I hope they don't print containment priest or we are f*cked
Check out the rulings for on Containment Priest: "If Containment Priest enters the battlefield at the same time as other creatures, its ability won’t affect those creatures." ... and now read Living End again: "Each player exiles all creature cards from their graveyard, then sacrifices all creatures they control, then puts all cards they exiled this way onto the battlefield."
This means Containment Priest in the GY can't stop a Living End and a flashed-in Containment Priest in response to LE doesn't help either.
Actually it's the other way around. Having Containment Priest in Modern would be amazing for us.
A Containment Priest reprint would give white decks access to a very strong anti-phoenix, anti-dredge, anti-grishoalbrand card, making these decks worse. If these decks became worse, people would switch away from traditional GY decks, and when they become more rare, other people would run less hate like Surgical & Leyline. The less traditional GY decks are present in the meta, the stronger Living End becomes.
tl;dr: Containment Priest doesn't do ***** against us but means fewer GY decks and fewer Leylines will be played.
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UW is rough even worse when they can fetch to basics and play normally. It is worse that Jeskai by far in my opinion. Use fulminator mage and beast within to get rid of lands, and have a target for Demonic Dread. Play 2-3 Ricochet Traps in your sideboard, try to get rid of enough white sources. Watch out for settle the wrackage too, but this one you can avoid more easily and ricochet it for 4 mana.
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"Affinity is like the Christian religion. You got the old testament and the new. The old one was full of real affinity cards and then the new testament Metalcraft came along. Now with Hardened Scales the new Church of Affinity split up in two, just like the Catholics and Protestants." BRG Living End BRG G Hardened Scales Affinity G
One other plan against U/W is just avoid going all in. They aren’t going to beat us quickly. Generally, try to blow up their nonbasics while and get to 5 lands. Then start hardcasting draft chaff. If they counter it, fine, you can cascade later. If they Path it, you have more lands to cast fatties. Play Simian Spirit Guide as a 2/2 and beat down. Eventually they have to tap out to answer and you can hopefully kill them in one shot.
With the new mulligan rules, is anyone thinking about running 8x Leylines? I know people have done it from time to time in LE. The odds of finding one or both are pretty high. Sanctity just doesn’t seem nearly as necessary as The Void right now though. Still, I wonder if we’ll see an uptick in combo since it’ll be a little easier to dig for pieces. Just curious what y’all’s thoughts are. I live under a rock, so I just found out about the rule change.
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With the new mulligan rules, is anyone thinking about running 8x Leylines? I know people have done it from time to time in LE. The odds of finding one or both are pretty high. Sanctity just doesn’t seem nearly as necessary as The Void right now though. Still, I wonder if we’ll see an uptick in combo since it’ll be a little easier to dig for pieces. Just curious what y’all’s thoughts are. I live under a rock, so I just found out about the rule change.
I’ve done it in the past. I definitely think 4x LotV make sense, plus 3-4 Faeries in the MB. I don’t believe the mulligan rule has officially been changed yet, so there is that.
Though I believe Leylines have seriously spiked since they announced there would be testing. So possibly too late either way.
Well there goes our white-blue matchup. Against Flusterstorm AND Prohibit not even Ricochet Trap really helps now... Plus the Force of Negation I am very sad
"Affinity is like the Christian religion. You got the old testament and the new. The old one was full of real affinity cards and then the new testament Metalcraft came along. Now with Hardened Scales the new Church of Affinity split up in two, just like the Catholics and Protestants." BRG Living End BRG G Hardened Scales Affinity G
"Affinity is like the Christian religion. You got the old testament and the new. The old one was full of real affinity cards and then the new testament Metalcraft came along. Now with Hardened Scales the new Church of Affinity split up in two, just like the Catholics and Protestants." BRG Living End BRG G Hardened Scales Affinity G
RW Blaze Commando Soldier Swarm BW Edgewalker Clerics i.e. All the prevention R Ogre Menial (Fallen Feromancer) Tunnelin' Infectors GB Shaman of the Pack Elves URReclusive Artificer Artifact Control GBCatacomb Sifter Sac-Attack
Tiny Leader Decks
WU Geist of Saint Traft WKembha's Cats WRG Marath Slide Control
Seasoned Pyromancer - Allows us to use non cycling creatures and dig for cards we need while providing a body Force of Vigor - Massive sideboard card for us Prismatic Vista - Possibly playable for us in compliment to fetch lands.
