This is made separate from the banlist discussion in order to have the poll to try to gauge popular opinion. You can select multiple choices, so if there are multiple cards you think should be unbanned, select all that apply. Note that this applies to the upcoming banning announcement that happens in several weeks, so don't vote for cards where you're of the persuasion that you want it unbanned eventually, but not right now.
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Cool, hopefully this poll gets to stick around in some fashion just to see where it goes. No discussing bans just watching the bars jump around.
However the number of cards on the list looks a little long, I was kinda hoping to just keep it to cards brought up in the ban list discussion thread. I don't think anyone has actually advocated for unbanning hypergenisis and the one time Jitte was brought up it only received 1-2 replies (going on memory could be wrong)
Ancestral Vision: TC and Dig through Time are way stronger and Faries and Control could use a boost.
BBE: With Zoo and Jund seeing only little play and Rhino being legal I think BBE is safe and especially Jund with Anger of the Gods could decrease the number of Delver and Pod.
GGT: I don't think that I have to explain this one. With the graveyard hate we have and the missing of DR I think this is safe.
Sword of the Meek: Same reason as AV, only minus Faeries.
GSZ: Hatebears need help in my opinion and a hatebear deck with GSZ and Rhino can be favoured against Pod and Delver, which will make the format more diverse.
Please be honest guys! Let's see what the players really want
This is a super useful tool if we think and vote acordingly; and if WotC is "watching" let's send them a message!
The problem with this is that anyone can vote, including people that play no tournaments or that are simply biased. If I were WotC I would completely ignore such polls and ask people that really know the format.
Yeah instead ask pros like Josh Utter-Leyton who thinks fetchlands should be banned or Patrick Chapin who said that Manamorphose should be banned. Clearly they are way more reasonable than the average person, right?
Ancestral Vision: TC and Dig through Time are way stronger and Faries and Control could use a boost.
BBE: With Zoo and Jund seeing only little play and Rhino being legal I think BBE is safe and especially Jund with Anger of the Gods could decrease the number of Delver and Pod.
GGT: I don't think that I have to explain this one. With the graveyard hate we have and the missing of DR I think this is safe.
Sword of the Meek: Same reason as AV, only minus Faeries.
GSZ: Hatebears need help in my opinion and a hatebear deck with GSZ and Rhino can be favoured against Pod and Delver, which will make the format more diverse.
Ancestral Vision: TC and Dig through Time are way stronger and Faries and Control could use a boost.
BBE: With Zoo and Jund seeing only little play and Rhino being legal I think BBE is safe and especially Jund with Anger of the Gods could decrease the number of Delver and Pod.
GGT: I don't think that I have to explain this one. With the graveyard hate we have and the missing of DR I think this is safe.
Sword of the Meek: Same reason as AV, only minus Faeries.
GSZ: Hatebears need help in my opinion and a hatebear deck with GSZ and Rhino can be favoured against Pod and Delver, which will make the format more diverse.
HEY! No discussion, only numbers.
I didn't discuss anything, I only explained my votes. Discussion would be if I answered another post.
We are going to try to leave this open with the expectation that players will just vote here and do nothing else. NO DISCUSSION OR POSTING. That includes responses to other people and even explanations of your choices. If you want to explain/argue/talk, go the banlist thread.
Visions and BBE are kind of no-brainers now. There's better cheap card draw in blue, and BBE would not be the dominant force it once was. Siege Rhino costs as much, hits for a six point life swing, is bigger, and has trample. Give us that one back. And, thanks to Khans, it would be safe to bring Deathrite back. He slows down Delve, and the sheer number of decks that pack Bolt will keep him in check, too.
Visions and BBE are kind of no-brainers now. There's better cheap card draw in blue, and BBE would not be the dominant force it once was. Siege Rhino costs as much, hits for a six point life swing, is bigger, and has trample. Give us that one back. And, thanks to Khans, it would be safe to bring Deathrite back. He slows down Delve, and the sheer number of decks that pack Bolt will keep him in check, too.
Wasn't clear about this;
If you post in this thread, you will get a warning/infraction.
AV: TC is better in most (if not all decks) in modern. seems silly to have on the banned list with TC legal.
GGT: Without DR this is just silly to have on.
BBE: Jund needs to have something to do. Junk gets value + beat stick and basically made jund a thing of the past.
depths: no particular reason. I think a lands deck should be viable in modern and there's not much else that would use it.
DRS: I just want to play with drs... I don't think it would be healthy or anything I just like the card so I voted for the little guy.
JTMS: With delver and combo so wide spread controll decks have taken a hit. The only actual controll deck left (that is tier 1) is scapeshift and that's a combo deck in disguise.
Notable didn't votes:
Sword of the Meek: I want controll to be a thing, I don't want controll to be a deck that pushes all little guy/burn deck out of the format.
SFM: While I want white to do more main deck in modern SFM + BS is just too much for us.
Jite: I think it would add to a delver problem and not help it. It's a card that once it connects it's hard to win after and that's just not that healthy for modern when every little guy deck can run it against each other as a fun of and then have a huge boost on the other deck.
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NO DISCUSSION/POSTING IN HERE! Just vote and go over to the banlist thread to talk about it
-ktkenshinx-
B, they can't see anything past your huge signature.
However the number of cards on the list looks a little long, I was kinda hoping to just keep it to cards brought up in the ban list discussion thread. I don't think anyone has actually advocated for unbanning hypergenisis and the one time Jitte was brought up it only received 1-2 replies (going on memory could be wrong)
Ancestral Vision: TC and Dig through Time are way stronger and Faries and Control could use a boost.
BBE: With Zoo and Jund seeing only little play and Rhino being legal I think BBE is safe and especially Jund with Anger of the Gods could decrease the number of Delver and Pod.
GGT: I don't think that I have to explain this one. With the graveyard hate we have and the missing of DR I think this is safe.
Sword of the Meek: Same reason as AV, only minus Faeries.
GSZ: Hatebears need help in my opinion and a hatebear deck with GSZ and Rhino can be favoured against Pod and Delver, which will make the format more diverse.
Yeah instead ask pros like Josh Utter-Leyton who thinks fetchlands should be banned or Patrick Chapin who said that Manamorphose should be banned. Clearly they are way more reasonable than the average person, right?
Anyway the cards that I voted for are
Ancestral Vision
Bloodbraid Elf
Golgari Grave-Troll
Sword of the Meek
HEY! No discussion, only numbers.
I didn't discuss anything, I only explained my votes. Discussion would be if I answered another post.
Wasn't clear about this;
If you post in this thread, you will get a warning/infraction.
Just post in the banlist thread
Modern : Huh?
EDH : UBGW Thrasios / Tymna Combo UBGW // GRW Mayael Big Stuff GRW // GU Edric Timewalkers GU
AV: TC is better in most (if not all decks) in modern. seems silly to have on the banned list with TC legal.
GGT: Without DR this is just silly to have on.
BBE: Jund needs to have something to do. Junk gets value + beat stick and basically made jund a thing of the past.
depths: no particular reason. I think a lands deck should be viable in modern and there's not much else that would use it.
DRS: I just want to play with drs... I don't think it would be healthy or anything I just like the card so I voted for the little guy.
JTMS: With delver and combo so wide spread controll decks have taken a hit. The only actual controll deck left (that is tier 1) is scapeshift and that's a combo deck in disguise.
Notable didn't votes:
Sword of the Meek: I want controll to be a thing, I don't want controll to be a deck that pushes all little guy/burn deck out of the format.
SFM: While I want white to do more main deck in modern SFM + BS is just too much for us.
Jite: I think it would add to a delver problem and not help it. It's a card that once it connects it's hard to win after and that's just not that healthy for modern when every little guy deck can run it against each other as a fun of and then have a huge boost on the other deck.