Increasing Vengeance might work as a replacement, I am going to test it. You usually needed a 2 mana ritual to go off anyways. IV coping a Desperate ritual adds 1, then 4 more when its flashed back which is more total than a seething song. It doesn't help getting that critical 6 mana to PiF and start ritting again though.
Thats going to make you a ton softer to control and it doesn't play with electromancer.
I'm really infuriated by these bannings. They didn't unban anything in return, they just keep adding to the ban list. Without Seething Song, in all seriousness, Storm deck is dead. It wasn't even that much of a problem, it hadn't won any major tournaments that I can remember. I read their explanation and I still think it's bunk. Modern format is not a fun format, it's a police state ran by Wizards of the Coast. You planning to go to a PTQ next week? You can just wake up one morning and find out the deck you've been testing for weeks has had their key cards banned. Good luck.What's next, Tarmogoyf banning? Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised. It just seems they want to ban cards from ANY deck that does well. If anything, Tarmogoyf is the most efficient card in the most decks by far. Easy ban, not that I want them to.
I'm really infuriated by these bannings. They didn't unban anything in return, they just keep adding to the ban list. Without Seething Song, in all seriousness, Storm deck is dead. It wasn't even that much of a problem, it hadn't won any major tournaments that I can remember. I read their explanation and I still think it's bunk. Modern format is not a fun format, it's a police state ran by Wizards of the Coast. You planning to go to a PTQ next week? You can just wake up one morning and find out the deck you've been testing for weeks has had their key cards banned. Good luck.What's next, Tarmogoyf banning? Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised. It just seems they want to ban cards from ANY deck that does well. If anything, Tarmogoyf is the most efficient card in the most decks by far. Easy ban, not that I want them to.
I was literally planning on taking this to a PTQ. 150 bucks. Gone.
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So the neckbeard fave deck Jund gets a little slap on the wrist, but largely remains same as it ever was, and Storm gets executed? It seems so... uneven. There's no other point to banning that card other than killing the deck off competitively.
There has never been a land that enters the battlefield untapped unconditionally and taps for two colors unconditionally. That would be strictly better than a basic land
i think grapeshot+pyromancers swath...is the go to if you want to keep playing the deck. it can still win...but ****...yeah.
id like to think dragon storm could be a deck now but it just can't without song either...
I like your first idea, but yeah, without Seething Song there's no way you're getting to 9 mana for Dragonstorm. I really liked that deck too, but I quickly found out Grafdigger's Cage hoses it. Not too much, we're STILL missing Rite of Flame, Ponder, and Preordain. I wouldn't be surprised to see DCI ban Lotus Bloom too. That's actually probably what could replace Seething Song now that I think of it....
There has never been a land that enters the battlefield untapped unconditionally and taps for two colors unconditionally. That would be strictly better than a basic land
People are too apocalyptic. While Seething song was quite useful, it was never the backbone of storm, it was just a redundant effect added for consistency.
Sad news. Storm deck wasn't dominating at all.
But the deck is not dead. We will have to run both EpEx and PA maindeck as 3-of and that's about it.
agreed, been gold fishing since midnight, 6 hours now, and storm is still quite good. so glad that BBE is banned now tho, thank god for that. they really should have taken something off the list, maybe a blue spell, maybe one that suspends, maybe one that draws 3 cards...anyway storm still rocks, evolve and keep at it. if you love the deck you will, if you just love it cuz its cheap and easy to play on MGO then well dont.
Nothing can straight up replace Seething Song in the current shell, period. For Storm to remain top-tier viable, people are going to have to innovate. Building a shell Lotus Bloom can work in seems like a good place to start. I am testing with Faithless Looting to discard dead Blooms and give a better chance of T1'ing a Bloom.
I know some of you are very fond of your deck, but what can replace Seething Song? At this point, I am fairly sure that nothing can. This deck just got axed and that is that.
Glad I cashed in my deck a few months back. I had a wish list built on SCG to rebuild but that seems pointless.
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Doesn't add to the storm count at all and can't be flashed back. No.
Thats going to make you a ton softer to control and it doesn't play with electromancer.
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Or lol, make it Grixis colors with Dark Rituals?
id like to think dragon storm could be a deck now but it just can't without song either...
then add Cabal ritual oh what...
Might as well throw in minds desire.
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I was literally planning on taking this to a PTQ. 150 bucks. Gone.
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The deck makes up for Seething Song with Epic Experiment and Goblin Electromancer. Pyromancer Ascension still nets you turn 3 wins in your opener.
Without electromancer, pyromancer ascension or past in flames though, you can't go off, which was no different from before.
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I'm sorry man, I knew this would happen to some people. I just feel so violated because it's a total blind side.
I like your first idea, but yeah, without Seething Song there's no way you're getting to 9 mana for Dragonstorm. I really liked that deck too, but I quickly found out Grafdigger's Cage hoses it. Not too much, we're STILL missing Rite of Flame, Ponder, and Preordain. I wouldn't be surprised to see DCI ban Lotus Bloom too. That's actually probably what could replace Seething Song now that I think of it....
Everyone is just being big babies. Storm is not dead.
Storm can live without Ponder.
Storm can live without Preordain.
Storm can live without Rite of Flame.
Storm survived Grafdigger's Cage.
Storm survived Rakdos Charm.
Storm survived Rest in Peace.
Storm survived Deathrite Shaman.
Storm survived in a meta throwing Relic of Progenitus, Tormod's Crypt, Ethersworn Canonist, Rule of Law and friends around.
Storm will survive without Seething Song.
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Yep, and without Seething Song, you need a mana-accelerant replacement and that's your ticket.
People are too apocalyptic. While Seething song was quite useful, it was never the backbone of storm, it was just a redundant effect added for consistency.
Cry that Storm is dead once they ban Grapeshot and Empty the Warrens, or Pyretic Ritual and Desperate Ritual or Past in Flames and Pyromancer Acenssion
agreed, been gold fishing since midnight, 6 hours now, and storm is still quite good. so glad that BBE is banned now tho, thank god for that. they really should have taken something off the list, maybe a blue spell, maybe one that suspends, maybe one that draws 3 cards...anyway storm still rocks, evolve and keep at it. if you love the deck you will, if you just love it cuz its cheap and easy to play on MGO then well dont.
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