@Torpf, I concur every word you say !
Call's reprint is huge. Instead of paying 4 to reveal the top 6 and pray, you pay 4 to get the right card and cast it. The card is scary in combo decks overall (Allosaurus Combo also comes into mind).
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Eladamri's Call becoming legal in the format is very neat as it just adds to our arsenal of single-creature tutors. It could open up the Aether Vial version of the deck that people have tried before as you can EOT tutor for a Druid, and then Vial it in. If Company is dropped for it then it removes the 3cmc restriction of the deck which opens up a lot of potentials...
Losing the 3 cmc cap and the need for a high density of creatures is a really big deal.
I think Aether Vial is a really different deck. Maybe just MOST in Modern, with default wincon being Druid Combo.
Carrion Feeder reprint seems interesting. Could potentially see a return to builds running viscera seer, especially with the addition of eldamaris call.
Each piece of the combo now has an additional piece of redundancy, if that's the way you wanted to go. Could toss in devoted druid for an alternate wincon and go "all in" on it.
I think the Company shell may be on its way out. Laplasjan, the god of the no-Finks, Knight of the Reliquary shell of Counters Company, has changed Company to Arkbow. If you chose to skip the value and go just for Druid combo, there are better shells. Also Eldadmri's Call is shaking things up. And as multiple people have mentioned, every piece of Melira combo now has redundancy (due to 4 cmc on redcap, Melira combo is probably mutually exclusive with Company).
My main reasons to still play Company are lots of midrange locally and the ability to slam a Finks or two through Eidolon of the Great Revel.
working on Bant Counters Company. IMO, having midrange options in this format seems better than going all in on combo with the Abzan list. Still working on the SB, but will probably have 4 graveyard hate cards at a minimum and Blast Zone. Opinions or questions? Recently took it to a 25+ Modern Monday tournament and went 4-1, facing Phoenix 3 times and winning 2 out of those three times. Also crushed elves and a mono U deck as well.
Depends on how you want to play, but I've been advised against Disenchant effects in the maindeck. You're effectively devoting maindeck slots to other peoples' sideboard cards (which aren't in your opponents' maindecks). I think cutting Knight of Autumn and Qasali Pridemage for Deputy of Detention will benefit you a lot. Knight of Autumn and Qasali Pridemage can still go in the SB.
Depends on how you want to play, but I've been advised against Disenchant effects in the maindeck. You're effectively devoting maindeck slots to other peoples' sideboard cards (which aren't in your opponents' maindecks). I think cutting Knight of Autumn and Qasali Pridemage for Deputy of Detention will benefit you a lot. Knight of Autumn and Qasali Pridemage can still go in the SB.
That's actually very helpful advice, I think I will do that. thanks!
What about this deck? My only problem is to know excatly the perfect number for tutors. Give me your opinions please¡¡¡ I want to reach the most optimized list:
Looks like the deck is changing significantly with all the new cards. I've been playtesting this version and doing exceptionally well with it. I beat Burn, UR Phoenix, and Humans. The list plays no Chords and no Coco as it really doesn't need them anymore. It also no longer plays Kitchen Finks combo, which is fine as the deck gets MUCH more consistent with this list. It's basically become a Spell-based combo which uses creatures as the vehicle to go off. Let me know what you think!
How has Knight of Autumn in the maindeck been for you? I've been warned against playing such things in the MD, as it is effectively just a hate card for opponents' sideboard measures.
How has Knight of Autumn in the maindeck been for you? I've been warned against playing such things in the MD, as it is effectively just a hate card for opponents' sideboard measures.
Your list definitely has too few hits! I can't imagine Incubation/Incongruity performing well in your list, despite the popularity of your list.
How is Eladamri's Call performing for you? It seems pretty slow to me.
Knight of Autumn saved my ass against UR Phoenix and against Burn in the games I played. Obviously it was very situational, but a 1-of in the MB seems to make sense given it's versatility.
Incubation/Incongruity worked perfectly fine in my deck. It always hit something in the games I played. If I didn't want to dig for a creature, turning an opponent creature into a 3/3 with no abilities is vital against so many different match ups.
I only got to cast eldamaris call once and it worked how I expected it to. The deck felt fast and consistent. Way better than any other version I've played. That's not to say it's perfect, I'm sure there will be many tweaks as the meta adapts, but that list performed really well for me and felt consistent throughout my matches.
Knight of Autumn is now relevant against UR Phoenix in G1 due to Aria. If you run into a lot of Aria, then I suppose Knight of Autumn in the MD is more justifiable.
As I've explained before, the Incubation//Incongruity slots are subpar. Has anyone experimented with them? A fellow on the discord runs Eldritch Evolution in those slots and is having great success.
Call's reprint is huge. Instead of paying 4 to reveal the top 6 and pray, you pay 4 to get the right card and cast it. The card is scary in combo decks overall (Allosaurus Combo also comes into mind).
I think Aether Vial is a really different deck. Maybe just MOST in Modern, with default wincon being Druid Combo.
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
4x Viscera Seer
4x Carrion Feeder
4x Vizier
4x melira
4x kitchen Finks
4x murderous redcap
Each piece of the combo now has an additional piece of redundancy, if that's the way you wanted to go. Could toss in devoted druid for an alternate wincon and go "all in" on it.
