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I would say that it justifies as a 1-of. It can be grabbed in the lategame with Stirrings and we have tons of card draw in our deck. I agree that it is not exciting as a Turn 3 play as it does nothing when you play it. But i found that without EoU, Jund and Control have become a lot harder to play against. This might just give us the "we win anyway" situation we were in before.

But if this gets stuffed before we use it, it's a blank, unlike most of our actual threats. Considering that Jund and most control builds pack both main and sideboard hate for artifacts, and that we will usually need two turns to drop and activate this, it doesn't seem to be that good here.

Just spitballing….

How about running GU Tron and running a few Treasure Mage to tutor Planar Bridge up for a big Game Ender with enters the battlefield trigger? Treasure Mage could also be used to tutor Wurmcoil Engine if needed as well. U could open up some counter like Remand or Spell Pierce for protection of the Planar Bridge cast or artifact hate against it as well. Maybe it would be a better fit in Mono U Tron possibly. Just some quick first impressions.

Hello, been out of tge game for a while, i was wondering : do any of you play the new emrakul? How does it been fair?
I like that it could be way cheape than.the old one yet not too broken, missing time warp effect and annihilator etc.

Im still running RG shell and i've swapped out pyroclasm for bolts, i run 1 firespout and 3 bolts main.
Can't post list atm.

I like the idea of a 3rd ugin but sometimes having Karn a turn earlier just helps.

I run 1 ugin atm and 1 sundering titan as a petcard, it has won me a bunch of games.
I do wish i had a second ugin in the deck.
Gonna see what i can do.

The problem with the third Ugin is that the deck needs to keep a balance between cards you can cast with Tron online and without.
Not to mention Affinity, Bant Eldrazi, Eldrazi Taxes and even some control matchups.

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The problem with the third Ugin is that the deck needs to keep a balance between cards you can cast with Tron online and without.
Not to mention Affinity, Bant Eldrazi, Eldrazi Taxes and even some control matchups.

Yeah,that was one of the reasons i cut my second ugin, but i added sundering titan as my petcard for the deck, it can win games just by resolving (same as ugin) and i got another target for my 6 mana dude that searches for a bigger creature.

Have you tried new Emrakul? If so how was it?'how did it go?

Burn is pretty much just a bad MU.

If you're playing RG your best options are Thragtusk, Feed The Clan, Nature's Claim(Thanks Phelpssan, forgot that one!) and another Wurmcoil Engine

In GW you get Timely Reinforcements and Blessed Alliance in addition to the others.

I found Pulse of Murasa to be too slow, feed the clan often does not get you enough for the 2 mana. The best thing you can do with it is time it when Skullcrack and Atarka's Command are unavailable. Thragtusk can get Skullcracked and Wurmcoil is often Nr. 1 target for Path which they often board in and Deflecting Palm, basically negating the lifelink on it.

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If you're playing RG your best options are Thragtusk, Feed The Clan and another Wurmcoil Engine

In GW you get Timely Reinforcements and Blessed Alliance in addition to the others.

Don't forget Nature's Claim.

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Hello, I tried GW version and went 2:2 on last FNM in our LGS.
Won vs Emeria ctrl, UW ctrl and lost to grixis delver and lantern ctrl.

nizhang's DeckMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards
Creatures 2 Wurmcoil Engine 2 World Breaker 2 Spellskite 2 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger Instants and Sorceries 4 Ancient Stirrings 4 Sylvan Scrying 3 Path to Exile Artifacts 4 Chromatic Sphere 4 Chromatic Star 4 Expedition Map 1 Relic of Progenitus 3 Oblivion Stone	Planeswalkers 4 Karn Liberated 2 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon Lands 4 Urza's Mine 4 Urza's Power Plant 4 Urza's Tower 1 Forest 1 Plains 1 Sanctum of Ugin 1 Ghost Quarter 2 Razorverge Thicket 1 Temple Garden	Sideboard. 3 Nature's Claim 1 Relic of Progenitus 2 Thragtusk 2 Timely Reinforcements 1 Ghostly Prison 1 Grafdigger's Cage 2 Warping Wail 2 Blessed Alliance 1 Rest in Peace

What should I change?

Sometimes I am confused about sideboarding, mostly what should go out.

On page 284 is nice sideboard guide for GR tron. Can someone please write something similar for GW version of tron? I would love this

Plains doesn't make sense. Also IMO 3rd Wurmcoil is way better than 2nd World Breaker.

