Sure wish Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh just spoiled was colorless. Magic 7 cmc planes walker point. I suppose he could be tested for fun with Cascading Cataracts. But he's a non-bo with AiD and Ugin himself. Oh well.
May as well run green in Tron and run Oath of Nissa instead.
Tempting isn't it? I'll keep hoping for another colorless walker to show one of these days. RG Tron may think about new Bolas though.
Lastly, I see a glimmer of the future. If Bolas is now a 7cmc walker over his old 8 cmc, maybe we will get a new Ugin walker at the magic 7 cmc as well. Time will tell I guess and its probably too far in the future to even think about.
i have suggested oath of nissa and/or cascading cataracts to cheat bolas in play, in the hours of devastation modern thread and there was that one guy who denied my thoughts and told me to git gud in english and that paradox engine was the way to go if we want to play him... i was about to reply him that with my way and a little help from either chromatic star or chromatic sphere we could get bolas online turn 3 thanks to oath. i guess he realised it and thats why he deleted his hatefull comment.
id really like a new karn for 8 unless he died in the story or something... or just a new karn, lol id even take a reprint at this point since i dont own any
with magic 25th anniversary just around the corner we might get a return to dominaria set, so we might get a colorless urza planewalker, how sweet would that be?
im no specialist on the magic lore but if i remember correctly i read somewhere that urza weild all 5 magic colors? if so we might see the first 5 color walker? just some random thoughts but i guess all ET players would like some more playable colorless walker!
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but i guess all ET players would like some more playable colorless walker!
Very true my friend. Colorless needs more support.
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@WarMachinePrime It will not help as TKS isn't 'discard' it's exile. I think Nephalia Drownyard is pretty bad overall and there are certainly better options in GQ, Buried Ruin, or Tec Edge. Even Cavern is probably a better option in the flex spot.
@WarMachinePrime It will not help as TKS isn't 'discard' it's exile. I think Nephalia Drownyard is pretty bad overall and there are certainly better options in GQ, Buried Ruin, or Tec Edge. Even Cavern is probably a better option in the flex spot.
Good point on the exile part. If the meta is heavy with discard, it can be an option. I don't think I said its an auto-include though. Niche/meta-dependent only. See above post ^^^
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@WarMachinePrime It will not help as TKS isn't 'discard' it's exile. I think Nephalia Drownyard is pretty bad overall and there are certainly better options in GQ, Buried Ruin, or Tec Edge. Even Cavern is probably a better option in the flex spot.
Good point on the exile part. If the meta is heavy with discard, it can be an option. I don't think I said its an auto-include though. Niche/meta-dependent only. See above post ^^^
i just realised you guys arent talking about the same land, nephalia drownyard is really bad since we are colorless!
nephalia academy is really good against 8rack and any death shadow variant (8+ discard spell)
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I ran two leagues in the last 12 hours using the attached list, a mostly standard list but with Sanctum and no Ulamog in the main. If I was playing a paper tournament in a local meta where I knew Ulamog was playable, I'd include him, but for MTGO which has a meta similar to a large tournament/GP, I agree with Todd Stevens' evaluation that Endbringer/Karn/All is Dust is a swell top end. I most often found myself tutoring for an Endbringer or Ballista off of Sanctum (Bringer for draws and Ballista for lethal pings), and I think across 10 matches there was maybe one time where Ulamog would have won where the others didn't, if I also had the mana to cast the Ulamog on board.
I went 4-1 in both leagues, and one of the two match losses was heavily influenced by a mana screw game 1 and a flood game 2. I went 2-0 against Grixis Shadow (siding out 4 smashers, now 3-0 using this strat since last weekend when I started. Endbringer and Reshaper and Ballista are all things I'd rather have in my hand than Smasher game 2 or 3), 2-0 against R/G Titanshift (HOW?!?!?), 0-1 against Storm (he won G1 T3 on the play, game 2 I had two surgicals in Hand and on T4 he cast a grapeshot for 7 dmg to face followed by an Empty the Warrens for lethal tokens, didn't even need to cast Gifts or Past in Flames for surgical to come into play), 1-0 against Burn (chalice on 1 and 2 game 1, and on 1 game 3), 0-1 against some sort of BR burn/Bedlam Reveler list with Fatal Pushes and Blood Moon (this was the mana screw/flood match), 1-0 against UW list with aether vial, mini thalia, Resto Angel, but thankfully no Arbiter as far as I saw, 1-0 against Ad Nauseam (got him game 2 with 10 damage on board, he's at 1 life, he plays an Unlife and passes, I play a Ballista and ping for 1 main phase 1 and swing for 10 infect for lethal. Game 3 was the same thing except an All is Dust to remove the Unlife and then swing for lethal, and 1-0 Druid Company that was running Scullers.
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Edit: Forgot to add I had sold my Wurmcoils for Tix to get Chalices and I would rather run one Warping Wail and one Wurmcoil in the side. I'll be using my prize Tix to get a Wurmcoil and play more leagues over the weekend.
Edit 2: Basilisk was definitely and underpeformer, not being equipped to an Endbringer or Ballista a single time through all 10 matches. Although I have had times where it does get equipped and wipes a board and that value is insane. But is that overkill when we have access to All is Dust, Karn, Ugin, and Ulamog for permanent removal, on top of spot removal in Dismember and sideboard cards? Maybe Collar could be brought to the side, swapping in the Batterskull or perhaps the third dismember. Batterskull in the main is something I'm wary of with artifact destruction (spending 5 mana on a B-skull and having it removed for less mana is a big tempo loss for us), I'd probably lean more toward the third dismember. Your guys' thoughts on Basilisk in the main or side? It's worth noting that AFAIK Todd Stevens didn't have one in his 75 at the SCG Open last weekend.
Anyone running Ulamog in the main now?
Thinking he'd be good since infinite life decks are popping up in my meta now but not sure what to pull for him. I'm running a fairly stock list.
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I personally like Basilisk Collar, but I keep it in the side now that I have Chalice in the main. I only swap it in if I'm playing a matchup where Chalice comes out. I'll consider dropping it from my 75 if I think there are better things to bring in when Chalice comes out, like the mirror ... I need to think about it some more.
In my current configuration, in the mirror I would take out Chalices and bring in:
2x Basilisk Collar
1x Batterskull
1x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
Can anyone explain why karn is viable as a x2 of in the mb ?
A few pages ago i posted that the inclusion of eldrazi like conduit of ruin might be easier to cast since we rely on eldrazi temples more then tron.
I do want to hear the argument for 2x karn though. I know he is a boss and will most certainly take over the game when dropped. Im just worried about seeing him in hand and not being able to cast him.
someone pointed out Nephalia Academy for semi-protection against discard
Alright, I tried this out for fun and ended up going 5-0 for the first time in a while. Unfortunately, it had nothing to do with the card
There were a couple situations that it would have been good though - when I had Karn in hand about to assemble tron. But they didn't have the discard spell.
My hunch is that it's worse than a Tec Edge or something else, but I'm gonna keep trying it for now.
I'm surprised to be saying this, but I actually think Nephalia Academy is pretty good. It's won me multiple games against the Shadow variants at this point by protecting Chalice, Karn, and Reality Smasher at different instances. Being Thoughtseize proof feels really damn good, and the opportunity cost (1 flex slot) is pretty low. I think it's worth it based on how much Shadow I'm seeing. Rolling with it.
I see. I've been testing eldrazi tron against my friends and a few locals. The one big thing I really like about mind stone is when my opponent taps out for blood moon, and then next turn and play mind stone and I'm like "Now where were we?"
Do you guys feel there's a better utility land than sea-gate wreckage? It's rarely activated for me. Also, thoughts on basilisk collar vs dismember ratio? I'm on a 2:2 split main personally since collar destroys company, shadow, burn, elves etc. Why side wurmcoil over batterskull? Does anyone else feel ulamog is currently unplayable?
Current List for Vegas
MAINDECK
2 Basilisk Collar
4 Expedition Map
2 Mind Stone
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Endbringer
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Walking Ballista
2 Karn Liberated
1 All Is Dust
2 Dismember
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Ghost Quarter
1 Sea Gate Wreckage
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower
2 Wastes
1 Cavern of Souls
SIDEBOARD
1 Crucible of Worlds
2 Pithing Needle
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Batterskull
2 Grafdigger's Cage
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 All Is Dust
Kelly, I love sea gate, it's worked wonders. Also I don't run the collar because of chalice, but if you dont run chalice its amazing. I side 2 collars. Also, I don't think ulamog is really worth it because you actually dont hit 10 mana as well as you think you would.
That was a sweet AiD on Elf Boy. His quick playing and snapping the Elves down in rapid fire fashion was annoying to watch. Good job.
Haven't watched vs. Burn yet but will soon. Thanks for sharing.
And just a note for all you out there wanting to ditch Ulamog. Other than Karn we have no way to fight through infinite life combos, and those decks are out there. Maybe a +1 Ulamog for your SB isn't a bad idea.
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Watched your Burn matchup. Chalice on 2 shut him down game 2 for sure. Also looked like he was making a misplay because of it, I couldn't hear all the audio. Also it was nice of him to keep revealed the cards seen with TKS, but even though you can write the cards down its still a dumb move on his part. Sloppy play can always be cleaned up, he needs some it appears. Congrats on the win.
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STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
i have suggested oath of nissa and/or cascading cataracts to cheat bolas in play, in the hours of devastation modern thread and there was that one guy who denied my thoughts and told me to git gud in english and that paradox engine was the way to go if we want to play him... i was about to reply him that with my way and a little help from either chromatic star or chromatic sphere we could get bolas online turn 3 thanks to oath. i guess he realised it and thats why he deleted his hatefull comment.
id really like a new karn for 8 unless he died in the story or something... or just a new karn, lol id even take a reprint at this point since i dont own any
with magic 25th anniversary just around the corner we might get a return to dominaria set, so we might get a colorless urza planewalker, how sweet would that be?
im no specialist on the magic lore but if i remember correctly i read somewhere that urza weild all 5 magic colors? if so we might see the first 5 color walker? just some random thoughts but i guess all ET players would like some more playable colorless walker!
top 5 anime of all time (tv, not books because dragon ball would be first)
1. Sword art online 2. Fairy tail 3. Naruto(shipuden) 4. Bleach 5. Claymore
Very true my friend. Colorless needs more support.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Good point on the exile part. If the meta is heavy with discard, it can be an option. I don't think I said its an auto-include though. Niche/meta-dependent only. See above post ^^^
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
i just realised you guys arent talking about the same land, nephalia drownyard is really bad since we are colorless!
nephalia academy is really good against 8rack and any death shadow variant (8+ discard spell)
top 5 anime of all time (tv, not books because dragon ball would be first)
1. Sword art online 2. Fairy tail 3. Naruto(shipuden) 4. Bleach 5. Claymore
I went 4-1 in both leagues, and one of the two match losses was heavily influenced by a mana screw game 1 and a flood game 2. I went 2-0 against Grixis Shadow (siding out 4 smashers, now 3-0 using this strat since last weekend when I started. Endbringer and Reshaper and Ballista are all things I'd rather have in my hand than Smasher game 2 or 3), 2-0 against R/G Titanshift (HOW?!?!?), 0-1 against Storm (he won G1 T3 on the play, game 2 I had two surgicals in Hand and on T4 he cast a grapeshot for 7 dmg to face followed by an Empty the Warrens for lethal tokens, didn't even need to cast Gifts or Past in Flames for surgical to come into play), 1-0 against Burn (chalice on 1 and 2 game 1, and on 1 game 3), 0-1 against some sort of BR burn/Bedlam Reveler list with Fatal Pushes and Blood Moon (this was the mana screw/flood match), 1-0 against UW list with aether vial, mini thalia, Resto Angel, but thankfully no Arbiter as far as I saw, 1-0 against Ad Nauseam (got him game 2 with 10 damage on board, he's at 1 life, he plays an Unlife and passes, I play a Ballista and ping for 1 main phase 1 and swing for 10 infect for lethal. Game 3 was the same thing except an All is Dust to remove the Unlife and then swing for lethal, and 1-0 Druid Company that was running Scullers.
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Edit: Forgot to add I had sold my Wurmcoils for Tix to get Chalices and I would rather run one Warping Wail and one Wurmcoil in the side. I'll be using my prize Tix to get a Wurmcoil and play more leagues over the weekend.
