.
Jace wouldn't see play in all decks, just in a couple (as you said). However, the big problem is, that most people will try to play him in nearly all their decks which results into a huge demand and hence a price spike. When they notice, that the card isn't that great in their deck, they don't want to sell them for negative value, price memory happens. At this point, the card will be around 90-130 Euro (don't know the US price, but this is an increase between 90 and 130 percent). And this will be the big problem, since Modern doesn't need another Goyf (pricewise).
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
Deathrite Shaman Bloodbraid Elf Punishing Fire
Let Mortal Kombat kommence!
Grixis Death's Shadow, Jund, UW Tron, Jeskai Control, Storm, Counters Company, Eldrazi Tron, Affinity, Living End, Infect, Merfolk, Dredge, Ad Nauseam, Amulet, Bogles, Eldrazi Tron, Mono U Tron, Lantern, Mardu Pyromancer
UW Ephara Hatebears [Primer], GB Gitrog Lands, BRU Inalla Combo-Control, URG Maelstrom Wanderer Landfall
I'd want sword of the meek off but *shrug* its not really needed.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
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I'd like to see it make a comeback. Tasigur is enough of a boon to the grixis decks that BBE would be a fine tool for jund to use against them and generally. Not broken, just good value.
Just waiting for the day. I've had my fingers permanently crossed for years now. It feels like the right time.
This.
I played Jund 2 weeks ago at FNM and went 4-0-1 (Unintentional Draw). I didn't really enjoy it. But if Bloodbraid Elf is unbanned, I will 99.9% play Jund or Jund with White until something else drastic changes.
The meta is fun when everyone is on some version of Jund trying to next level the other Jund. Next Level Jund, Next Next Level Jund, Next Next Next Next Next Level Jund... Fun.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
I was considering editing my post to discuss the 0.01% of other decks I might play. Simian Spirit Guide, Desperate Ritual, Blood Moon, Mono Red denial. Then I figured I got my point across about further helping Jund.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)