well, Nimble Obstructionist is an easy addition, if you want to play new tech from HOU. Supreme Will is not too shabby either but the cost is a little high for the deck for what it does. Grixis Control will probably look at that.
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Black has gotten some good stuff too though between Lily, push and brutality and that helps. Supreme Will is prob too expensive for what we want... I'm curious as to where you think Nimble Obsrtuctionist would slot in though?
Been testing the deck for a couple of days now and I have to say it's super fun. Enigma Drake is always at least 8/4 flyer.
I just saw this list myself. I like the looks of it. I do want to tweak the spells combination though. His list doesn't have 4 bolts, but I also understand bolts are not that great right now.
The deck is built to mainly beat Grixis Death's Shadow and Abzan Company. Eldrazi Tron, I think it still struggles. But having a flying 8/4 helps a lot.
I was playing a version similar to that Canadian a few moments ago, did 1-3 drop lol. Mainly I got flooded in my first match vs coco, and same against classic tron. Was playing 20 lands, and Delvers didn't flip for many, many turns.
Is it really worth it playing the Enigma Drake? when he works he can be huge, but I think he's kinda cute, Tasigur/Angler is fixed creature on the other hand. Cant be pushed.
So far, I really like Enigma Drake after playing a dozens of games. Death's Shadow eventually outclasses Tasigur, but with Drake, it's harder for them to swing since we have a 8/4 flying lol. They either have Fatal Push or lose most of the time. I think the card is playable. For Drake to be bad, you need to play against a deck with A LOT of removal, like traditional Jund (Terminate, Push, Pulse, Decay).
What do you mean if I have a list? I've been playing with the list that I posted a few posts ago! It's a list that finished 2nd place at a big event in my city.
Those are all good points on Enigma Drake. But I still feel like it's playable, I mean the guy top 8'ed!
Now, the interesting thing is the playset of Pyromancer. I said this a lot of times, Pyromancer is bomb. I thought about going for a playset a while ago, glad to see that it worked for him. I will definitely try it out now!
That list has no Terminate, I wonder why? Maybe I'll give another try to that list, but it seems to me that against majority of decks, turn 2 Tasigur is a safe ground.
Pyromancer seems interesting. Helps in stalling the game quite a lot and there comes a point he can overwhelm the opponent.
I think electrolyze is weak right now. Expensive, and useless against eldrazi and shadow (unless it's esper shadow we're speaking about)
I believe the best post sb plan against Eldrazi is Blood Moon. Actually is very good against plenty of decks in the format.
Tombstalker might be an interesting option. I truly dislike the Drake, not only he require a complete tap out to be played, but also is weak against decks that sideboard against snapcaster (relic of progenitus, rest in peace, scavenging ooze, leyline of the void)
Blood Moon is actually not that good against Eldrazi. Trust me, I run that deck, and I'm never that upset when it's used against me. Best bet is to side in Ceremonious Rejection.
Blood Moon is actually not that good against Eldrazi. Trust me, I run that deck, and I'm never that upset when it's used against me. Best bet is to side in Ceremonious Rejection.
besides rejection..what would you recomend to fight eldratron ..?
I would say if you really want to hate on eldrazi tron, use the Ceremonious rejection x3, and maybe also put in Fulminator Mages. Those tend to be better than Blood Moon. Keep in mind eldrazi main at least 2 mind stones and have 2 wastes main board. Blood moon normally only slows them down 1 turn while you are now down a card. With Fulminator, you can at least get it back with Kolaghan's Command.
I've also had ppl use surgical to hurt me with grixis decks. They would use thought scour on me, then surgical my tron lands or something important.
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Death's Shadow
4 Dark Confidant
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2 Spell Snare
4 Fatal Push
2 Claim // Fame
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Mana Leak
4 Serum Visions
2 Terminate
4 Thought Scour
4 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Watery Grave
2 Steam Vents
1 Blood Crypt
2 Island
1 Swamp
1 Mountain
1 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Darkslick Shores
1 Bloodstained Mire
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Been testing the deck for a couple of days now and I have to say it's super fun. Enigma Drake is always at least 8/4 flyer.
I just saw this list myself. I like the looks of it. I do want to tweak the spells combination though. His list doesn't have 4 bolts, but I also understand bolts are not that great right now.
Is it really worth it playing the Enigma Drake? when he works he can be huge, but I think he's kinda cute, Tasigur/Angler is fixed creature on the other hand. Cant be pushed.
Those are all good points on Enigma Drake. But I still feel like it's playable, I mean the guy top 8'ed!
Now, the interesting thing is the playset of Pyromancer. I said this a lot of times, Pyromancer is bomb. I thought about going for a playset a while ago, glad to see that it worked for him. I will definitely try it out now!
Pyromancer seems interesting. Helps in stalling the game quite a lot and there comes a point he can overwhelm the opponent.
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Snapcaster Mage
2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
4 Young Pyromancer
Spells
1 Dismember (or Electrolyze depending where I play)
2 Fatal Push
2 Kolaghan's Command
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Mana Leak
1 Murderous Cut
3 Spell Snare
3 Terminate
4 Thought Scour
1 Blood Crypt
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Mountain
4 Polluted Delta
2 Spirebluff Canal
2 Steam Vents
1 Swamp
2 Watery Grave
2 Anger of the Gods
3 Ceremonious Rejection
1 Countersquall
1 Dismember
1 Dispel
1 Fulminator Mage
2 Ghost Quarter (flex)
1 Izzet Staticaster
2 Negate
1 Thoughtseize
So I was wondering what do you guys think about my 2 Dismembers in the 75? Read Corey Burkhart's article the other day and thought that I should try it: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/liliana-and-dismember-are-perfectly-positioned-and-blue-jund-is-the-best-home-for-both/ . The card is awesome against Eldrazi Tron (which I see a lot at my LGS).
EDIT: I would also like what are your strategies against Eldrazi Tron!
I believe the best post sb plan against Eldrazi is Blood Moon. Actually is very good against plenty of decks in the format.
Tombstalker might be an interesting option. I truly dislike the Drake, not only he require a complete tap out to be played, but also is weak against decks that sideboard against snapcaster (relic of progenitus, rest in peace, scavenging ooze, leyline of the void)
What do you think about main board thoughtseize?
I would say if you really want to hate on eldrazi tron, use the Ceremonious rejection x3, and maybe also put in Fulminator Mages. Those tend to be better than Blood Moon. Keep in mind eldrazi main at least 2 mind stones and have 2 wastes main board. Blood moon normally only slows them down 1 turn while you are now down a card. With Fulminator, you can at least get it back with Kolaghan's Command.
I've also had ppl use surgical to hurt me with grixis decks. They would use thought scour on me, then surgical my tron lands or something important.