Edit 2: Basilisk was definitely and underpeformer, not being equipped to an Endbringer or Ballista a single time through all 10 matches. Although I have had times where it does get equipped and wipes a board and that value is insane. But is that overkill when we have access to All is Dust, Karn, Ugin, and Ulamog for permanent removal, on top of spot removal in Dismember and sideboard cards? Maybe Collar could be brought to the side, swapping in the Batterskull or perhaps the third dismember. Batterskull in the main is something I'm wary of with artifact destruction (spending 5 mana on a B-skull and having it removed for less mana is a big tempo loss for us), I'd probably lean more toward the third dismember. Your guys' thoughts on Basilisk in the main or side? It's worth noting that AFAIK Todd Stevens didn't have one in his 75 at the SCG Open last weekend.
WG G/W Tron GW
BG G/B Tron GB
GG Mono G Tron GG
RG G/R Tron GR
Thinking he'd be good since infinite life decks are popping up in my meta now but not sure what to pull for him. I'm running a fairly stock list.
BUWAd NauseamBUW-CRAffinityCR-GWBCounters CompanyGWB-BRGDredgeBRG-CWEldrazi and TaxesCW-CEldrazi TronC-BRGJund ShiftBRG-BRGJundBRG-CLantern ControlC-UTronU-RWGNaya BurnRWG-RUStormRU-UTaking TurnsU
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In my current configuration, in the mirror I would take out Chalices and bring in:
2x Basilisk Collar
1x Batterskull
1x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
A few pages ago i posted that the inclusion of eldrazi like conduit of ruin might be easier to cast since we rely on eldrazi temples more then tron.
I do want to hear the argument for 2x karn though. I know he is a boss and will most certainly take over the game when dropped. Im just worried about seeing him in hand and not being able to cast him.
They published the list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/662901#online
always fun.
I'm surprised to be saying this, but I actually think Nephalia Academy is pretty good. It's won me multiple games against the Shadow variants at this point by protecting Chalice, Karn, and Reality Smasher at different instances. Being Thoughtseize proof feels really damn good, and the opportunity cost (1 flex slot) is pretty low. I think it's worth it based on how much Shadow I'm seeing. Rolling with it.
Current List for Vegas
MAINDECK
2 Basilisk Collar
4 Expedition Map
2 Mind Stone
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Endbringer
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Walking Ballista
2 Karn Liberated
1 All Is Dust
2 Dismember
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Ghost Quarter
1 Sea Gate Wreckage
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower
2 Wastes
1 Cavern of Souls
SIDEBOARD
1 Crucible of Worlds
2 Pithing Needle
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Batterskull
2 Grafdigger's Cage
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 All Is Dust
2 Endbringer
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Walking Ballista
PLANESWALKER 2
2 Karn Liberated
INSTANTS and SORC. 4
2 All Is Dust
2 Dismember
OTHER SPELLS 12
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Batterskull
3 Chalice of the Void
4 Expedition Map
2 Mind Stone
1 Ratchet Bomb
1 Buried Ruin
1 Cavern of Souls
4 Eldrazi Temple
3 Ghost Quarter
1 Sea Gate Wreckage
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower
2 Wastes
1 All Is Dust
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Batterskull
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Dismember
2 Ratchet Bomb
3 Relic of Progenitus
2 Spatial Contortion
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Witchbane Orb
Heres some video footage
VS ELVES
first round top 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaVd_xNuK7k&t=75s
VS BURN
second round top 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Le-cA-3dM&t=5s
finals vs grixis death-shadow
video not up yet
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UMerfolkU
Eldrazi Tron
Legacy
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Pauper
RGoblinsR
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UGMerfolk ComboGU
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Haven't watched vs. Burn yet but will soon. Thanks for sharing.
And just a note for all you out there wanting to ditch Ulamog. Other than Karn we have no way to fight through infinite life combos, and those decks are out there. Maybe a +1 Ulamog for your SB isn't a bad idea.
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Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Watched your Burn matchup. Chalice on 2 shut him down game 2 for sure. Also looked like he was making a misplay because of it, I couldn't hear all the audio. Also it was nice of him to keep revealed the cards seen with TKS, but even though you can write the cards down its still a dumb move on his part. Sloppy play can always be cleaned up, he needs some it appears. Congrats on the win.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
This allows your opponent to draw too.
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