Anguished Unmaking is a little bit more versatile than Hero’s Downfall. I like that Anguished Unmaking can take out an nonland permanent at instant speed. I was also thinking that Thrun will be good. I still have one in my board.
Be aware that it does miss manlands. If Control pushes more deck to run manlands, it might be better to use Hero's Downfall.
@SpinifexV: very good point. I am not as worried about creature lands since we have fulminator mage
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iI've played a couple of leagues and i think the meta is a good time to resurrect the stock JUNK list. siege rhino matches up well to Jace and BBE. Also souls seems great at the moment. Also been plying thrun in the side
I know this is less relevant now due to recent unbans which will change the metagame but still we have 11-0 Abzan player (Marcio Carvalho) at GP Lyon. Hopefully he doesn't run out of luck and makes into top 8.
Yeah always love to see great results with a GBx deck. Way too few in the last couple months. And from that PT on, we will grind ourself back to the top! Especially with BBE ofc.
Just saw that, nice to see. I feel that we won't see Abzan doing so good in the foreseeable future though but hopefully it's time for Jund to rise which I believe it will.
Btw: none of them is playing Path which is interesting but I really like it.
Its just Reid Dukes approach. And again, just another evidence that Path is not needed for all the people advocating that Path is needed
I wish you guys saw how much trash the Facebook community wrote about Reid's Abzan list without path when he originally wrote that article before the PT.
Abzan may not be doomed after tomorrow's unban, although it may want to fit a 4th lingering souls if the meta slows down.
And that's correct, he ran neither. In fact, the list seems very different to anything that has come before. You have to remember one thing: it's not an open meta where you might run into a dozen different, unknown decks. They face only a handful of decks, and they have access to the decklists while playing. I believe the deck was built to attack control decks and decks with greedy or difficult mana bases.
Hey Guys!
I´m gonna pilot my most favourite Deck this Weekend on a 64 People Tournamen for my first time.
Decklist is pretty similar to Reid Dukes list except the 2 Field of Ruins instead the Shembling Vent and Twilight Mire to be better in shape with Valakut and Tron.
But my biggest Fear honestly is BBE and JTMS.
I have no Clue about the Meta but i expect some Saheeli Combo, Affinity, Jund, Jace Controll, Zoo and Tron.
What do you think about the Sideboard? How to deal with BBE? I have absolutly no Idea how to deal with it ^^
Thanks for your advice
this list are great. the rock list is like the one played in modern superleague by paul cheon. and the abzan i really like coz its reid list and won gp lyon too. i like pithing needle right now. gud against tron and jace matchups. could even run in jund decks. but right now prefer abzan coz stony is really gud.
I like this list with some exceptions and also think sultai could be pretty good in the new metagame. This deck doesn't belong to this threat though.
That's fair enough, although in my defence, it's basically a BG Rock list modified to splash for Jace... I've tweaked it a bit since, most notably changing the lands a bit, and I'm having a lot of fun with it. Jace and Bob are amazing together !
whats everyone's thoughts regarding Liliana the Veil vs Liliana the Last Hope regarding Human's matchup. Liliana the last hope seem like a great idea in paper because of lots of x/1 creatures but doesn't happen too much in practice. seem like Liliana of the Veil is better.
whats everyone's thoughts regarding Liliana the Veil vs Liliana the Last Hope regarding Human's matchup. Liliana the last hope seem like a great idea in paper because of lots of x/1 creatures but doesn't happen too much in practice. seem like Liliana of the Veil is better.
Both are great. If anything LoTV is a little bit worse imo, since she tends to be a little bit weak against many smaller creatures. However, I personally want both in the matchup.
I know I'm going to catch a lot of grief on this but this is the deck that I want to run this weekend. I know all the things people are going to say but I just can't help myself. This is what I want to do so I'm going to do it.
And yes I know I'm running 3x Rhinos and I should be running 2 or none (especially with Bobs).
I know Doran doesn't look great here and probably shouldn't be played.
The one path seems out of place.
there's only 2 Thoughtseize.... blah blah blah.
I get it. I am aware of all the things wrong here. I just want to do all this stuff again. It all just looks too fun and I'm super greedy. I don't mind giving up wins at an FNM just to cast my Rhinos again
Yea this is all just a pile of fun cards that I wanted to throw back together in a deck and just run with it. Normally I wouldn't run bobs with rhinos or rhinos with bobs but I can't help myself. I want to smash these cards together and call it a deck. I'm excited to have the games where I could lose to bob flipping a rhino. I just want something everyone at the table can have a good laugh about.
I know I'm going to catch a lot of grief on this but this is the deck that I want to run this weekend. I know all the things people are going to say but I just can't help myself. This is what I want to do so I'm going to do it.
And yes I know I'm running 3x Rhinos and I should be running 2 or none (especially with Bobs).
I know Doran doesn't look great here and probably shouldn't be played.
The one path seems out of place.
there's only 2 Thoughtseize.... blah blah blah.
I get it. I am aware of all the things wrong here. I just want to do all this stuff again. It all just looks too fun and I'm super greedy. I don't mind giving up wins at an FNM just to cast my Rhinos again
could work. Rhino pass the Jace test and rhino is big enough to block BBE. the problem is how relevant is Rhino's Lightning Helix.
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Be aware that it does miss manlands. If Control pushes more deck to run manlands, it might be better to use Hero's Downfall.
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
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W Death & Taxes W
Yeah always love to see great results with a GBx deck. Way too few in the last couple months. And from that PT on, we will grind ourself back to the top! Especially with BBE ofc.
Its just Reid Dukes approach. And again, just another evidence that Path is not needed for all the people advocating that Path is needed
Abzan may not be doomed after tomorrow's unban, although it may want to fit a 4th lingering souls if the meta slows down.
You know, the deck lists are available here: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-online/team-modern-super-league-decklists
And that's correct, he ran neither. In fact, the list seems very different to anything that has come before. You have to remember one thing: it's not an open meta where you might run into a dozen different, unknown decks. They face only a handful of decks, and they have access to the decklists while playing. I believe the deck was built to attack control decks and decks with greedy or difficult mana bases.
Here is the actual list:
2 Liliana of the Veil
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
Creature (12)
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Tireless Tracker
1 Ramunap Excavator
Sorcery (12)
4 Thoughtseize
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Collective Brutality
2 Maelstrom Pulse
Instant (6)
2 Abrupt Decay
4 Fatal Push
2 Nihil Spellbomb
Land (25)
4 Field of Ruin
4 Treetop Village
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Forest
4 Swamp
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Twilight Mire
4 Blooming Marsh
1 Ramunap Excavator
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
2 Ghost Quarter
1 Pithing Needle
2 Obstinate Baloth
1 Golgari Charm
1 Creeping Corrosion
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Dismember
1 Duress
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
Legacy
W Death & Taxes W
You have the best card against BBE and Jace only as a 3-of in your deck: Lingering Souls.
2 Liliana of the Veil
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
1 Ramunap Excavator
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Tireless Tracker
3 Collective Brutality
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Maelstrom Pulse
4 Thoughtseize
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Dismember
4 Fatal Push
2 Nihil Spellbomb
4 Blooming Marsh
4 Field of Ruin
1 Forest
2 Overgrown Tomb
4 Swamp
4 Treetop Village
1 Twilight Mire
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Ramunap Excavator
1 Back to Nature
1 Creeping Corrosion
1 Duress
1 Extirpate
1 Gaze of Granite
2 Ghost Quarter
1 Golgari Charm
1 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
1 Night of Souls' Betrayal
2 Obstinate Baloth
1 Pithing Needle
1 Slaughter Pact
4 Liliana of the Veil
4 Dark Confidant
2 Grim Flayer
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Tarmogoyf
1 Tireless Tracker
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Lingering Souls
2 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Thoughtseize
2 Abrupt Decay
4 Fatal Push
2 Nihil Spellbomb
3 Blooming Marsh
2 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
4 Marsh Flats
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Shambling Vent
2 Swamp
1 Temple Garden
2 Treetop Village
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Windswept Heath
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Tireless Tracker
3 Collective Brutality
1 Damnation
1 Engineered Explosives
3 Fulminator Mage
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
2 Pithing Needle
2 Stony Silence
this list are great. the rock list is like the one played in modern superleague by paul cheon. and the abzan i really like coz its reid list and won gp lyon too. i like pithing needle right now. gud against tron and jace matchups. could even run in jund decks. but right now prefer abzan coz stony is really gud.
That's fair enough, although in my defence, it's basically a BG Rock list modified to splash for Jace... I've tweaked it a bit since, most notably changing the lands a bit, and I'm having a lot of fun with it. Jace and Bob are amazing together !
Both are great. If anything LoTV is a little bit worse imo, since she tends to be a little bit weak against many smaller creatures. However, I personally want both in the matchup.
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Dark Confidant
3 Siege Rhino
1 Doran, the Siege Tower
Planeswalkers:
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
Instant/Sorcery:
3 Fatal Push
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Maelstrom Pulse
4 Lingering Souls
2 Collective Brutality
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize
1 Path to Exile
4 Verdant Catacomb
3 Marsh Flats
2 Windswept Heath
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Godless Shrine
1 Temple Garden
2 Shambling Vents
1 Twilight Mire
2 Treetop Village
2 Blooming Marsh
2 Swamp
1 Forest
1 Plains
1 Anafenza, the Foremost
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Engineered Explosives
3 Fulminator Mage
1 Damnation
3 Kitchen Finks
1 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Stony Silence
And yes I know I'm running 3x Rhinos and I should be running 2 or none (especially with Bobs).
I know Doran doesn't look great here and probably shouldn't be played.
The one path seems out of place.
there's only 2 Thoughtseize.... blah blah blah.
I get it. I am aware of all the things wrong here. I just want to do all this stuff again. It all just looks too fun and I'm super greedy. I don't mind giving up wins at an FNM just to cast my Rhinos again
could work. Rhino pass the Jace test and rhino is big enough to block BBE. the problem is how relevant is Rhino's Lightning Helix.