BG Rock
Modern:
RW Sun & Moon
RBG Dredge
RWG Burn
Legacy:
W Death & Taxes
+ Carrion feeder to replace viscera seer… that's nice
My main reasons to still play Company are lots of midrange locally and the ability to slam a Finks or two through Eidolon of the Great Revel.
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
4x Devoted Druid
2x Duskwatch Recruiter Flip
2x Giver of Runes
1x Knight of Autumn
4x Knight of the Reliquary
4x Noble Hierarch
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Rhonas the Indomitable
2x Scavenging Ooze
2x Spell Queller
4x Vizier of Remedies
1x Walking Ballista
1x Breeding Pool
3x Forest
1x Gavony Township
3x Ghost Quarter
1x Hallowed Fountain
2x Horizon Canopy
2x Misty Rainforest
1x Plains
4x Temple Garden
4x Windswept Heath
2x Chord of Calling
3x Collected Company
2x Path to Exile
Sorcery (3)
3x Finale of Devastation
Depends on how you want to play, but I've been advised against Disenchant effects in the maindeck. You're effectively devoting maindeck slots to other peoples' sideboard cards (which aren't in your opponents' maindecks). I think cutting Knight of Autumn and Qasali Pridemage for Deputy of Detention will benefit you a lot. Knight of Autumn and Qasali Pridemage can still go in the SB.
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
That's actually very helpful advice, I think I will do that. thanks!
Also, the Devoted Druid combo Discord does have a dedicated channel for Bant. That may be worthwhile for you.
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=22231&d=350555&f=MO
Or be greedy and merge the deck with kirin-geddon? ;-)
https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=22019&d=348698&f=MO
What about this deck? My only problem is to know excatly the perfect number for tutors. Give me your opinions please¡¡¡ I want to reach the most optimized list:
Creatures (30)
4x Birds of Paradise
3x Vizier of Remedies
4x Devoted Druid
1x Kitchen Finks
1x Ranger-Captain of Eos
2x Noble Hierarch
3x Giver of Runes
2x Duskwatch Recruiter
1x Scavenging Ooze
1x Viscera Seer (In my opinion, better for us than Carrion Feeder)
3x Knight of the Reliquary (I really would like the 4th copy, but I think it's impossible)
1x Walking Ballista
1x Shalai, Voice of Plenty
1x Murderous Redcap
1x Knight of Autumn
1x Eternal Witness
Instants (5):
3x Chord of Calling
2x Eladamri's Call
Sorceries (3):
3x Finale of Devastation
Artifacts (1):
1x Vivien's Arkbow
Lands (21):
4x Windswept Heath
4x Verdant Catacombs
2x Temple Garden
2x Overgrown Tomb
2x Horizon Canopy
1x Nurturing Peatland
1x Gavony Township
1x Field of Ruin
2x Forest
1x Swamp
1x Plains
Sideboard (15):
2x Leyline of the Void
1x Plague Engineer
1x Vivien, Champion of the Wilds
1x Collector Ouphe
1x Burrenton Forge-Tender
1x Mirror Entity
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Sin Collector
1x Spellskite
2x Abrupt Decay
2x Path to Exile
1x Bojuka Bog
https://discord.gg/C7WdRPr
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
1 Walking Ballista
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Giver of Runes
2 Noble Hierarch
4 Devoted Druid
1 Duskwatch Recruiter
4 Vizier of Remedies
2 Eternal Witness
1 Knight of Autumn
1 Tireless Tracker
1 Shalai Voice of Plenty
Spells (13)
2 Postmortem Lunge
4 Eladamri's Call
4 Finale of Devastation
4 Incubation // Incongruity
1 Breeding Pool
3 Forest
4 Horizon Canopy
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Plains
2 Razorverge Thicket
2 Temple Garden
2 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
2 Burrenton Forge-Tender
3 Path to Exile
2 Thoughtseize
1 Collector Ouphe
3 Ravenous Trap
1 Plague Engineer
1 Thrun the last troll
2 Damping Sphere
RWG Burn
GW Abzan Company
I found Incubation/Incongruity to be disappointing when I was playing a shell with many possible hits. See the early versions of this deck:
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/deck-creation-modern/799097-druid-evolution
Your list definitely has too few hits! I can't imagine Incubation/Incongruity performing well in your list, despite the popularity of your list.
How is Eladamri's Call performing for you? It seems pretty slow to me.
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
Also I don't see why finale would be better than chord, could someone give some arguments? Thanks a lot
Finale of Devastation can be used as an infinite mana sink that wins ths game this turn if your Walking Ballista and Shalai are both exiled.
Relevant in a Hogaak Bridgevine meta: Finale tutors for self-killing Ballista for 1 mana less than Chord.
Knight of Autumn saved my ass against UR Phoenix and against Burn in the games I played. Obviously it was very situational, but a 1-of in the MB seems to make sense given it's versatility.
Incubation/Incongruity worked perfectly fine in my deck. It always hit something in the games I played. If I didn't want to dig for a creature, turning an opponent creature into a 3/3 with no abilities is vital against so many different match ups.
I only got to cast eldamaris call once and it worked how I expected it to. The deck felt fast and consistent. Way better than any other version I've played. That's not to say it's perfect, I'm sure there will be many tweaks as the meta adapts, but that list performed really well for me and felt consistent throughout my matches.
RWG Burn
GW Abzan Company
As I've explained before, the Incubation//Incongruity slots are subpar. Has anyone experimented with them? A fellow on the discord runs Eldritch Evolution in those slots and is having great success.
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival