The worse 12post gets in the PT the better, that way they won't ban my pet deck. They will ban through the breach for sure, but I never liked that card. I don't really like so many people the deck I play. At least I was playing it before the community cup, not like 90% of the netdeckers that play it now.
Why would they ban a worse version of sneak attack? If they are going to ban part of the 12-post deck, they are most assuredly banning 4 of the posts (not Glimmerpost).
huh, so combo goes crazy and does a great performance in a field full of 12post and you think they'll ban 12post engine?
i dont think anything is ban worthy at this point, that is ridiculous! if anything they should consider helping Ux control a bit if after a few weeks MODO can't spawn a mediocre control deck.
huh, so combo goes crazy and does a great performance in a field full of 12post and you think they'll ban 12post engine?
i dont think anything is ban worthy at this point, that is ridiculous! if anything they should consider helping Ux control a bit if after a few weeks MODO can't spawn a mediocre control deck.
I've tried my best to build a decent U/x control deck and failed bad. Most of the pros believe that it is impossible and I would have to agree. You can only beat one of the three big decks at once and you will still lose to the other two.
If they want to fix the format they need to ban rite of flame, and glimmerpost. That would eliminate turn 2/3 emrakul, and make turn 1-2 combo wins a little more difficult. Still they could do this...
land,simian spirit guide, Pyretic Ritual, seething song, through the breach, blightsteel colossus.
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I've tried my best to build a decent U/x control deck and failed bad. Most of the pros believe that it is impossible and I would have to agree. You can only beat one of the three big decks at once and you will still lose to the other two.
If they want to fix the format they need to ban rite of flame, and glimmerpost. That would eliminate turn 2/3 emrakul, and make turn 1-2 combo wins a little more difficult. Still they could do this...
land,simian spirit guide, Pyretic Ritual, seething song, through the breach, blightsteel colossus.
Huh, wait a couple of weeks until the meta is settled no need to ask for bans when the PT isn't even over. despite all you say the better deck at the PT is probably counter-cats which isn't a combo and isn't affected negatively by your proposed bands.
And glimmerpost has a foil, it's called Kavu Predator and it also happens to be great in the mirror with grove of the burnwillows.
There is plenty of room to explore in the format, with interesting decks like Death Cloud and Tempo Faeries, both of which are definitely unrefined and could be role players in the new meta.
Huh, wait a couple of weeks until the meta is settled no need to ask for bans when the PT isn't even over. despite all you say the better deck at the PT is probably counter-cats which isn't a combo and isn't affected negatively by your proposed bands.
And glimmerpost has a foil, it's called Kavu Predator and it also happens to be great in the mirror with grove of the burnwillows.
There is plenty of room to explore in the format, with interesting decks like Death Cloud and Tempo Faeries, both of which are definitely unrefined and could be role players in the new meta.
Blue zoo is ok, but it is a product of a degenerate meta where you have to run blue in aggro decks to have a chance against turn 1-2 combo decks. They took out hypergen for the same reason. Regular zoo is better against non-combo decks.
no just no. Glimmerposts life gain doesn't really matter to me whatsoever. If you took out 4 of the post the chances of turn 3/4 emrakul are greatly decreased. Also kavu predator is garbage.
Death cloud is decent, but it is too fair as is the UG faeries. In this format you must be able to do something dumb or you can't win.
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huh, so combo goes crazy and does a great performance in a field full of 12post and you think they'll ban 12post engine?
i dont think anything is ban worthy at this point, that is ridiculous! if anything they should consider helping Ux control a bit if after a few weeks MODO can't spawn a mediocre control deck.
Banning 4 posts does help control. That deck makes control impossible. You can reign in combo by making control more viable, or you can try to ban every possible 2 card combo in 7+ years of sets. A deck doesn't have to win to warp a metagame, Dredge is a great example of that.
Sad to see Dragonstorm wasn't in the Philly top 8.
I'm not surprised. It it a lot slower and easier to disrupt than the other storm combos.
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I'm not surprised. It it a lot slower and easier to disrupt than the other storm combos.
True. I would make a shoal infect deck but I found that the blazing shoals I thought I owned have since been traded away and now they are worth buttloads of money.
yay! GW death and taxes got in the 18 points bracket!
and lol at blue zoo.
Imagine that, mana denial working in a Meta dependent on non-basic lands. I think a U/W version of D&T would be better if it were more Tempo oriented like the U/W Stoneblade.
I'm more surprised that the Pro's haven't picked up on this deck yet. Even more so that no one that is playing it has picked up on the hard lock that's possible with it.
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It works because I ran 4 Wall of Omens, 4 Spreading Seas and 6 2 mana counters and 2 1 mana counters. Wall of Omens answers Zoo, Spreading Seas answers Post, counters answer combo. Only loss was to Breach Post, which is still a fairly bad matchup I think.
And 12Post disapears almost entirely. Nice threat to the metagame, there guys.
The UR combo decks kill it yes. But control still strait up loses to 12post which is why control players are all playing combo. also people are trying new deck to meta game. I promise you its not gone just hiding.
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Imagine that, mana denial working in a Meta dependent on non-basic lands. I think a U/W version of D&T would be better if it were more Tempo oriented like the U/W Stoneblade.
I'm more surprised that the Pro's haven't picked up on this deck yet. Even more so that no one that is playing it has picked up on the hard lock that's possible with it.
i'm surprised as well.
at least there is one dude who is using a death and taxes list on MTGO dailys. he runs GW as well, and went:
4-0 on 9/3
3-1 on 9/3 (later that day)
3-1 on 9/4
the list is on the D+T primer, found in my sig.
i think its really well positioned in the metagame, just not very popular for some reason.
The UR control decks kill it yes. But control still strait up loses to 12post which is why control players are all playing combo. also people are trying new deck to meta game. I promise you its not gone just hiding.
What UR control decks? Only UR decks I see are straight combo.
What UR control decks? Only UR decks I see are straight combo.
I meant combo decks lol. I got sideways because so noob was saying that they were control because they ran blue.
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lol, its essentially a standard deck. That just shows how bad the competition of some of these daily evens can be.
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lol, its essentially a standard deck. That just shows how bad the competition of some of these daily evens can be.
i think more than anything else it shows a power creep... but these dailies seem not very competitive
, i agree with that
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Why would they ban a worse version of sneak attack? If they are going to ban part of the 12-post deck, they are most assuredly banning 4 of the posts (not Glimmerpost).
i dont think anything is ban worthy at this point, that is ridiculous! if anything they should consider helping Ux control a bit if after a few weeks MODO can't spawn a mediocre control deck.
I've tried my best to build a decent U/x control deck and failed bad. Most of the pros believe that it is impossible and I would have to agree. You can only beat one of the three big decks at once and you will still lose to the other two.
If they want to fix the format they need to ban rite of flame, and glimmerpost. That would eliminate turn 2/3 emrakul, and make turn 1-2 combo wins a little more difficult. Still they could do this...
land,simian spirit guide, Pyretic Ritual, seething song, through the breach, blightsteel colossus.
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Huh, wait a couple of weeks until the meta is settled no need to ask for bans when the PT isn't even over. despite all you say the better deck at the PT is probably counter-cats which isn't a combo and isn't affected negatively by your proposed bands.
And glimmerpost has a foil, it's called Kavu Predator and it also happens to be great in the mirror with grove of the burnwillows.
There is plenty of room to explore in the format, with interesting decks like Death Cloud and Tempo Faeries, both of which are definitely unrefined and could be role players in the new meta.
Blue zoo is ok, but it is a product of a degenerate meta where you have to run blue in aggro decks to have a chance against turn 1-2 combo decks. They took out hypergen for the same reason. Regular zoo is better against non-combo decks.
no just no. Glimmerposts life gain doesn't really matter to me whatsoever. If you took out 4 of the post the chances of turn 3/4 emrakul are greatly decreased. Also kavu predator is garbage.
Death cloud is decent, but it is too fair as is the UG faeries. In this format you must be able to do something dumb or you can't win.
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Banning 4 posts does help control. That deck makes control impossible. You can reign in combo by making control more viable, or you can try to ban every possible 2 card combo in 7+ years of sets. A deck doesn't have to win to warp a metagame, Dredge is a great example of that.
and lol at blue zoo.
I'm not surprised. It it a lot slower and easier to disrupt than the other storm combos.
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True. I would make a shoal infect deck but I found that the blazing shoals I thought I owned have since been traded away and now they are worth buttloads of money.
then emrakul cant tutor easily
but now combo is slighty strong than aggro
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The weirdest thing I saw was a Warrior Tribal deck and Eggs Combo in 52.
Bant Zoo (or CFB Zoo, Blue Zoo, whatever you call it) is definitely a fan favorite, along with Infect Shoal.
Imagine that, mana denial working in a Meta dependent on non-basic lands. I think a U/W version of D&T would be better if it were more Tempo oriented like the U/W Stoneblade.
I'm more surprised that the Pro's haven't picked up on this deck yet. Even more so that no one that is playing it has picked up on the hard lock that's possible with it.
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It works because I ran 4 Wall of Omens, 4 Spreading Seas and 6 2 mana counters and 2 1 mana counters. Wall of Omens answers Zoo, Spreading Seas answers Post, counters answer combo. Only loss was to Breach Post, which is still a fairly bad matchup I think.
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Sai, Master Thopterist
And 12Post disapears almost entirely. Nice threat to the metagame, there guys.
The UR combo decks kill it yes. But control still strait up loses to 12post which is why control players are all playing combo. also people are trying new deck to meta game. I promise you its not gone just hiding.
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i'm surprised as well.
at least there is one dude who is using a death and taxes list on MTGO dailys. he runs GW as well, and went:
4-0 on 9/3
3-1 on 9/3 (later that day)
3-1 on 9/4
the list is on the D+T primer, found in my sig.
i think its really well positioned in the metagame, just not very popular for some reason.
Daily 55
Daily 56
Daily 57
Daily 58
Lots of CFB Zoo and some random rogue decks.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=519290
What UR control decks? Only UR decks I see are straight combo.
I meant combo decks lol. I got sideways because so noob was saying that they were control because they ran blue.
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Nice u/w control deck went 3-1 in daily 55
lol, its essentially a standard deck. That just shows how bad the competition of some of these daily evens can be.
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i think more than anything else it shows a power creep... but these dailies seem not very competitive
, i agree with that