I honestly don't think it's worth it. It's sort of good against Delver and Living End and not really much else. On top of that, topdecking one lategame is basically hell.
I've been playing storm for about a year and am going to be at GP charlotte (hopefully). I've got a bunch of questions for you meta game experts.
How much graveyard hate do you expect will be there? My meta is full of it (and that guy with a maindeck rule of law).
What is happening with the coco decks? Are they any good and do you expect them to show up in force?
What would it take for storm to get back up to tier 2? Right now it has the third best percentages of a deck outside tier 1/2. However that is the data through april, is there any more recent data up now?
I've been playing storm for about a year and am going to be at GP charlotte (hopefully). I've got a bunch of questions for you meta game experts.
How much graveyard hate do you expect will be there? My meta is full of it (and that guy with a maindeck rule of law).
What is happening with the coco decks? Are they any good and do you expect them to show up in force?
What would it take for storm to get back up to tier 2? Right now it has the third best percentages of a deck outside tier 1/2. However that is the data through april, is there any more recent data up now?
1. There should be a fair amount of it. People are expecting the Abzan Company deck to make a showing, on top of all the usual suspects that cause GY hate to appear. We're also seeing a lot of it in Jund decks, which are making a comeback, and RG Tron, which you can expect to see because Jund/Abzan have such a respectable combined metagame percentage.
2. Abzan Company is a very solid deck, and I would expect to see that deck. It also has a lot of hype surrounding it, which will add to its prevalence, especially on day 1. Elves presents a similar case, although it has less metagame share but probably more hype behind it: people LOVE that deck, and any deck that threatens turn 3 wins will get attention. I expect to see ~8%-10% of the metagame on Abzan Company, and maybe half that on Elves. Plus you'll see Naya Zoo decks running it too (another 3%-5% or so).
3. The updated metagame is here: http://modernnexus.com/topdecks/
This is getting updated this week too, probably on Wednesday. The biggest change is Infect dropping out of tier 1 and a few decks creeping up to tier 2.
What kind of graveyard hate will be there? Relic or RIP. It seems to be that relic would be more common as it is all you need to beat coco (that's what I'm calling it; deal with it ).
Although graveyard hate will be common I'm happy to see that elves and coco will be popular, storm could use some good matchups.
What kind of graveyard hate will be there? Relic or RIP. It seems to be that relic would be more common as it is all you need to beat coco (that's what I'm calling it; deal with it ).
Although graveyard hate will be common I'm happy to see that elves and coco will be popular, storm could use some good matchups.
If people are actually worried about the Company decks, I'd expect to see people dusting off Grafdigger's Cage.
The biggest change is Infect dropping out of tier 1
Well that means one non-interactive deck is down and that kinda contradicts the premise of the "Is Modern heading towards uninteractive decks?" thread
Only Burn and Affinity remaining and Affinity has seen better days and isn't looking that great either. The increase of Lightning Bolt decks(Jund, Grixis Delver) and the printing of Kolaghan's Command most likely had something to do with that.
How does the Grixis Delver vs Tron variants look like? I.e Mono-U Tron, GR Tron, and UW Tron
Well GR Tron is really the only relevant Tron deck, so talking about the others in this context is kind of worthless. Besides, I'd imagine Grixis would simply destroy Utron/UWtron.
I haven't played the matchup, but on paper I would suppose it depends on how fast Grixis Delver comes out of the gates (ie, Turn 2 Tasigur). Beating GR tron requires you to put immediate pressure on it all the time and hold up counters for Karn/Wurmcoil. If a Wurmcoil resolves, that's probably game over on the other hand.
Unlike most delver variants Grixis at least has terminate/cut and bolts to stop the lifegain wurm.
They are awful against Wurmcoil. Vapor Snag is better tempo option here. In my experience RG-Tron matchup became slightly worse in comparison to all-aggro UR version, but sideboard bombs, tasigur t2 (as already said) and sth like Kolaghan's Command remain it favourable anyway.
Big takeaways include Infect falling to tier 2, Elves and Abzan Company climbing to tier 2, and a bunch of non-Grixis midrange/control/tempo decks falling out of tier 2.
Big takeaways include Infect falling to tier 2, Elves and Abzan Company climbing to tier 2, and a bunch of non-Grixis midrange/control/tempo decks falling out of tier 2.
I like that there is a good delver variant in modern now, it does wonders for the balance of the meta game. I am also glad a there is more toolboxy decks returning (I miss you pod).
Those numbers are looking much healthier than a couple of months ago.
Burn is still a pain though, although that might be a personal dislike of the deck rather than anything else. infect doesn't like lightning bolts, there are more lightning bolt decks with delver back.
There was already pre Cruise/Tasigur/Angler/Mandrills a good Delver deck (4c Delver/Counter Cat, however you want to call that deck), but the problem was, that nobody played it. When they printed Cruise, suddenly lots of people started playing Delver decks, which gave the Delver decks a big enough playerbase to get innovations (more people = more ideas = more likely there will be a good deck post bans = more likely that the deck will have high end finishes = people will start again to play delver). For me it is no wonder that there are a couple of good Delver decks atm (not Tier 1, but solid Tier 2 or even 1.5) since the shell is more than solid in the current metagame.
My predictions for the metagame: One of the two CoCo decks will be Tier 1 (probably the Junk builds, since they have/can play stronger cards in the deck), Delver will remain Tier 2 (all of them), Jund will rise more and will surpass Junk, Junk will still be Tier 1 but its metagame share will decrease again (exception is, if they finally start to adapt to the metagame (aka, play more 2 drops, more early removal in Darkblast/Disfigure and try not the be that top heavy)), Burn will be still Tier 1, Infect will drop out of Tier 2 and RG Tron will be close to Tier 1 again (the meta got a lot better for Tron, compared with the last few months).
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Kathal
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Big takeaways include Infect falling to tier 2, Elves and Abzan Company climbing to tier 2, and a bunch of non-Grixis midrange/control/tempo decks falling out of tier 2.
Big takeaways include Infect falling to tier 2, Elves and Abzan Company climbing to tier 2, and a bunch of non-Grixis midrange/control/tempo decks falling out of tier 2.
Big takeaways include Infect falling to tier 2, Elves and Abzan Company climbing to tier 2, and a bunch of non-Grixis midrange/control/tempo decks falling out of tier 2.
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Looking at the results from dailies from MTGGoldfish and my own observations from watching daily event replays it almost looks like Jund is on a rampage and plowing through the competition.
Interested in seeing if we something like that happen in the current SCG Event too.
Anyway it makes me happy. Considering all the "what happened to Dark Confidant?" threads or the "Jund is underpowered" posts.
Happy to see Jund take off again. Quite funny that the 4x Decay is not a precondition anymore. Also seems like Company is being stopped in its tracks, which is probably partially due to the Jund uprising. Good development.
Probably Counter-Cat, since it has a good match-up against most of the top tier decks. BUT you need a lot of experience with the deck to do well (I mean, I play this deck since last year and I still make punts).
If I just want to have fun (and have a broken deck) I would go with Tin Fins (either the Shoal version or the classic Grixis version). The deck has some weak match-ups but can kill the opponent before they can do something (same with Amulet Bloom). But both versions aren't easy to play (especially mulligan decisions).
In the end, I suggest you to play a deck you know the in-and-outs, since this is atm more important than a specific meta deck (the field is to open to meta against it, especially day 1 on a GP).
Greetings,
Kathal
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How much graveyard hate do you expect will be there? My meta is full of it (and that guy with a maindeck rule of law).
What is happening with the coco decks? Are they any good and do you expect them to show up in force?
What would it take for storm to get back up to tier 2? Right now it has the third best percentages of a deck outside tier 1/2. However that is the data through april, is there any more recent data up now?
1. There should be a fair amount of it. People are expecting the Abzan Company deck to make a showing, on top of all the usual suspects that cause GY hate to appear. We're also seeing a lot of it in Jund decks, which are making a comeback, and RG Tron, which you can expect to see because Jund/Abzan have such a respectable combined metagame percentage.