RW Blaze Commando Soldier Swarm BW Edgewalker Clerics i.e. All the prevention R Ogre Menial (Fallen Feromancer) Tunnelin' Infectors GB Shaman of the Pack Elves URReclusive Artificer Artifact Control GBCatacomb Sifter Sac-Attack
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WU Geist of Saint Traft WKembha's Cats WRG Marath Slide Control
So we get more or less left out of any shot in the arm from MH save a few potential sideboard hopefuls? I feel it was intentional. Here's to hoping a shift in power results from new hate toward our thorns in the side and perhaps some potential newish archetypes infuencing the meta. Seems to me that it's more likely we will continue to have the same issues to fight through. Time will tell...
In my list I see it replacing Monstrous carabid.
Pros: doesnt have to suicide attack, its cheaper to hard cast, haste can really help against control, bounce protect them against wraths
Cons: if it cant attack, it will get bounced back, 1 toughtness can be bad against random small creatures LE brings back for out opponent (but trample can balance this lightly), if you cast LE only with bunch of these guys and dont kill with one attack, it can be awkward...
For me, I see it as an upgrade, definitely gonna try it. More I think about it, I could really be a great tool against UW control. On turn 3 you can start whacking with this and it stays protected from wrath/sorcery speed removal. If they counter it, good, one less counter for LE. Also, sometimes you have to cast LE in your turn, only to see terminus/verdict on their turn and these guys just laugh to that. What do you think?
In my list I see it replacing Monstrous carabid.
Pros: doesnt have to suicide attack, its cheaper to hard cast, haste can really help against control, bounce protect them against wraths
Cons: if it cant attack, it will get bounced back, 1 toughtness can be bad against random small creatures LE brings back for out opponent (but trample can balance this lightly), if you cast LE only with bunch of these guys and dont kill with one attack, it can be awkward...
For me, I see it as an upgrade, definitely gonna try it. More I think about it, I could really be a great tool against UW control. On turn 3 you can start whacking with this and it stays protected from wrath/sorcery speed removal. If they counter it, good, one less counter for LE. Also, sometimes you have to cast LE in your turn, only to see terminus/verdict on their turn and these guys just laugh to that. What do you think?
I like him but that one toughness doesn't make me happy. It does improve the hard cast plan but I think the trample damage isn't going to be relevent enough off LE for our plan A. Hope I'm wrong. I will certainly try him out. He could be a great fit in "that other LE deck".
This ist the Magic Aids' try on living end and all the current graveyard hate. I like it and I will test it for sure.
I'm not sure about bloodbraid and blood moon, but I love the sideboard plan with the rhinos
Like many of my builds, this one showcases the power of a particular card. Here, that card is Crashing Footfalls.
The problem with Living End as a deck is it's hit by all the graveyard hate people are packing for decks like Dredge, the Hogaak Dredgevine deck, Phoenix decks, and a slew of others. The solution is to have a way to transform into something that does not use the graveyard and still has a ton of power. The card that allows that is Crashing Footfalls, giving you two 4/4 rhinos for only 3 mana, while also giving you something respectable to do on turn 1.
This build has a land destruction component to give you free wins against decks that would normally give you trouble, especially game 1. This includes other graveyard decks, control, and superfriends. Keeping them off a color and killing them quickly can win you games you otherwise couldn't.
After game 1, they will hopefully side in a bunch of graveyard hate to discover that you don't use the graveyard anymore, and will hilariously lose in short order to stampeding rhinos with a bunch of dead cards.
As a side note, the mana base is affordable, and isn't weak to fetchland hate, which is on the rise. The entire deck can be built on a budget and I recommend it for anyone who is just getting into Modern.
Check out the rulings for on Containment Priest: "If Containment Priest enters the battlefield at the same time as other creatures, its ability won’t affect those creatures." ... and now read Living End again: "Each player exiles all creature cards from their graveyard, then sacrifices all creatures they control, then puts all cards they exiled this way onto the battlefield."
This means Containment Priest in the GY can't stop a Living End and a flashed-in Containment Priest in response to LE doesn't help either.
Actually it's the other way around. Having Containment Priest in Modern would be amazing for us.
A Containment Priest reprint would give white decks access to a very strong anti-phoenix, anti-dredge, anti-grishoalbrand card, making these decks worse. If these decks became worse, people would switch away from traditional GY decks, and when they become more rare, other people would run less hate like Surgical & Leyline. The less traditional GY decks are present in the meta, the stronger Living End becomes.
tl;dr: Containment Priest doesn't do ***** against us but means fewer GY decks and fewer Leylines will be played.
