In case you'ins care 4-0 tonite. Jeez got so damn lucky on a Jeskai nahiri deck.i beat a non bush wacker small zoo, Tron and burn... I was playing small zoo tonite. Tomorrow in my heavy blue lgs, I will play zo walkers
I can see arguments for bringing in Lavaman but I'm not sure on that. Qasali is decent as a 2/2 Exalted, but we need Thalia's more relevant effects or the power of Choke/Fallout.
I can see arguments for bringing in Lavaman but I'm not sure on that. Qasali is decent as a 2/2 Exalted, but we need Thalia's more relevant effects or the power of Choke/Fallout.
I don't think siding in Choke vs Grixis Delver is right. UR Delver pretty much gets wrecked by it, but Grixis not that much, since they have Darkslick Shores/Blood Crypt/Creeping Tar Pit and they can play well with few lands. I'd rather side in the Fulminators, what makes me have to take 1 more card out.
If I go with -3 Qasali -1 Domri for UR, I could go -3 Qasali, -1 Domri and -1 Dromoka's against Grixis?
Also, is it worth to side in Finks against Living End? He comes back after the living end and could be a blocker to gain some time and life back before I start rebuilding. Thalias and Eidolon of Rethoric are auto-ins.
I don't think siding in Choke vs Grixis Delver is right. UR Delver pretty much gets wrecked by it, but Grixis not that much, since they have Darkslick Shores/Blood Crypt/Creeping Tar Pit and they can play well with few lands. I'd rather side in the Fulminators, what makes me have to take 1 more card out.
If I go with -3 Qasali -1 Domri for UR, I could go -3 Qasali, -1 Domri and -1 Dromoka's against Grixis?
I haven't played against Grixis delver that much I guess - the times I did, it would've done work (but I don't run Choke because I don't have any).
I don't see any problems with that plan.
Also, is it worth to side in Finks against Living End? He comes back after the living end and could be a blocker to gain some time and life back before I start rebuilding. Thalias and Eidolon of Rethoric are auto-ins.
He doesn't come back after Living End.
Persist requires going to the graveyard from the battlefied, and LE exiles him first.
Also, is it worth to side in Finks against Living End? He comes back after the living end and could be a blocker to gain some time and life back before I start rebuilding. Thalias and Eidolon of Rethoric are auto-ins.
He doesn't come back after Living End.
Persist requires going to the graveyard from the battlefied, and LE exiles him first.
Nope, Living End exiles the creatures on the graveyards and makes each player sacrifice his/her creatures on the battlefield. So Finks does come back.
Also, is it worth to side in Finks against Living End? He comes back after the living end and could be a blocker to gain some time and life back before I start rebuilding. Thalias and Eidolon of Rethoric are auto-ins.
He doesn't come back after Living End.
Persist requires going to the graveyard from the battlefied, and LE exiles him first.
Nope, Living End exiles the creatures on the graveyards and makes each player sacrifice his/her creatures on the battlefield. So Finks does come back.
You're right. I went off of memory and memory was remembering the Grafdigger's Cage non-interaction with LE.
My bad.
It would be so much easy for us if Cage could stop Living End somehow =[
At least around here it's a rare matchup, but I think it's a really bad one for us.
3-1 last night with this. Little out there. 61 cards, push come to shove id drop the finks in main and add 4th to side dropping lightning helix. Brian kibler would be happy. Also still iffy on rugged prairie, maybe a horizon canopy.
Went 3-3 and drop at WMCQ Singapore with 4C zoo. Deck was pretty solid. Had a bunch of huge misplays due to not being able to get any sleep the night before.
R1 beat Nacatl burn 2-1
- On the draw, punted game 1 by not noticing the path in my hand for the lethal attack, enabling him to block and burn me out on his turn for lethal.
- G2 managed to stick my 1 main deck rhox war monk and took over from there
- G3 on the draw again he had the paths for my firewalkers but I managed to stick a scavenging ooze and grind him out.
R2 beat bushwhacker zoo 2-1
- On the play, mull to 6 for having my only 2 my non-green blue lands in my starting hand. He kept a 1-lander and did not draw a 2nd land until turn 4 which gave me enough time to set up my wall of big butts for the win.
- G2, I punted by making a stupidly bad block with my rhox war monk on his flinthoof boar instead of goblin guide or BTE, he blew me out with atarka's command.
- G3, managed a turn 3 firewalker while removing all his green creatures and managed to CoCo into a KOTR and a 2nd firewalker for the win while he was only drawing red spells.
R3 lose to Titanshift 1-2
- G1, on the draw, did not have the removal for the prime time.
- G2, had the removal for the prime time.
- G3, on the draw again, mull to 6 and kept a 1 lander with a decent curve and disruption, scry a creature to the bottom and proceeded to not draw another land in the next 2 draw steps.
R4 lose to boros burn 0-2 ( This guy played a build without wild nacatl and more main deck burn spells, making the match a lot harder than the Nacatl version of burn, he only had green for destructive revelry )
- Burn does burn things.
- Did not draw sideboard cards, and burn does burn things.
R5 beat griselbrand 2-0
- G1 on the draw. Stuck and early scavenging ooze to hate out his graveyard, he managed to goryo's out a worldspine wurm but at that point I had enough creatures on board and removal in hand to swing past the wurm tokens.
- G2, he goes for t1 faithless looting while I go for t1, forest, nacatl, pass. His turn 2 is desperate ritual blood moon, locking himself out of blue and black mana. I follow up with a goyf that he is unable to remove and goyf just goes all the way as he bricks on his draws.
R6 lose to merfolk 0-2
- G1, forced to fetch and island to cast my Geist of Saint Traft as I did not have a hierarch on the field. He had the triple pearl trident draw and I did not draw any removal.
- G2, I punted this game hard by not using bant charm to take out his reejery and he just built an unstoppable board off of that.
At this point, I decided to just go home and sleep.
Did not match up against any Jund, Grixis, Abzan or Jeskai which were what I was preparing for primarily.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
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You mighta replied while I was fixing, I forgot walkers
Hes talking about a recent trend: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/440562#online
Could that be a mistake on the list?
It makes no sense to play Goblin instead of Reckless.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
4 Windswept Heath
3 Arid Mesa
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Stomping Ground
2 Temple Garden
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Kessig Wolf Run
2 Forest
1 Plains
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Qasali Pridemage
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Loxodon Smiter
Stuff (13)
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile
3 Domri Rade
2 Dromoka's Command
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3 Kitchen Finks
2 Fulminator Mage
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Eidolon of Rethoric
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Volcanic Fallout
2 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Choke
2-0 vs Abzan Company
2-1 vs Small Zoo
0-2 vs Living End
2-0 vs Bant Eldrazi
I'll probably swap Wildwood for another Stomping Ground. Got my Fulminators dead on hand because I didn't have the second red mana.
Also, with this list, how would you guys side in/out vs UR Delver and Grixis Delver?
I'm thinking something like:
UR Delver
+2 Thalia
+1 Fallout (if I see Pyromancer)
+1 Choke
-3 Pridemage
-1 Path
(Or should I go -4 Path instead?)
Grixis Delver:
+2 Thalia
+1 Fallout (if I see Pyromancer)
+2 Fulminator
-3 Pridemage
-2 Dromoka´s Command(?)
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
IN: Choke, Fallout, 2 Thalia
I can see arguments for bringing in Lavaman but I'm not sure on that. Qasali is decent as a 2/2 Exalted, but we need Thalia's more relevant effects or the power of Choke/Fallout.
I'd do that to
If I go with -3 Qasali -1 Domri for UR, I could go -3 Qasali, -1 Domri and -1 Dromoka's against Grixis?
Also, is it worth to side in Finks against Living End? He comes back after the living end and could be a blocker to gain some time and life back before I start rebuilding. Thalias and Eidolon of Rethoric are auto-ins.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
I haven't played against Grixis delver that much I guess - the times I did, it would've done work (but I don't run Choke because I don't have any).
I don't see any problems with that plan.
He doesn't come back after Living End.
Persist requires going to the graveyard from the battlefied, and LE exiles him first.
Nope, Living End exiles the creatures on the graveyards and makes each player sacrifice his/her creatures on the battlefield. So Finks does come back.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
You're right. I went off of memory and memory was remembering the Grafdigger's Cage non-interaction with LE.
My bad.
At least around here it's a rare matchup, but I think it's a really bad one for us.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
4 Windswept Heath
3 Arid Mesa
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Rugged prairie
1 Kessig Wolf Run
2 Forest
1 Plains
1 mountain
1 raging ravine
1 ghost quarter
Creatures
1 birds of paradise
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Voice of resurgence
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Knight of the Reliquary
2 Loxodon Smiter
1 stormbreath Dragon
1 Thundermaw hellkite
1 kitchen finks
2 domri rade
4 lightning bolt
4 path to exile
3 kitchen finks
2 Fulminator Mage
1 thrun, the last troll
2 blood moon
2 stony silence
1 shatterstorm
1 Lightning helix
1 unflinching courage
2 pyroclasm
3-1 last night with this. Little out there. 61 cards, push come to shove id drop the finks in main and add 4th to side dropping lightning helix. Brian kibler would be happy. Also still iffy on rugged prairie, maybe a horizon canopy.
R1 beat Nacatl burn 2-1
- On the draw, punted game 1 by not noticing the path in my hand for the lethal attack, enabling him to block and burn me out on his turn for lethal.
- G2 managed to stick my 1 main deck rhox war monk and took over from there
- G3 on the draw again he had the paths for my firewalkers but I managed to stick a scavenging ooze and grind him out.
R2 beat bushwhacker zoo 2-1
- On the play, mull to 6 for having my only 2 my non-green blue lands in my starting hand. He kept a 1-lander and did not draw a 2nd land until turn 4 which gave me enough time to set up my wall of big butts for the win.
- G2, I punted by making a stupidly bad block with my rhox war monk on his flinthoof boar instead of goblin guide or BTE, he blew me out with atarka's command.
- G3, managed a turn 3 firewalker while removing all his green creatures and managed to CoCo into a KOTR and a 2nd firewalker for the win while he was only drawing red spells.
R3 lose to Titanshift 1-2
- G1, on the draw, did not have the removal for the prime time.
- G2, had the removal for the prime time.
- G3, on the draw again, mull to 6 and kept a 1 lander with a decent curve and disruption, scry a creature to the bottom and proceeded to not draw another land in the next 2 draw steps.
R4 lose to boros burn 0-2 ( This guy played a build without wild nacatl and more main deck burn spells, making the match a lot harder than the Nacatl version of burn, he only had green for destructive revelry )
- Burn does burn things.
- Did not draw sideboard cards, and burn does burn things.
R5 beat griselbrand 2-0
- G1 on the draw. Stuck and early scavenging ooze to hate out his graveyard, he managed to goryo's out a worldspine wurm but at that point I had enough creatures on board and removal in hand to swing past the wurm tokens.
- G2, he goes for t1 faithless looting while I go for t1, forest, nacatl, pass. His turn 2 is desperate ritual blood moon, locking himself out of blue and black mana. I follow up with a goyf that he is unable to remove and goyf just goes all the way as he bricks on his draws.
R6 lose to merfolk 0-2
- G1, forced to fetch and island to cast my Geist of Saint Traft as I did not have a hierarch on the field. He had the triple pearl trident draw and I did not draw any removal.
- G2, I punted this game hard by not using bant charm to take out his reejery and he just built an unstoppable board off of that.
At this point, I decided to just go home and sleep.
Did not match up against any Jund, Grixis, Abzan or Jeskai which were what I was preparing for primarily.
4 windswept heath
4 wooded foothills
3 arid mesa
2 stomping ground
1 sacred foundry
1 temple garden
1 breeding pool
1 hallowed fountain
1 steam vents
1 forest
1 plains
1 kessig wolf-run
1 stirring wild wood
creatures
4 noble hierarch
4 wild nacatl
2 scavenging ooze
3 voice of resurgence
4 tarmogoyf
3 Geist of saint Traft
1 rhox war monk
4 knight of the reliquary
4 path to exile
4 lightning bolt
1 forked bolt
1 bant charm
2 collected company
1 elspeth, knight-errant
1 chandra, pyromaster
1 sigarda, host of herons
1 fracturing gust
1 dromoka's command
2 thalia, guardian of thraben
2 kor firewalker
1 ancient grudge
1 stony silence
1 negate
2 grafdigger's cage
1 magma spray
1 eidolon of rhetoric
1 aven mindcensor