2. Abzan Company is a very solid deck, and I would expect to see that deck. It also has a lot of hype surrounding it, which will add to its prevalence, especially on day 1. Elves presents a similar case, although it has less metagame share but probably more hype behind it: people LOVE that deck, and any deck that threatens turn 3 wins will get attention. I expect to see ~8%-10% of the metagame on Abzan Company, and maybe half that on Elves. Plus you'll see Naya Zoo decks running it too (another 3%-5% or so).
3. The updated metagame is here: http://modernnexus.com/topdecks/
This is getting updated this week too, probably on Wednesday. The biggest change is Infect dropping out of tier 1 and a few decks creeping up to tier 2.
Although graveyard hate will be common I'm happy to see that elves and coco will be popular, storm could use some good matchups.
If people are actually worried about the Company decks, I'd expect to see people dusting off Grafdigger's Cage.
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Well that means one non-interactive deck is down and that kinda contradicts the premise of the "Is Modern heading towards uninteractive decks?" thread
Only Burn and Affinity remaining and Affinity has seen better days and isn't looking that great either. The increase of Lightning Bolt decks(Jund, Grixis Delver) and the printing of Kolaghan's Command most likely had something to do with that.
Well GR Tron is really the only relevant Tron deck, so talking about the others in this context is kind of worthless. Besides, I'd imagine Grixis would simply destroy Utron/UWtron.
I haven't played the matchup, but on paper I would suppose it depends on how fast Grixis Delver comes out of the gates (ie, Turn 2 Tasigur). Beating GR tron requires you to put immediate pressure on it all the time and hold up counters for Karn/Wurmcoil. If a Wurmcoil resolves, that's probably game over on the other hand.
They are awful against Wurmcoil. Vapor Snag is better tempo option here. In my experience RG-Tron matchup became slightly worse in comparison to all-aggro UR version, but sideboard bombs, tasigur t2 (as already said) and sth like Kolaghan's Command remain it favourable anyway.
http://modernnexus.com/modern-metagame-breakdown-51-61/
Big takeaways include Infect falling to tier 2, Elves and Abzan Company climbing to tier 2, and a bunch of non-Grixis midrange/control/tempo decks falling out of tier 2.
Those numbers are looking much healthier than a couple of months ago.
Burn is still a pain though, although that might be a personal dislike of the deck rather than anything else. infect doesn't like lightning bolts, there are more lightning bolt decks with delver back.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
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My predictions for the metagame: One of the two CoCo decks will be Tier 1 (probably the Junk builds, since they have/can play stronger cards in the deck), Delver will remain Tier 2 (all of them), Jund will rise more and will surpass Junk, Junk will still be Tier 1 but its metagame share will decrease again (exception is, if they finally start to adapt to the metagame (aka, play more 2 drops, more early removal in Darkblast/Disfigure and try not the be that top heavy)), Burn will be still Tier 1, Infect will drop out of Tier 2 and RG Tron will be close to Tier 1 again (the meta got a lot better for Tron, compared with the last few months).
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
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Same here, site seems down.
It's down. Looking into it.
In short, the website transition was a lot of work. So I've been wearing too many Magic hats this week (plus actual work) and I needed to prioritize. It will happen first thing Monday
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EDH : UBGW Thrasios / Tymna Combo UBGW // GRW Mayael Big Stuff GRW // GU Edric Timewalkers GU
Interested in seeing if we something like that happen in the current SCG Event too.
Anyway it makes me happy. Considering all the "what happened to Dark Confidant?" threads or the "Jund is underpowered" posts.
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5678If I just want to have fun (and have a broken deck) I would go with Tin Fins (either the Shoal version or the classic Grixis version). The deck has some weak match-ups but can kill the opponent before they can do something (same with Amulet Bloom). But both versions aren't easy to play (especially mulligan decisions).
In the end, I suggest you to play a deck you know the in-and-outs, since this is atm more important than a specific meta deck (the field is to open to meta against it, especially day 1 on a GP).
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)