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Playin Living End for half a year now at my FNMs and even some bigger events in Germany.
Right now im testing one Urborg main and no Leylines at all.
Went 3-1 yesterday.
2:0 Mardu Pyromancer
2:1 Storm
2:0 Grixis Deaths Shadow
0:2 UW Control.
I HATE UW Control.
Terminus is like an auto-scoop...
Any suggestions to solve my problem?
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I’ve done it in the past. I definitely think 4x LotV make sense, plus 3-4 Faeries in the MB. I don’t believe the mulligan rule has officially been changed yet, so there is that.
Though I believe Leylines have seriously spiked since they announced there would be testing. So possibly too late either way.
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i am more exited on cycling coming back on modern horizon. we will have new toys to play around
Imagine this against an burn decks board of rest in peace and Eidolon of the great Revel or against a leyline of the void and chalice of the void
What do you think, 3 or 4 ones in the 75?
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Maybe a place in the Jund builds.
EDH DECKS:
GBCatacomb Sifter Sac-Attack
Seasoned Pyromancer - Allows us to use non cycling creatures and dig for cards we need while providing a body
Force of Vigor - Massive sideboard card for us
Prismatic Vista - Possibly playable for us in compliment to fetch lands.
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GBCatacomb Sifter Sac-Attack
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In my list I see it replacing Monstrous carabid.
Pros: doesnt have to suicide attack, its cheaper to hard cast, haste can really help against control, bounce protect them against wraths
Cons: if it cant attack, it will get bounced back, 1 toughtness can be bad against random small creatures LE brings back for out opponent (but trample can balance this lightly), if you cast LE only with bunch of these guys and dont kill with one attack, it can be awkward...
For me, I see it as an upgrade, definitely gonna try it. More I think about it, I could really be a great tool against UW control. On turn 3 you can start whacking with this and it stays protected from wrath/sorcery speed removal. If they counter it, good, one less counter for LE. Also, sometimes you have to cast LE in your turn, only to see terminus/verdict on their turn and these guys just laugh to that. What do you think?
I like him but that one toughness doesn't make me happy. It does improve the hard cast plan but I think the trample damage isn't going to be relevent enough off LE for our plan A. Hope I'm wrong. I will certainly try him out. He could be a great fit in "that other LE deck".
Could someone publish an updated list before they close the forum? Thank you
This ist the Magic Aids' try on living end and all the current graveyard hate. I like it and I will test it for sure.
I'm not sure about bloodbraid and blood moon, but I love the sideboard plan with the rhinos
4 Llanowar Wastes
4 Karplusan Forest
4 Sulfurous Springs
4 Graven Cairns
3 Forest
1 Stomping Ground
CREATURES (25):
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Fulminator Mage
4 Street Wraith
4 Horror of the Broken Lands
4 Monstrous Carabid
4 Desert Cerodon
1 Faerie Macabre
4 Beast Within
4 Violent Outburst
SORCERIES (7):
4 Demonic Dread
3 Living End
4 Crashing Footfalls
3 Faerie Macabre
2 Brindle Boar
2 Anger of the Gods
2 Ricochet Trap
2 Ingot Chewer
Like many of my builds, this one showcases the power of a particular card. Here, that card is Crashing Footfalls.
The problem with Living End as a deck is it's hit by all the graveyard hate people are packing for decks like Dredge, the Hogaak Dredgevine deck, Phoenix decks, and a slew of others. The solution is to have a way to transform into something that does not use the graveyard and still has a ton of power. The card that allows that is Crashing Footfalls, giving you two 4/4 rhinos for only 3 mana, while also giving you something respectable to do on turn 1.
This build has a land destruction component to give you free wins against decks that would normally give you trouble, especially game 1. This includes other graveyard decks, control, and superfriends. Keeping them off a color and killing them quickly can win you games you otherwise couldn't.
After game 1, they will hopefully side in a bunch of graveyard hate to discover that you don't use the graveyard anymore, and will hilariously lose in short order to stampeding rhinos with a bunch of dead cards.
As a side note, the mana base is affordable, and isn't weak to fetchland hate, which is on the rise. The entire deck can be built on a budget and I recommend it for anyone who is just getting into Modern.
this a latest list topped in 2019..
what do you think about it? blood moon? BBE?