I think affinity is enough of a positive matchup that you don't need the stony silences. 0 Ghostly prison 0 Stony 3 ghost quarter is pretty low though, you might need it. How has your affinity matchup been so far?
Generally I am not opposed to cutting the stony silences, but I haven't tried since cutting prison. I think this is something that will require specific testing.
Sometimes loose first to my bad hands/topdecks but mostly win without prisons/stony. With stony win all my games. I think it's possible still to have good winrate against affinity but not sure.
I cutted 4th GQ bcs I'm not trying to hate tron decks and 3 is optimal for other match ups with improving my manabase. That's why I'm not playing surgicals.
Fell without them uncomfortable but in other matches except tron Spellbombs are better.
(Had hands without any colour source - had to mulligan that hands )
If I'll cut stony I'll get another problem - what to add?
A 2 mana 1/1 that doesn't really have much of an impact on it's own seems suspect for modern. You can't tutor for it or reanimate it and it's flip side isn't quite as good as Ascendant's flip side. I actually don't think it is that easy to flip either. Essentially the only life gain card in the deck is Martyr of Sands, which makes this a 4 mana 2 card combo for a 4/4 that can easily bite the dust at any moment. Serra Ascendant can be recurred, so it is significantly more resilient.
Hey guys, you might remember me from a couple of pages back, ended up keeping the deck for myself, and Instead got my fiancee some foil EDH cards she was missing.
So I was browsing through a bulk I purchased online and found [cardDragonmaster Outcast[/card] Been playing orzhov for a bit, has anyone considered/tested him? Seems to be a good fit, its not white for martyr, but running 1 or 2 MD wouldn't hurt much, would it? Can be tutored with ranger and recurred, and creates a really fast clock, however I'm not sure if it triggers if recurred with emeria/forecasted Proc (gonna ask about it in the rules subforum).
He does not trigger on the turn you recur him, however a lot of people have switched to Mardu for Nahiri. I personally haven't tested him recently enough to know how good he is. Maybe Lear has?
Doesn't like it. We already have a lot of advantage cards and wincons.
He's really bad topdeck im early\midgame, not greate in lategame.
Don't see him any usefull.
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What is your metagame in total?
Better play 3 Leyline of sanctity minimum - we want them have in hand with max chance.
2nd Weathered wayfarer is a bit too much, better add more usefull card. Loyal Sentry - this card is just bad. He can't kill anything we want and doesn't impact board somehow. Burrenton Forge-Tender and Kor Firewalker are just overmuch for burn deck, especially for monoW version. Sunlance - very bad sorcery removal. Eidolon of Rhetoric and Ethersworn Canonist do the same role but Eidolon is a bit more ultimative and Canonist is a bit faster and better with Sun titan in main. Also be carefull not to hate yourself.
Also I don't like Oblivion ring cards - they're too vulnerable in modern format and without Sun titan in main they're just too weak.
I think in near future we will play with a lot of KikiCord, Melira and BGx decks. Infect will die with tonns of Melira decks and some UWR Nahiri.
What your thoughts?
How do we feel about Blind Obedience to replace or even supplement Ghostly Prison out of the side? Every deck I played last night went in for Nahiri. Being able to ping through some decks seems helpful, too.
Nahiri it's too difficult to kill with tiny creatures. Because of The +2. It's the same difficult to deal with Liliana of the Veil. Imagine a board with two squadron hawks, a planeswalker can kill/exile one, then the plus ability will negate the effect of the other Hawk. Jund uses this very often.
Celestial Purge take care of the problem, for good.
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I'm probably going to be playing Nahiri martyr proc for some upcoming pptqs. I might play Ayli proc though. Once they get closer I'll let you guys know what I decide.
It's for now. (Sad that this metgame is not on dailies)
With Eldritch Evolution Melira decks will have disrapt (PtE, TS and etc) and good option with new tutor to play around Kalitas and grind Jund out.
That's why Melira Combo will rise (Thune combo? Fider combo? Dunno how to call it now) and Infect will fall to small % of meta as bad joice. We will get small Birthing pod.deck without pod.
Last Sunday in Moscow on WMCQ was this meta:
19 Naya Burn
18 Jund
14 UWR Nahiri
10 Infect
10 UrzaTron
8 Junk
8 Melira Company
5 Dredge
5 Affinity
5 Elves
5 Grixis Control
4 Boggles
4 Scapeshift
4 Suicide Zoo
3 UWR Control
3 Merfolks
3 Blue Moon
3 Grixis Delver
3 Grizelshoal
3 UWR Tempo
3 BW Tokens
2 Mardu Martyr
2 Ad Nauseam
2 BW Eldrazi
2 MonoU Turns
1 Esper Control
1 Tireless Bant
1 Storm
1 MonoU Ninja
1 Kiki Chord
1 Lantern Control
1 GW Hatebears
1 Living End
1 UW Titan
1 Nivmagus Combo
1 UWR Kiki
1 RG Breach
1 Bant Eldrazi
1 Zoo
1 UB Fiery
1 Mardu Control
Won infect against Dredge in top2. Meta is incredibly good for Martyr but I think to Septer (my 2nd WMCQ in Moscow) will be a very different meta.
Generally I am not opposed to cutting the stony silences, but I haven't tried since cutting prison. I think this is something that will require specific testing.
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I cutted 4th GQ bcs I'm not trying to hate tron decks and 3 is optimal for other match ups with improving my manabase. That's why I'm not playing surgicals.
Fell without them uncomfortable but in other matches except tron Spellbombs are better.
