Spell Queller is certainly a different look, and I like being able to deal with Supreme Verdict! I just think it might be a slippery slope...once you put 3 spirits in, then you'll add Kira, Great Glass-Spinner...then, all of the sudden, Bant Spirits! Be careful hahaha!!
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Like a lot of players recently, I've been playing against a lot of Humans and Spirits. I've found that Merrow Reejerey is the MVP in my opinion with that match-up. Especially with two out, my one drops net one mana and/or are able to tap two critters down at a time so I don't have to worry about getting a Spreading Seas.
So, all I'm saying is don't underestimate and forget about Reejerey because he's a three drop. In pairs, they are an epic source of power and advantage....even alone, they can get a lot done! Old dogs like new tricks(ters) and all, but they love the old ones just the same!!
Glad to see you're open to Spell Queller. lol. I actually plan on playing spirits when I'm not playing fish. I've heard a lot of people comparing the two tribes and I'm really curious as to the differences and similarities myself, so I'm gonna start working on getting the pieces for that once I'm finished with building my Fishy Bois. Maybe we can learn something new, or even take a page from their playbook with some firsthand experience. Don't worry though, Fish is still my go-to tribe. lol. I'm not going full Danny Phantom just yet (though I am thinking about giving Selfless Spirit a try as a Heroic Intervention on a stick. I definitely think it's more of a long shot, but it won't hurt to give it the ol' college try.).
Also, preach on the Reej! After upping the amount in some sense by using Phantasmal Image I'm thinking about adding the 3rd copy of the actual card. When I was going up against the burn deck that I mentioned, I had a T1 Vial followed by T2 Silvergill and T3 Reejerey. My opponent went to Bolt the Reejerey and I vialed in Image copying him in response. Obviously, this is an optimal scenario, but the idea of being able to copy Reejerey for 2 mana seems really powerful to me.
All great points on Merrow Reejerey folks! Phantasmal Image is probably a good replacement if you already of 4 of each of the usual suspects in the deck.
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I mean, let's say we don't have a vial hand. T1 we commit nothing to the board. T2 silvergill, lord or whatever. T3 we play Reej and it get's killed. That means untapping on T4 we have exactly 1 creature on the board; possibly only a 2/1. Juxtaposed to decks like Humans, Elves, Affinity, Hollow One, Spirits, etc that is just waaaaay to slow. And against big mana, combo & control we're generally better off at least playing another 2 drop and holding up 1 mana for Spell Pierce.
Maybe with Silvergill they let it pass, but how many opponents are going to leave a Lord sitting out turn 2 if they have disruption available? (Not to mention the decoy power of the thought that we could have a curve into Master.) Also, why are you playing Reej on T3 in the first place unless you're forced to, especially if you throw down a Silvergill T2? In what percentage of hands does that happen?
That's me at the 8:40 mark vs. Saffron Olive. On the other end of the spectrum got rolled by Nikachu in the mirror. Had super slow hands with Lord of Atlantis stuck in hand and he had everything rolling. Ah well.
If you want to avoid unfortunate mirror match happenings on MTGO, I suggest joining the FishMTG Discord channel (link here). We generally let people know when we're going to jam a league in order to avoid cannibalizing other Merfolk players' records.
I brought back and old strategy earlier today on Twitch with some 8-Seas Merfolk in Modern! I didn't end up with a great result (2-3), but the deck definitely showed potential. Off-screen, I crushed a B/W Eldrazi deck, on-screen, I beat Burn and Scapeshift....lost to W/U Control, Goblins, and Humans in the league.
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I brought back and old strategy earlier today on Twitch with some 8-Seas Merfolk in Modern! I didn't end up with a great result (2-3), but the deck definitely showed potential. Off-screen, I crushed a B/W Eldrazi deck, on-screen, I beat Burn and Scapeshift....lost to W/U Control, Goblins, and Humans in the league.
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I was running 7-seas for a minute, before trying out Relic and a few other 1-drops sans Cursecatcher. I was actually relatively happy with the build, especially since it added to my MoW devotion. The main reason I moved away is because I'm prepping for a Team Modern event and I'm expecting fewer decks soft to mana-screw. I definitely think the build has legs in the current meta though. It's pretty clear we are not as explosive as some of the other decks out there, so having another way to slow the game down by a turn or two while allowing us to develop some critical mass is pretty good.
Totally agree. Well said. I understand why you moved away then. Are you going to keep it Mono-Blue or are you thinking of Green/Blue? Rothgar13 seems to tout that direction pretty heavily.
Sticking with mono-blue. I tried tropical a while ago and wasn't super impressed. I'm not opposed to trying it out again, but would need to finagle some of the lands since my teammates are on Bant Company & Lantern. Looking over Rothgars list I just can't picture myself playing without MoW.
That said, it's all on the table for me right now as I test the crap outa everything. Right now I feel like I can tweak the deck to deal with aggressive threats or to deal with combo/control, but I'm struggling to walk the middle and seem to wind up just losing to both when I try to do it all. I'm still like 50/50 or 60/40 but definitely not putting up the results I'm looking for. I've got about a month left to prep and if I don't figure this out soon I might just pickup my Grixis Control deck.
I was somewhat underwhelmed with Tropical on my first go-around as well, but Trickster has been very helpful with pushing through damage, and Shapers' Sanctuary really shores up the midrange and control matchups. To be honest, it will take a massive influx of specifically Blood Moon decks for me to go back to mono-U. I'm pretty firmly convinced Tropical Fish is the more efficient deck right now.
Rothgar13 inspired me to do a stream last night and bring back the UG list. I probably should have gotten in touch to get something closer to his list as it's got a lot more reps than mine did for sure. It did well anyway, 3-2. I did cut Merrow Reejerey even though it's one of my favorite cards in the deck and probably bonkers in the UG build. I just figured it would be easy to cut a lord to add a lord in the Merfolk Mistbinder.
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I was somewhat underwhelmed with Tropical on my first go-around as well, but Trickster has been very helpful with pushing through damage, and Shapers' Sanctuary really shores up the midrange and control matchups. To be honest, it will take a massive influx of specifically Blood Moon decks for me to go back to mono-U. I'm pretty firmly convinced Tropical Fish is the more efficient deck right now.
Ive used Shapers Sanctuary in other decks (like Allies) and been very impressed with it.
I played against watered down jund and won with 8 seas version. How is the 8 seas version against bigger, better meta decks? I’ve never faced an actual tier 1 deck and I do pretty good with 8 seas
Basically, the matches where Spreading Seas is incredibly good...Sea's Claim makes it even better. Anything like Eldrazi, Abzan, Burn, Jund...it's very good and can be backbreaking in pairs or groups of three.
2 Conclaves sounds like a pretty reasonable amount for a non-Chalice mono-U list. That's enough to dramatically reduce your risk of flooding, but not so many that the tapland will mess you up.
Basically, the matches where Spreading Seas is incredibly good...Sea's Claim makes it even better. Anything like Eldrazi, Abzan, Burn, Jund...it's very good and can be backbreaking in pairs or groups of three.
Thx. I’ll watch the video when I get off. Since I’m not going to run the aether vial list anytime soon, I’m going to stick to 8 seas since my meta relies heavily on dual lands.
I made an opponent get pissed bc I trickstered his dragon.
For those who are running the budget version of the deck like me, try Jace cunning castaway. It’s a source of draw and is really nice when you can ultimate abs get the clones and do it more
Thx. I’ll watch the video when I get off. Since I’m not going to run the aether vial list anytime soon, I’m going to stick to 8 seas since my meta relies heavily on dual lands.
I made an opponent get pissed bc I trickstered his dragon.
For those who are running the budget version of the deck like me, try Jace cunning castaway. It’s a source of draw and is really nice when you can ultimate abs get the clones and do it more
Just a quick question regarding the ruling for Jace, Cunning Castaway for anyone within earshot: Do the tokens created by his ult provide additional devotion for Master of Waves (do they copy his cmc too)? If so, I may actually buy some when I have the money to spare and give it a shot. That could be a useful interaction if it works.
Also, has anybody tried Lead the Stampede in a UG build? I have a playset lying around and wondering if they have been tested yet. Also, $16 per copy of Collected Company a bit hard to do right now, especially when I'm getting the Mutavaults.