Regarding new Emrakul, it is a beast in many pairings. I have found it to be superior to Ulamog in more than half of the games, with it'so CMC sometimes being bigger than Ulamog's as it's only drawback.

For non-W Tron variants I'd just run Thrags and Claims for burn and hope to dodge. For W, you have access to Blessed Alliance. I wouldn't recommend cards like Pulse and Timely; they're entirely too narrow unless you're in the most burn-heavy of metas, at which point you'd just play them MD.

As for a good GW Tron SB guide, I'd recommend Tom Ross's Premium guide to the deck from November, as he was the main player to popularize it. As it's over a month old, anyone can read it at this point.

Maybe it's just because I have absolutely 0 dredge in my meta, but I've been having a lot more luck with Gr Tron than Gw Tron. As good as Blessed Alliance is, both Path and RIP are worse than other options outside of those specific MUs. Of course, that could all be changing soon.

While I don't like Collective Brutality Tron, I think Fatal Push could potentially make Gb Tron quite the powerhouse.

I was just looking at fatal push for G/B tron. It provides the missing piece for g/b (as disfigure is meh and decay sometimes isn't fast enough). Also is planar bridge a consideration for anyone in tron? Or is the one turn delay too much of a cost. Seems like it does answer the issue that the eye of ugin ban left, as in no way to have a threat in hand always.

I think we're going to have to see what fatal push does to the format before we know whether Planar Bridge is maindeckable. As of right now I'd say not a chance. A do nothing T3 is suicide against many decks and against the decks that it's fine we're already favored.

My head is really brewing an all-in UG version featuring Treasure Mage, 2 Planar Bridges, and 1-ofs Seedborn Muse and Omniscience. This is probably not going to be viable but it sure as hell will be fun.

Planar Bridge doesn't answer a single issue, unfortunately. Eye of Ugin wasn't good simply because it was a repeatable tutor; it was good because it turned lategame land tutors into gas (something that Sanctum can't do consistently).

We wouldn't have played Eye if it was a 0-mana artifact, and Bridge is worse than that.

Hello everybody!

Thanks for the response @Nizhang to my question about the new Emrakul, gonna see if i can acquire one.



What do you guys think? I really like the Lightning Bolts main, i think im cutting 1 World Breaker and im gonna take out that Waste that haven't really helped me except for being a basicland, should've either been a forest or a Sanctum.
Maybe i'll add a spellskite instead, but im kinda worried im not running enough threats.

Sundering Titan is a petcard of mine and it has won me so many games.

I even managed to get myself a third Spellskite.

Im planning to fit 2 Sudden Shocks in the sideboard, don't know what to cut.
We don't have much dredge in our meta but there's jund etc. and it really helps there against Goyfs and the GB 2/2 that grows, tasigur etc.

And i want to play Emrakul, the new one but i feel that the Ulamogs are just so strong!

Tips would be cool!

Why are people playin G/B tron nowadays? 4x Collective brutally? its a meta-call? its better than R/G version? i also like the G/W due to sideboard options

G/B can be a thing with Fatal Push by just utilizing Blooming Marsh and a Llanowar Waste (instead of Path to Exiles with a G/W list). I just can't think of great black cards to support black in the sideboard. Any thoughts?

The only cards, that strike me as playable are Surgical Extractions (against a Surgical Extraction on a Tron piece), Lost Legacy perhaps as a proactive answer against combo decks but the BB seems color intensive.

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G/B can be a thing with Fatal Push by just utilizing Blooming Marsh and a Llanowar Waste (instead of Path to Exiles with a G/W list). I just can't think of great black cards to support black in the sideboard. Any thoughts?

The only cards, that strike me as playable are Surgical Extractions (against a Surgical Extraction on a Tron piece), Lost Legacy perhaps as a proactive answer against combo decks but the BB seems color intensive.

Duress, Thoughtseize, Dismember, Surgical Extraction, Extirpate, Ravenous Trap, Deathmark, Collective Brutality and the brand new Fatal Push are all the good black cards i can see in GB Tron builds. Apart from beeing BB, there is also Infinite Obliteration.

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So you would say that the New Emrakul is definitly worth a slot ? Playing 1 Ulamog / 1 Emrakul 2.0 is better then playing 2:0?

I wouldn't say "definitely". I've been running 1 of each for a while now and Emrakul is much more swingy than Ulamog. I've had some spectacular wins with Newmrakul, but I can't remember ever losing if I cast Ulamog. If I'm going to a large tournament I'm probably switching back to 2 ulamogs, but 1/1 split is fine for FNM.