I love Ghor, it took me a while to appreciate the card. It honestly wins me a lot of game 1's
Yesterday on mtgo, game 1 I played some kind of mono white deck that played Squadron Hawks, Ranger of Eos, Martyr of Sands, etc
He kept chump blocking and gaining mass amounts of life
He gets me down to 2 life, I tutored for Rampager a turn before, I crack a land for 1 the next turn, swing with Shadow, play Ghor and then cast a lemur battle rage for a 16/16 trampling double striker, he went from 26 life to -8 with a blocker. He was extremely salty and left before sideboards came up
I would say this is just me recognizing a card being good when it does work, but Ghor and Temur battle-rages have seriously stolen games I had no business winning, they've definitely earned 3x spots for me.
I love Ghor, it took me a while to appreciate the card. It honestly wins me a lot of game 1's
Yesterday on mtgo, game 1 I played some kind of mono white deck that played Squadron Hawks, Ranger of Eos, Martyr of Sands, etc
He kept chump blocking and gaining mass amounts of life
He gets me down to 2 life, I tutored for Rampager a turn before, I crack a land for 1 the next turn, swing with Shadow, play Ghor and then cast a lemur battle rage for a 16/16 trampling double striker, he went from 26 life to -8 with a blocker. He was extremely salty and left before sideboards came up
I would say this is just me recognizing a card being good when it does work, but Ghor and Temur battle-rages have seriously stolen games I had no business winning, they've definitely earned 3x spots for me.
I mean sure, it's won us ALL games...but are you weighing all of the data, or just focusing on the games where it was good? Because I loved the card at first and for that exact reason--"it won me that one game that one time." But after reviewing all of my games, it has lost me at least as many games as it has won me because almost every time I drew it something else would've been better (again, in my case I was comparing vs the Brutality I would like to move into the MB to free up a SB slot). So I have to weigh those 1% of games where you want to tutor for it vs. the games where you draw it and don't want it.
I mean, even in your example, if he went to -8 you didn't even need the Ghor-clan. Dand don't mistake, I am only talking about Ghor-clan...TBR has clearly earned it's spot for me.
Ghor-clan won me a game once as i simply hardcasted it and trampled over for the win
I had a game like this too, but when I watched it back Brutality would've been so much better. I had it in my opening hand against Abzan and if it had been Brutality I would've discarded his Path and my Shadow never would've died. Or if they're at 2 life you just drain for 2. I don't know the specifics of your game, but you could also consider if another card would've been good too.
Abzan is a bad match. The chance of you keeping him off of all his removal is much less likely than ghor clan letting you trample in for lethal. That one game does not mean brutality is always better than ghorclan in your hand.
Yeah, you're zapping yourself too much. You want to strip their hands and keep them in top deck mode. Go for Goyfs instead and beat face. Play shadow IF you hit low enough, but don't race to do so. You want to keep your life at a fair level unless they're tapped out and you can just kill them on that swing.
I need a help against Burn. I thought it's a good matchup for us but I just played against it and got completely wrecked. Maybe I payed too much life to play Death's Shadow and when I was low enough to play it he had enough burn in hand to kill me. I don't know what to do about it. I can be more careful about my life total but them I won't be able to play Death's Shadow on time or risk and go low enough to play it but then I'll be very vulnerable to all burn he has.
Game 1, you need to fetch for basics when you can, or tapped shocks. Handling their creatures is more important, especially Eidolon. Make sure to keep an uncracked fetch or Street Wraith in hand if you drop a 1/1 or 2/2 Death shadow.
After SB, side in any collective brutalities. I would cut street wraiths before thoughtseize, as its imperative to make them discard Path to exile, Deflecting Palms and Eidolons.
I need a help against Burn. I thought it's a good matchup for us but I just played against it and got completely wrecked. Maybe I payed too much life to play Death's Shadow and when I was low enough to play it he had enough burn in hand to kill me. I don't know what to do about it. I can be more careful about my life total but them I won't be able to play Death's Shadow on time or risk and go low enough to play it but then I'll be very vulnerable to all burn he has.
If you just don't hurt youself and fetch for 1 instead of 3 then it becomes very awkward for the burn Player. It certainly can end up in a Situation for the burn player where its: if he deals too few dmg to you he is dead and if he deals to much dmg to you he is also dead.
Concerning ghor, i can see that he is sometimes quite mediocre but right now I haven't experienced overly bad times with him. I did run renegade rallier in his Spot once, but didn't like it i can say.
I LOVE the new Lilly, but she's more of a bomb sideboard card than maindeck. She just felt awful to play against decks that don't run creatures. LOTV only feels bad against tokens/aggro that goes wide.
The two lilies really work well with one another, they're good against the decks they're bad against. 2x LTLH has been great in the sideboard in Junk and Shadow (I play 1x LTLH in the mainboard of junk).
Ok, so I haven't had time to test it yet, but I'm considering 1 architect of will in the mb. Not 100% on what I would drop, but it would give us a 5th cantrip critter and artifact for delirium/goyf
Ok, so I haven't had time to test it yet, but I'm considering 1 architect of will in the mb. Not 100% on what I would drop, but it would give us a 5th cantrip critter and artifact for delirium/goyf
My gut feeling is that this won't be worth it. Test it out, of course.
It'll make all your midrange matchups worse, due to filling your deck with "do-nothing" synergy stuff.
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Ok, so I haven't had time to test it yet, but I'm considering 1 architect of will in the mb. Not 100% on what I would drop, but it would give us a 5th cantrip critter and artifact for delirium/goyf
My gut feeling is that this won't be worth it. Test it out, of course.
It'll make all your midrange matchups worse, due to filling your deck with "do-nothing" synergy stuff.
If he was set on playing such a card, wouldn't night's whisper be better?
I don't like Big Game hunter but i'd play it over Shriekmaw
Yesterday on mtgo, game 1 I played some kind of mono white deck that played Squadron Hawks, Ranger of Eos, Martyr of Sands, etc
He kept chump blocking and gaining mass amounts of life
He gets me down to 2 life, I tutored for Rampager a turn before, I crack a land for 1 the next turn, swing with Shadow, play Ghor and then cast a lemur battle rage for a 16/16 trampling double striker, he went from 26 life to -8 with a blocker. He was extremely salty and left before sideboards came up
I would say this is just me recognizing a card being good when it does work, but Ghor and Temur battle-rages have seriously stolen games I had no business winning, they've definitely earned 3x spots for me.
I mean sure, it's won us ALL games...but are you weighing all of the data, or just focusing on the games where it was good? Because I loved the card at first and for that exact reason--"it won me that one game that one time." But after reviewing all of my games, it has lost me at least as many games as it has won me because almost every time I drew it something else would've been better (again, in my case I was comparing vs the Brutality I would like to move into the MB to free up a SB slot). So I have to weigh those 1% of games where you want to tutor for it vs. the games where you draw it and don't want it.
I mean, even in your example, if he went to -8 you didn't even need the Ghor-clan. Dand don't mistake, I am only talking about Ghor-clan...TBR has clearly earned it's spot for me.
I had a game like this too, but when I watched it back Brutality would've been so much better. I had it in my opening hand against Abzan and if it had been Brutality I would've discarded his Path and my Shadow never would've died. Or if they're at 2 life you just drain for 2. I don't know the specifics of your game, but you could also consider if another card would've been good too.
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If Urza's Bauble is legal than that works, but it's a very *****ty alternative.
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Playing:
Death's Shadow Jund
Played:
Kiki Chord, Zoo variants, Goblins, Burn
Game 1, you need to fetch for basics when you can, or tapped shocks. Handling their creatures is more important, especially Eidolon. Make sure to keep an uncracked fetch or Street Wraith in hand if you drop a 1/1 or 2/2 Death shadow.
After SB, side in any collective brutalities. I would cut street wraiths before thoughtseize, as its imperative to make them discard Path to exile, Deflecting Palms and Eidolons.
Affinity
Legacy:
GBCombo Elves
EDH:
GEzuri, Renegade Leader's Elf Ball
Cube:
180 Peasant Micro Cube
If you just don't hurt youself and fetch for 1 instead of 3 then it becomes very awkward for the burn Player. It certainly can end up in a Situation for the burn player where its: if he deals too few dmg to you he is dead and if he deals to much dmg to you he is also dead.
Concerning ghor, i can see that he is sometimes quite mediocre but right now I haven't experienced overly bad times with him. I did run renegade rallier in his Spot once, but didn't like it i can say.
You could play Liliana, the last hope as a 2x of
There is no alternative to not playing one of the two though
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Death's Shadow Jund
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My gut feeling is that this won't be worth it. Test it out, of course.
It'll make all your midrange matchups worse, due to filling your deck with "do-nothing" synergy stuff.
If he was set on playing such a card, wouldn't night's whisper be better?
Affinity
Legacy:
GBCombo Elves
EDH:
GEzuri, Renegade Leader's Elf Ball
Cube:
180 Peasant Micro Cube