Assuming it's on the board, Jace is a permanent with blue casting cost, so yes, it counts toward your devotion to blue, unless someone kills it in response to your casting of Master. His tokens, though, not having a casting cost, don't.
SB (unused) 4 chalice of the void - affinity (on 0, going first), storm (on 1), boggles/infect (on 1). 4 gut shot - elves, affinity. 4 ravenous trap - storm, hallowed one. 3 deprive - other blue decks.
won vs Mardu Pyromancer (1-0) and Soul Sisters (2-0.)
Also, has anybody tried Lead the Stampede in a UG build? I have a playset lying around and wondering if they have been tested yet. Also, $16 per copy of Collected Company a bit hard to do right now, especially when I'm getting the Mutavaults.
I wouldn't recommend either, to be honest. If you're looking to grind, Shapers' Sanctuary is what has done best for me, and it's relatively cheap to pick up.
Glad to see you're open to Spell Queller. lol. I actually plan on playing spirits when I'm not playing fish. I've heard a lot of people comparing the two tribes and I'm really curious as to the differences and similarities myself, so I'm gonna start working on getting the pieces for that once I'm finished with building my Fishy Bois. Maybe we can learn something new, or even take a page from their playbook with some firsthand experience. Don't worry though, Fish is still my go-to tribe. lol. I'm not going full Danny Phantom just yet (though I am thinking about giving Selfless Spirit a try as a Heroic Intervention on a stick. I definitely think it's more of a long shot, but it won't hurt to give it the ol' college try.).
Also, preach on the Reej! After upping the amount in some sense by using Phantasmal Image I'm thinking about adding the 3rd copy of the actual card. When I was going up against the burn deck that I mentioned, I had a T1 Vial followed by T2 Silvergill and T3 Reejerey. My opponent went to Bolt the Reejerey and I vialed in Image copying him in response. Obviously, this is an optimal scenario, but the idea of being able to copy Reejerey for 2 mana seems really powerful to me.
Arena Username: ThunderGunZ1976
Modern:
UMerfolkU
UWGSpiritsUWG
RGoblinsR
Standard:
...whatever I can afford on Arena
Here is the YouTube from my LIVE Twitch stream earlier tonight...played 2 straight 5-match leagues on MTGO and it took just over 4 hours! Check it out, like it, comment on it, subscribe to me, share it if you'd be so kind...it helps immensely!
https://youtu.be/s7lqrjNc0jA
Have a great week now everyone and as always, don't forget to #FeartheFolk
Twitch Channel - https://www.twitch.tv/moontimedweller
MODERN - Mono-Blue Merfolk & 7-Forest Goblin Charbelcher
LEGACY - Ruby Storm & Burn
PAUPER - Zombies, Bogles, & Burn
Maybe with Silvergill they let it pass, but how many opponents are going to leave a Lord sitting out turn 2 if they have disruption available? (Not to mention the decoy power of the thought that we could have a curve into Master.) Also, why are you playing Reej on T3 in the first place unless you're forced to, especially if you throw down a Silvergill T2? In what percentage of hands does that happen?
Standard: Fileted By Fish (UG aggro Merfolk), A Fine Kettle of Fish (UG swarm Merfolk), The Deep Blue Sea-People II (Umidrange Merfolk/Wizards),
Greek Fire (UR Wizards), Riptide (U Tempo)
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/much-abrew-beatdown-elves-modern
Legacy: Merfolk U; Shadow UB; Eldrazi Stompy C
Pauper: Delver U
Vintage: Merfolk U
Primers:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql9rGTxaL1s&feature=youtu.be
Twitch Channel - https://www.twitch.tv/moontimedweller
MODERN - Mono-Blue Merfolk & 7-Forest Goblin Charbelcher
LEGACY - Ruby Storm & Burn
PAUPER - Zombies, Bogles, & Burn
Twitch Channel - https://www.twitch.tv/moontimedweller
MODERN - Mono-Blue Merfolk & 7-Forest Goblin Charbelcher
LEGACY - Ruby Storm & Burn
PAUPER - Zombies, Bogles, & Burn
That said, it's all on the table for me right now as I test the crap outa everything. Right now I feel like I can tweak the deck to deal with aggressive threats or to deal with combo/control, but I'm struggling to walk the middle and seem to wind up just losing to both when I try to do it all. I'm still like 50/50 or 60/40 but definitely not putting up the results I'm looking for. I've got about a month left to prep and if I don't figure this out soon I might just pickup my Grixis Control deck.
Legacy: Merfolk U; Shadow UB; Eldrazi Stompy C
Pauper: Delver U
Vintage: Merfolk U
Primers:
Anyway, here is the video. Please like, share, comment, and/or subscribe to me on YouTube or Twitch for more content like this. Thank you for your time and support!
https://youtu.be/Xf7fpf2bLJU
Twitch Channel - https://www.twitch.tv/moontimedweller
MODERN - Mono-Blue Merfolk & 7-Forest Goblin Charbelcher
LEGACY - Ruby Storm & Burn
PAUPER - Zombies, Bogles, & Burn
I just did a video with 8-Seas Merfolk a couple of days ago. Check it out if you'd like! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql9rGTxaL1s
Twitch Channel - https://www.twitch.tv/moontimedweller
MODERN - Mono-Blue Merfolk & 7-Forest Goblin Charbelcher
LEGACY - Ruby Storm & Burn
PAUPER - Zombies, Bogles, & Burn
Legacy: Merfolk U; Shadow UB; Eldrazi Stompy C
Pauper: Delver U
Vintage: Merfolk U
Primers:
Thx. I’ll watch the video when I get off. Since I’m not going to run the aether vial list anytime soon, I’m going to stick to 8 seas since my meta relies heavily on dual lands.
I made an opponent get pissed bc I trickstered his dragon.
For those who are running the budget version of the deck like me, try Jace cunning castaway. It’s a source of draw and is really nice when you can ultimate abs get the clones and do it more
Just a quick question regarding the ruling for Jace, Cunning Castaway for anyone within earshot: Do the tokens created by his ult provide additional devotion for Master of Waves (do they copy his cmc too)? If so, I may actually buy some when I have the money to spare and give it a shot. That could be a useful interaction if it works.
Also, has anybody tried Lead the Stampede in a UG build? I have a playset lying around and wondering if they have been tested yet. Also, $16 per copy of Collected Company a bit hard to do right now, especially when I'm getting the Mutavaults.
Arena Username: ThunderGunZ1976
Modern:
UMerfolkU
UWGSpiritsUWG
RGoblinsR
Standard:
...whatever I can afford on Arena
Standard: Fileted By Fish (UG aggro Merfolk), A Fine Kettle of Fish (UG swarm Merfolk), The Deep Blue Sea-People II (Umidrange Merfolk/Wizards),
Greek Fire (UR Wizards), Riptide (U Tempo)
12 island
4 faerie conclave
4 mutavault
(24) creatures:
4 harbinger of the tides
4 lord of atlantis
4 master of the pearl trident
4 merfolk trickster
4 phantasmal image
4 silvergil adept
4 aether vial
(8) enchantments:
4 sea's claim
4 spreading seas
(4) instants:
4 echoing truth
4 chalice of the void - affinity (on 0, going first), storm (on 1), boggles/infect (on 1).
4 gut shot - elves, affinity.
4 ravenous trap - storm, hallowed one.
3 deprive - other blue decks.
won vs Mardu Pyromancer (1-0) and Soul Sisters (2-0.)
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkfx2kA8gok&feature=emb_logo
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RYiZJFCK0
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18HlKybrm8&feature=emb_logo
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAEzfAgpbI
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNr_4ubfMg
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcwpxraL-g
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MyVNLVYNw
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M5ffoArnY
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yQEBOPi_w&feature=emb_logo
extended - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLpUB9zpyr4&feature=emb_logo
I wouldn't recommend either, to be honest. If you're looking to grind, Shapers' Sanctuary is what has done best for me, and it's relatively cheap to pick up.
Legacy: Merfolk U; Shadow UB; Eldrazi Stompy C
Pauper: Delver U
Vintage: Merfolk U
Primers: