The SCG Open this weekend is Modern. I'm not sure if anyone knew it, was just too busy elsewhere, or didn't care.
A friend told me that Jund was the only undefeated deck on Day 1 (although I personally saw 2 9-0s).
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
I'm more surprised that 8 rack made it to the top (another control deck!). After 19 decks of E-Tron in day 2, not a single copy in the top 8. I think E-Tron's biggest weakness is that it doesn't really have a "wild card" that'll put it over the top after 20 rounds of magic. It's linear and people know what it does. Kinda like burn. You either blow everyone out with big creatures or durdle around until Ulamog saves the player's butt. It's hard to maintain a consistent pace to grind people out.
The SCG Open this weekend is Modern. I'm not sure if anyone knew it, was just too busy elsewhere, or didn't care.
A friend told me that Jund was the only undefeated deck on Day 1 (although I personally saw 2 9-0s).
Bant Eldrazi was the other. Both are blasts from the past!
Also, Goblins was listed in the day 2 metagame! I would love to see a list. When Grixis Shadow and UW Control were ruling the roost, I was able to sneak in two trophies in competitive leagues. Now that the meta has transitioned to more scapeshift, eldrazi, and storm, I can barely maintain fifty percent.
Apparently a Dubious Challenge deck managed to Top16, I remember talk about it when the card was printed but it was very inconsistent and bad (there are much better ways to cheat in fatties, even Summoning Trap).
It reminds me of a worse version of the "Breaking // Entering Expertise" deck (before the rules change killed it).
I didn't manage to catch much of the event but the top 8 of past week's SCG event was such a breath of fresh air. The jeskai vs 8rack match as well as the finals were a blast to watch. Coverage is much more enjoyable when you actually get to put yourselves in the players shoes and try to make meaningful decisions and lines of play alongside them and see how it plays out.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
Okay, so that appears to be Jund placing 3rd in Louisville on 16 Sep and 1st in Dallas today. Bobs, Goyfs, Scoozes, Lilianas, a Chandra, and similar spell packages including Push.
Hard to say. The meta at that Classic seemed somewhat odd. Classics are basically 70+ person FNMs. I have played only 2 Classics myself with Bogles and been 7-2 and 4th place. And I'm a terrible player.
That being said, it is an interesting development. Personally, I am under the belief that Jund is still (barely) Tier 2. It is not Tier 1, like Junk, which is probably barely Tier 1. There are 3-5 super good decks, but with the variance of Modern, anything within Tier 2 can win on any given day in a 1 day tournament. I feel that the Jund that got 3rd in Louisville at the Open in a 2 day tournament is much more impressive. You'd expect him to get crushed on Day 2.
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A Modern SCG Open is on again! I just had to post here. Cedric Phillips getting the "Conflagrate for the win" checked off his Bingo card during the Dredge vs. Burn match when Patrick Sullivan was screaming for the Burn opponent to concede was just pure gold!
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Just saw one of the sloppiest Storm players on camera. Even though they lost that match, they entered the match 7-0. That tells you everything you need to know about Modern right now.
Just saw one of the sloppiest Storm players on camera. Even though they lost that match, they entered the match 7-0. That tells you everything you need to know about Modern right now.
In fairness, some people play worse on camera due to increased pressure. A friend of mine who was fairly decent at his deck performed really badly in a feature match he had.
@cfusionpm, while I understand you have your opinion, and that a Storm player may have played sloppy on camera, that's quite a conclusion to jump to. You're using one single player in one single match, and your opinion of how well he or she played on camera, to come to a conclusion about the entire Modern metagame? I've been playing my deck for over four years now, solid, and I still make mistakes when I'm not playing on camera, after going on a streak of wins against very good opponents in a competitive metagame. It seems to me that you've already formed your conclusion and you are attempting to use this single "data point" to support your conclusion, rather than objectively consider how healthy the format is using multiple, falsifiable data points or hypothesis'.
It's a culmination of observations about linear decks allowing sloppy play, but still giving "free" wins. It felt like a poster child match to see a 7-0 Storm player stumble and bumble to a loss. What happened in those other matches? Were they just as sloppy and opponents just didn't have the right kind of interaction? To me it showcases the biggest problem I have with Modern right now, when decks like Storm are among the top, but don't even require tight play to do well in a tournament. Just good matchups where other people leave you alone.
Yes, because the all Sainted Twin, may Lord have Mercy on her URx name, never gave people free wins.
Twin punished attempted free wins hard and punished sloppy play. That punishment for most of the top decks today doesn't seem to exist. The only decks that seem hugely punished for poor play are the fair decks sitting in Tier 2+ or in the GDS mirror.
It's a culmination of observations about linear decks allowing sloppy play, but still giving "free" wins. It felt like a poster child match to see a 7-0 Storm player stumble and bumble to a loss. What happened in those other matches? Were they just as sloppy and opponents just didn't have the right kind of interaction? To me it showcases the biggest problem I have with Modern right now, when decks like Storm are among the top, but don't even require tight play to do well in a tournament. Just good matchups where other people leave you alone.
Nope. You're collating stuff in a way that doesn't logically follow, whether your own anecdotal experience leads you down that path or not it's still not a thing.
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It's a culmination of observations about linear decks allowing sloppy play, but still giving "free" wins. It felt like a poster child match to see a 7-0 Storm player stumble and bumble to a loss. What happened in those other matches? Were they just as sloppy and opponents just didn't have the right kind of interaction? To me it showcases the biggest problem I have with Modern right now, when decks like Storm are among the top, but don't even require tight play to do well in a tournament. Just good matchups where other people leave you alone.
Nope. You're collating stuff in a way that doesn't logically follow, whether your own anecdotal experience leads you down that path or not it's still not a thing.
Ok. Sure. I'll concede the point. My own biases and experiences shape that opinion. My personal hatred for Storm probably doesn't help.
Ok. Sure. I'll concede the point. My own biases and experiences shape that opinion. My personal hatred for Storm probably doesn't help.
Honestly, it happens. Not everybody plays every single match at their best. Most players don't.
At the Grand Prix Las Vegas, the way I played my Round 8 match vs. Ben Weitz was comical. I looked like I learned to play Magic just the day before. But in all 3 Affinity matches I played (Round 3, Round 9, and Round 11), I played very well. Any mistake in those 2-1 matches would have cost me the match.
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Can people tell Patrick Sullivan to shut up about bannings in Legacy already during a Modern tournament? It was okay to talk about between games to pass the time but he kept going during the game. A game of Modern was going on and instead of discussing what was going on he spent most of it going on about how he's against banning Deathrite Shaman in Legacy.
In case anyone's wondering what I'm talking about after the fact, see the second game in the Semifinals (Humans v. Merfolk).
Can people tell Patrick Sullivan to shut up about bannings in Legacy already during a Modern tournament? It was okay to talk about between games to pass the time but he kept going during the game. A game of Modern was going on and instead of discussing what was going on he spent most of it going on about how he's against banning Deathrite Shaman in Legacy.
In case anyone's wondering what I'm talking about after the fact, see the second game in the Semifinals (Humans v. Merfolk).
I actually was interested in it. I hadn't heard that the talk of banning Deathrite Shaman in Legacy had picked up. I did know that it's been #1 on the chopping block for quite a bit now, but I didn't even realize that the talk had picked up. Personally, I think it would be a terrible ban. Besides, the match so far has just been a pure Aggro race; pretty bland and boring for most many people.
*On another note, did Patrick Sullivan have a Freudian Slip? He just called Collins Mullen, "Collins Mulligan." Or was that just my ears in my old age failing me?
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
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A friend told me that Jund was the only undefeated deck on Day 1 (although I personally saw 2 9-0s).
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Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
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Bant Eldrazi was the other. Both are blasts from the past!
Also, Goblins was listed in the day 2 metagame! I would love to see a list. When Grixis Shadow and UW Control were ruling the roost, I was able to sneak in two trophies in competitive leagues. Now that the meta has transitioned to more scapeshift, eldrazi, and storm, I can barely maintain fifty percent.
Well they're not really blue and furthermore...
UB Faeries (15-6-0)
UWR Control (10-5-1)/Kiki Control/Midrange/Harbinger
UBR Cruel Control (6-4-0)/Grixis Control/Delver/Blue Jund
UWB Control/Mentor
UW Miracles/Control (currently active, 14-2-0)
BW Eldrazi & Taxes
RW Burn (9-1-0)
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Have these people never heard of guild feud?
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Are the Fun Police back, or is this variance?
That being said, it is an interesting development. Personally, I am under the belief that Jund is still (barely) Tier 2. It is not Tier 1, like Junk, which is probably barely Tier 1. There are 3-5 super good decks, but with the variance of Modern, anything within Tier 2 can win on any given day in a 1 day tournament. I feel that the Jund that got 3rd in Louisville at the Open in a 2 day tournament is much more impressive. You'd expect him to get crushed on Day 2.
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Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Players also just get nervous and fatigued. I don't really think it says anything, we see good players make poor decisions all the time.
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uh, no it doesn't =S
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Nope. You're collating stuff in a way that doesn't logically follow, whether your own anecdotal experience leads you down that path or not it's still not a thing.
Ok. Sure. I'll concede the point. My own biases and experiences shape that opinion. My personal hatred for Storm probably doesn't help.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Interesting; eldrazi tron didn't manage to do very well, placing just 3 decks in day 2.
Comparatively, counters company decks put 7 copies in day 2, and so did shadow decks.
Scapeshift was... Four copies I think?
Humans 1 copy (currently 11-0)
Seems totally decent to me :).
Honestly, it happens. Not everybody plays every single match at their best. Most players don't.
At the Grand Prix Las Vegas, the way I played my Round 8 match vs. Ben Weitz was comical. I looked like I learned to play Magic just the day before. But in all 3 Affinity matches I played (Round 3, Round 9, and Round 11), I played very well. Any mistake in those 2-1 matches would have cost me the match.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)In case anyone's wondering what I'm talking about after the fact, see the second game in the Semifinals (Humans v. Merfolk).
I actually was interested in it. I hadn't heard that the talk of banning Deathrite Shaman in Legacy had picked up. I did know that it's been #1 on the chopping block for quite a bit now, but I didn't even realize that the talk had picked up. Personally, I think it would be a terrible ban. Besides, the match so far has just been a pure Aggro race; pretty bland and boring for
mostmany people.*On another note, did Patrick Sullivan have a Freudian Slip? He just called Collins Mullen, "Collins Mulligan." Or was that just my ears in my old age failing me?
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)