Right I just lost to them... AND ONLY BECAYUE of 3 seas.
For most matchups, I find myself siding out Qasali Pridemage as the weakest creature. But between Spreading Seas in Merfolk, Batterskull post-board in midrange and control decks, Spellskite's all around power, and Grafdigger's Cage popping up in Singapore sideboards, I may need to reevaluate Qasali Pridemage's post-board worth.
Right I just lost to them... AND ONLY BECAYUE of 3 seas.
For most matchups, I find myself siding out Qasali Pridemage as the weakest creature. But between Spreading Seas in Merfolk, Batterskull post-board in midrange and control decks, Spellskite's all around power, and Grafdigger's Cage popping up in Singapore sideboards, I may need to reevaluate Qasali Pridemage's post-board worth.
Successful Big Zoo decks do not seems to be sideboarding for Twin anymore. But Twin is consistent, powerful, and showing up everywhere. Is our matchup honestly so good that we devote one or less sideboard slots to it?
Successful Big Zoo decks do not seems to be sideboarding for Twin anymore. But Twin is consistent, powerful, and showing up everywhere. Is our matchup honestly so good that we devote one or less sideboard slots to it?
In my list I still bring in thalia and command, so I am siding at least 3 cards. But the truth is its a good matchup, because of pridemage for the combo, path for the combo, constant pressure, and if they default to tempo, we will most likely win.
In my list I still bring in thalia and command, so I am siding at least 3 cards. But the truth is its a good matchup, because of pridemage for the combo, path for the combo, constant pressure, and if they default to tempo, we will most likely win.
Oh snap! I had totally forgotten that Twin plays few enough creatures for siding in Thalia. Do you bring in Thalia against Temur Twin? They tend to play more creatures, reducing the value of Thalia.
I havent faced them in a long while... So I can only say in theory. If its something like 4 exarch, 2 pester, 4 tarmo, 2 ooze, then most likely still. If the creature count it something like... 12 or less, then yes. 14 or more is pushing it.
Also... Been a while since I looked at mtggoldfish! Congrats everyone, Zoo is 3% of the meta game! thats huge! Thats biggest since nacatl was unbanned! And its a continuous stable stat too.
What's tracker for? Merfolk? Is he really better than Domri? Domri is nice because you can bring it in for CoCo when need be and not lose out a ton on the card advantage that it provides.
Brian Kiblar has used it before for the same reason I am. When its ackward to play grim, but you're playing bigger dudes, tracker works better. Bigger dudes=more mana/ mana dorks= Fight can matter more.
Its cocoable as well, basically I was subbing out grim for him.
It is nice to hit Magus of the Moon of CoCo, but is it worth the vulnerability? Midrange decks that lose to Blood Moon are overflowing with creature removal.
Please report back on Tracker. It seems good, but I'm concerned that it will be too slow.
First of all hello, I'm a short-time lurker first time poster.
I'm wondering why you'd want tracker over additional copies of Dromokas command. I feel like tracker has less utility in the SB slot (command helps zoos bad match ups a ton) and even though tracker is a repeatable ability it seems to have a lower potential tempo swing because it needs to lose summoning sickness. Command also becomes a better top deck later for goyf to overcome Tasigur/goyfs/anglers/Rhino as well as buffing a potential dork vs dork early like T2.
While it can be hit off company I don't think that is enough of a contributing factor to make it better than command either.
I hope you don't take any of this as rude. I appreciate your hard work in this thread and know everything I know about zoo from your videos so I am sure I am missing something. I just wanted to explain my opinion on it so you could explain your choice. I'm looking to build my first Zoo deck soon.
Didn't get a chance to write a full report last night. Sorry guys, packing for a long holiday weekend away. My list was pretty close to yours Lantern. The only difference in the mainboard was a Dromoka's Command over the Birds of Paradise you played.
Brian Kiblar has used it before for the same reason I am. When its ackward to play grim, but you're playing bigger dudes, tracker works better. Bigger dudes=more mana/ mana dorks= Fight can matter more.
Its cocoable as well, basically I was subbing out grim for him.
Could it be brought in against Splinter Twin? Been having issues against Grixis Twin, thought this could come in to fight off their few dudes as they are played.
Quick Recap:
Merfolk: 2-1 (1-0)
Grixis: 2-1 (2-0)
Bogles 1-2 (2-1)
Through the Breach 2-1 (3-1)
Grixis 2-0 (4-1)
Scapeshift ID (4-1-1)
Top 8
Gruul Zoo 2-0
Top 4
Junk 2-0
Finals
Bogles 2-1
Q'd for a MODERN RPTQ (Unfortunately on Halloween, 3 and a half hours away) But definitely going to unleash the Nacatls!
For most matchups, I find myself siding out Qasali Pridemage as the weakest creature. But between Spreading Seas in Merfolk, Batterskull post-board in midrange and control decks, Spellskite's all around power, and Grafdigger's Cage popping up in Singapore sideboards, I may need to reevaluate Qasali Pridemage's post-board worth.
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
Congrats! Shoot us the list! I got a modern festival touri in 4 hours, Id love to hear you're thoughts before than (I'll be youtubing it.)
I keep him in.
For reference:
http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=17357&iddeck=130484
http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=17352&iddeck=130438
http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=17302&iddeck=130054
http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=17302&iddeck=130069
http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=17302&iddeck=130074
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
In my list I still bring in thalia and command, so I am siding at least 3 cards. But the truth is its a good matchup, because of pridemage for the combo, path for the combo, constant pressure, and if they default to tempo, we will most likely win.
Oh snap! I had totally forgotten that Twin plays few enough creatures for siding in Thalia. Do you bring in Thalia against Temur Twin? They tend to play more creatures, reducing the value of Thalia.
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
Also... Been a while since I looked at mtggoldfish! Congrats everyone, Zoo is 3% of the meta game! thats huge! Thats biggest since nacatl was unbanned! And its a continuous stable stat too.
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Playing:
Death's Shadow Jund
Played:
Kiki Chord, Zoo variants, Goblins, Burn
Its cocoable as well, basically I was subbing out grim for him.
Please report back on Tracker. It seems good, but I'm concerned that it will be too slow.
Legacy: Strawberry Shortcake, Aggro Loam, DnT+b
Modern: Devoted Karn
Vintage: Survival
Current Decks
Standard : WB Orzhov Vampires BW GUB Sultai Constrictor BUG
Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
I'm wondering why you'd want tracker over additional copies of Dromokas command. I feel like tracker has less utility in the SB slot (command helps zoos bad match ups a ton) and even though tracker is a repeatable ability it seems to have a lower potential tempo swing because it needs to lose summoning sickness. Command also becomes a better top deck later for goyf to overcome Tasigur/goyfs/anglers/Rhino as well as buffing a potential dork vs dork early like T2.
While it can be hit off company I don't think that is enough of a contributing factor to make it better than command either.
I hope you don't take any of this as rude. I appreciate your hard work in this thread and know everything I know about zoo from your videos so I am sure I am missing something. I just wanted to explain my opinion on it so you could explain your choice. I'm looking to build my first Zoo deck soon.
Lantern's Utube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBHIgctK81YarYbO5KmzTsw
Slapa's Utube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN2c_HoamMOIMIVN-XbNajQ
Modern : Huh?
EDH : UBGW Thrasios / Tymna Combo UBGW // GRW Mayael Big Stuff GRW // GU Edric Timewalkers GU
Could it be brought in against Splinter Twin? Been having issues against Grixis Twin, thought this could come in to fight off their few dudes as they are played.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj5oWNcwh-W4nzdFHX7spJ722Sp2-fOeZ
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