You can play ignite memories against Tron, depending on their draw it can also hit eldrazi pretty hard. Ignorant bliss is probably a little too deep against GBx, it's cute though.
Just to introduce myself, I´ve been playing storm for a bit less than a year now, always running Finkel´s stock list. I´ve just started to make some SB modifications, so it can fit better my local meta. I have also been reading this thread for a long time, always trying to learn new things, such more optmal plays and new trends.
So, some days ago I found this deck: http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11485&d=265246&f=MO
The guy maindecks 2 Blood Moons and a Simian Spirit Guide, so he can cast a Blood Moon on one. In a match against most of the meta, it is a free win, especially agains the Eldrazi.
I have not tested it, and ofc it may be very inconsistent. I just wanted to hear your thoughts on it
I also saw this build i nmultiple MTGO results. I think it is a fair build to hate on Eldrazi heavy meta, but as usual with hate builds - you sacrifice consistency for a little increase in power in specific situations.
My rule of thumb is that it should positively affect at least 60% of meta I expect, before I consider a hate build.
If you get a probe off early and see what kind of removal an opponent is packing can make that decision much clearer. But personally I like to go turn 2 ascension. It gets hit by less and turning it on early can speed you up to victory
If you get a probe off early and see what kind of removal an opponent is packing can make that decision much clearer. But personally I like to go turn 2 ascension. It gets hit by less and turning it on early can speed you up to victory
Especially game one, when opponents haven't boarded out all their cheap creature removal. It's often correct to save Electromancer and play it only on the turn you plan on comboing off.
It depends on matchup and on current plan. You always have to consider which route is better for your current draw, if and what removal can your opponent have for Goblin or Ascension and which cardsa is he more likely to have. In general, if you can presume that your opponent has no interaction, Goblin on turn 2 is better, because it enables better t owin on turn 3.
Is Remand a card in this deck anymore? It seems like running a conditional time walk that can also double your storm count could be effective, or does the redundancy of the deck, plus the card advantage granted by ascension and past in flames make that sort of thing unnecessary?
Not really. You're thinking of Ritual Gifts. Blue is often the limiting factor when comboing off and the cards that are the most problematic for us either come down before remand or are so redundant that Remand doesn't really do anything.
Is Remand a card in this deck anymore? It seems like running a conditional time walk that can also double your storm count could be effective, or does the redundancy of the deck, plus the card advantage granted by ascension and past in flames make that sort of thing unnecessary?
nah not really. The first few turns u've to aggressively set up your combo; in cantrips to find the key cards and also prep your engine. I really can't imagine holding 2 mana up for remand instead of casting Electromancer or Ascension.
Hopefully Shadow Over Innistrad will have some cards viable for this deck. It's been too damn long...
For one, I doubt they'll print any ritual cards of the sorts. I don't think they'll print any good 1 mana cantrips neither.
So.... what exactly is good for UR Storm now? Just curious as to what kind of cards that could improve the deck
Could be some kind of madness card to make ravings even better and looting more viable. Even a reprint of obsessive search could turn looting into a 2 mana draw 3 discard 2.
Is Remand a card in this deck anymore? It seems like running a conditional time walk that can also double your storm count could be effective, or does the redundancy of the deck, plus the card advantage granted by ascension and past in flames make that sort of thing unnecessary?
nah not really. The first few turns u've to aggressively set up your combo; in cantrips to find the key cards and also prep your engine. I really can't imagine holding 2 mana up for remand instead of casting Electromancer or Ascension.
What are your thoughts on ignite memories to combat Eldrazi?
Also shattering spree over shatterstorm to have answers for chalice, relic and still fight affinity. I know shatterstorm does the same but spree does it for less mana.
I think ignite may actually be decent against them, and depending on the version could be very good. While chalice can be a pain, and I am considering swapping two shatterstorm for a spree, I also don't know if we always can take a full turn to deal with a chalice on one, and our time would be better spent just trying to kill them.
A storm list took fourth at the most recent scg open. List here. Nothing really innovative or special. Only U/W eldrazi above him, and 5 different eldrazi decks below him. It looks like he either beat or Id'd with the 10th place jund deck to get into top 8, but no idea who he played in the top 8. He also lost round one to the 9th place U/W eldrazi deck.
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(does it have led? then I probably have played it.)
Currently the most successful version of Eldrazi - UW Eldrazi runs no chalice or Ratchet, they have Paths and Dismembers main and in sb they have Rest in Peace, Worship, Stubborn Denial and Disenchant. So maybe that isa bit better now.
Thoughts on the two rending volley in that list? Unless I'm missing something seems like it's to plan for the chord decks running rhetoric. If that's the case it seems kind of narrow. I would think a 2nd echoing truth could get that job done as well and just go off the following turn.
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You can play ignite memories against Tron, depending on their draw it can also hit eldrazi pretty hard. Ignorant bliss is probably a little too deep against GBx, it's cute though.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
I also saw this build i nmultiple MTGO results. I think it is a fair build to hate on Eldrazi heavy meta, but as usual with hate builds - you sacrifice consistency for a little increase in power in specific situations.
My rule of thumb is that it should positively affect at least 60% of meta I expect, before I consider a hate build.
Is the ideal turn two play a Goblin Electromancer or Pyromancer Ascension?
RGTron
UGInfect
URStorm
WUBRAd Nauseam
BRGrishoalbrand
URGScapeshift
WBGAbzan Company
WUBRGAmulet Titan
BRGLiving End
WGBogles
Especially game one, when opponents haven't boarded out all their cheap creature removal. It's often correct to save Electromancer and play it only on the turn you plan on comboing off.
BURGrixis ControlBUR
BURGrixis DelverBUR (RIP)
UWBEsper GiftsUWB
UWUW Jace ControlUW
GUBSultai ControlGUB
UBTezzeret Agent of BolasUB
nah not really. The first few turns u've to aggressively set up your combo; in cantrips to find the key cards and also prep your engine. I really can't imagine holding 2 mana up for remand instead of casting Electromancer or Ascension.
Hopefully Shadow Over Innistrad will have some cards viable for this deck. It's been too damn long...
For one, I doubt they'll print any ritual cards of the sorts. I don't think they'll print any good 1 mana cantrips neither.
So.... what exactly is good for UR Storm now? Just curious as to what kind of cards that could improve the deck
Ah, I thought that might have been the case.
Also shattering spree over shatterstorm to have answers for chalice, relic and still fight affinity. I know shatterstorm does the same but spree does it for less mana.
A storm list took fourth at the most recent scg open. List here. Nothing really innovative or special. Only U/W eldrazi above him, and 5 different eldrazi decks below him. It looks like he either beat or Id'd with the 10th place jund deck to get into top 8, but no idea who he played in the top 8. He also lost round one to the 9th place U/W eldrazi deck.
UBR TES
UBR TNT
GB Dredge
(does it have led? then I probably have played it.)
UBWR Ad nauseam
GW Hatebears