(Had hands without any colour source - had to mulligan that hands )
If I'll cut stony I'll get another problem - what to add?
also what do you guys think about the recently spoiled
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So I was browsing through a bulk I purchased online and found [cardDragonmaster Outcast[/card] Been playing orzhov for a bit, has anyone considered/tested him? Seems to be a good fit, its not white for martyr, but running 1 or 2 MD wouldn't hurt much, would it? Can be tutored with ranger and recurred, and creates a really fast clock, however I'm not sure if it triggers if recurred with emeria/forecasted Proc (gonna ask about it in the rules subforum).
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I don't really like the nahiri idea tbh, but if its that good I might just try her.
I tested some with Dragonmaster yesterday, not disappointed, will try him at tonight's FNM.
Number002, do you have the list?
Modern: Soul Sisters
Commander: Isperia, Supreme Judge
He's really bad topdeck im early\midgame, not greate in lategame.
Don't see him any usefull.
What is your metagame in total?
Better play 3 Leyline of sanctity minimum - we want them have in hand with max chance.
2nd Weathered wayfarer is a bit too much, better add more usefull card.
Loyal Sentry - this card is just bad. He can't kill anything we want and doesn't impact board somehow.
Burrenton Forge-Tender and Kor Firewalker are just overmuch for burn deck, especially for monoW version.
Sunlance - very bad sorcery removal.
Eidolon of Rhetoric and Ethersworn Canonist do the same role but Eidolon is a bit more ultimative and Canonist is a bit faster and better with Sun titan in main. Also be carefull not to hate yourself.
Also I don't like Oblivion ring cards - they're too vulnerable in modern format and without Sun titan in main they're just too weak.
And why you're not playing Flagstone of trokair? They're great against LD and with Ghost quarter
After spoiled Eldritch Evolution and new HtT I think about further antimidrange list:
2 Emeria, the sky ruin
1 Mistveil plains
3 Ghost quarter
4 Marsh flats
2 Windswept heath
3 Sacred foundry
3 Godless shrine
1 Blood crypt
2 Shambling vent
2 Plains
1 Swamp
1cc (15):
1 Kami of false hope
1 Thraben inspector
1 Weathered wayfarer
4 Serra ascendant
4 Martyr of sands
4 Path to exile
4 Squadron hawk
3cc (3):
3 Proclamation of rebirth
4cc (11):
4 Wrath of god
3 Nahiri, the harbinger
4 Ranger of Eos
5cc (2):
2 Gideon Jura
15cc (1):
1 Emrakul, the Aeons torn
3 Surgical extraction
1 Hex parasite
1 Kami of false hope
2 Anguished unmaking
3 Crackling doom
3 Slaughter games
1 Curse of death's hold
1 Blood baron of Vizkopa
I think in near future we will play with a lot of KikiCord, Melira and BGx decks. Infect will die with tonns of Melira decks and some UWR Nahiri.
What your thoughts?
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Maybe I'm just trying too hard to force it.
Nahiri it's too difficult to kill with tiny creatures. Because of The +2. It's the same difficult to deal with Liliana of the Veil. Imagine a board with two squadron hawks, a planeswalker can kill/exile one, then the plus ability will negate the effect of the other Hawk. Jund uses this very often.
Celestial Purge take care of the problem, for good.
Modern: Soul Sisters
Commander: Isperia, Supreme Judge
I'm probably going to be playing Nahiri martyr proc for some upcoming pptqs. I might play Ayli proc though. Once they get closer I'll let you guys know what I decide.
Modern: MartyrProc (Control/Prison) Check out my Primer!
Commander: Karador
Pauper: Ub Reanimator
Legacy: Young Frankenstein/Dredge/The Spanish Inquisition
Casual: 5Color Zendikar Combo
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I am using Wall of Omens in my Ayli Proc. What are your thoughts?
( don't have my list right now to share)
Modern: Soul Sisters
Commander: Isperia, Supreme Judge
With Eldritch Evolution Melira decks will have disrapt (PtE, TS and etc) and good option with new tutor to play around Kalitas and grind Jund out.
That's why Melira Combo will rise (Thune combo? Fider combo? Dunno how to call it now) and Infect will fall to small % of meta as bad joice. We will get small Birthing pod.deck without pod.
Last Sunday in Moscow on WMCQ was this meta:
19 Naya Burn
18 Jund
14 UWR Nahiri
10 Infect
10 UrzaTron
8 Junk
8 Melira Company
5 Dredge
5 Affinity
5 Elves
5 Grixis Control
4 Boggles
4 Scapeshift
4 Suicide Zoo
3 UWR Control
3 Merfolks
3 Blue Moon
3 Grixis Delver
3 Grizelshoal
3 UWR Tempo
3 BW Tokens
2 Mardu Martyr
2 Ad Nauseam
2 BW Eldrazi
2 MonoU Turns
1 Esper Control
1 Tireless Bant
1 Storm
1 MonoU Ninja
1 Kiki Chord
1 Lantern Control
1 GW Hatebears
1 Living End
1 UW Titan
1 Nivmagus Combo
1 UWR Kiki
1 RG Breach
1 Bant Eldrazi
1 Zoo
1 UB Fiery
1 Mardu Control
Won infect against Dredge in top2. Meta is incredibly good for Martyr but I think to Septer (my 2nd WMCQ in Moscow) will be a very different meta.
Modern: MartyrProc (Control/Prison) Check out my Primer!
Commander: Karador
Pauper: Ub Reanimator
Legacy: Young Frankenstein/Dredge/The Spanish Inquisition
Casual: 5Color Zendikar Combo
MartyrProc
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MartyrProc. List citation is incorrect.
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twitter: @Dave_Cordeiro
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBizarroDavid