I'm thinking either Boros Charm or some more cards for the Twin matchup. Another interesting thing I've been considering is siding out all of my Goblin Guides for Kor Firewalkers when I bring in Volcanic Fallout. Obviously Firewalker will live through Fallout, and Goblin Guide is generally bad in the matchups where Fallout is good, unless you're rampaging, but Firewalker can't be rampaged. So what do people think? Maybe Voice of Resurgence?
I'm thinking either Boros Charm or some more cards for the Twin matchup. Another interesting thing I've been considering is siding out all of my Goblin Guides for Kor Firewalkers when I bring in Volcanic Fallout. Obviously Firewalker will live through Fallout, and Goblin Guide is generally bad in the matchups where Fallout is good, unless you're rampaging, but Firewalker can't be rampaged. So what do people think? Maybe Voice of Resurgence?
Stony silence for affinity, or at least destructive revelry so that it's good for twin too. Also, I would consider Atarka's command in your mb With your build. Probably better than helix as helix is kind of bad with the current meta and it's good with the small zoo list like yours.
Hey ya'll. I'm going to stream around 3 pm (1.5 hours from now) a daily with Paul Rietzl's zoo. I need to fix the audio messups that always plauge me, if I cant, I'll just youtube it.
Update. Fixed it. The stream is going to be like, 3 minutes delayed so I dont have to worry about people watching in on me, so I wont be able to get suggestions. I'm very happy to take suggestions after the game between rounds. If you all like, I can flicker my stream so the delay is closer to 10 seconds for that.
Alright! Ive tested and tested with his list and it is the *****. It's pretty much where you wanna be at with (big) zoo, and I aggree with all points he makes. I think Osackpo and Flako and Crazy Cow are basically the ones who get credit for the deck design though.
I went on stream and did horrible. 0-3 basically. 4th game no one showed, 2nd game was a win dude to time out on his end, but I should have lost it against tron. Round 1 I could have won but made a key mistake against Soulsisters, and wasnt able to burn him out (read: I the player lost, the deck should have won) and the Burn matches were close the whole time, but I narrowally lost twice.
Heres what I will run next stream:
Changes: -1 ooze, -1 Choke, +1 Voice, +1 Command. Not really a ton to change.
Reason is simple. Choke comes in on all the same matches that command does, cept grixis control, but its better vs delver and burn while being lower on the curve. The 3 drop sideing slow was crowded. Two oozes with out one dying was weird hands. I also think ooze shows up enough at 2. Id rather have voice. fills a simliar role but works nicer.
I might watch the twitch VOD later tonight and see how it goes.
Played a PreTQ today instead of GP Providence, lost in the quarter finals after being seed #1. I'm convinced we want a Ghost Quarter main instead of the basic mountain or 2nd temple garden, I played it today and it's very useful in almost every matchup. The colorless land hurts sometimes in openers, but I think it's worth it. I also still firmly believe Fiery Justice is better than Bonfire.
Brief Match Report: Match 1: U/G Infect (0-1)
game 1: Had no idea what i was playing as I was able to aggro him down before he could really do anything. Turn 2 geist was also pretty great.
game 2: He had a much better draw and was able to deal 10 infect in one turn.
game 3: Game was quite close with him only being able to deal 1 infect a turn using Inkmoth, had him dead on board but he drew might of krosa to deal the last points of infect.
Match 2: Jeskai Control(1-1)
Match against a friend so i had an idea of what he was playing.
game 1: Was able to aggro him down with cats and geist.
game 2: Got blown out by supreme verdict because i got a little hasty.
game 3: This time played around the verdict and finished him with 2 gofys
Match 3: Storm(2-1)
game 1: Got combo'd out
game 2: Was able to get a Thalia out to slow him down and kill him before he could combo
game 3: Dromoka's commanded his pyro, and forced him to combo out early or die resulting in him whiffing.
Match 4: Scapeshift(3-1)
game 1: Got combo'd out
game 2: Was able to get blood moon out and block his prime time using a 7/7 knight.
game 3: Won using geist and triple hierarch.
Match 6: Merfolk(5-1)
Nothing special in these games, I just had removal that i needed for his lords and vial making it a pretty easy match.
game 1: Won
game 2: Won
Top 8: Naya Burn
Game 1: Was able to out race him with cats and knights
Game 2: This game was more interesting towards the end where i attacked with geist for lethal, he deflecting palm my angel but i was able to dromoka's command it for the win.
Top 4: Jeskai Control
Game 1: Lost
Game 2: Won
Game 3: Won
Finals: Grixis Control
Game 1: Won
Game 2: Lost
Game 3: Won
Pretty sure we played round 3. Fiery justice was a savage beating.
Aha, yeah. Brutal draws. If it makes you happier, my friend killed like 7 mana sources of that Gifts guy in the semifinals. T3 Anger away 3 mana dorks, T4 cryptic bounce a land with Utopia Sprawl on it, t5 fulminator a land, t6 Snapcaster casting Anger killing 2 Caryatids leaving the poor guy with 1 Forest in play on t6.
Pretty sure we played round 3. Fiery justice was a savage beating.
I'll sub out that instead of bonfire and see how it goes. You might be right.
Does the same sweeping effect vs Elves, Podless Pod, Affinity, etc. but you can also bring it as another way to kill Goyf/Tasigur. And you don't have to miracle.
4 Goblin Guide
4 Kird Ape
4 Loam Lion
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Ghor-Clan Rampager
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile
4 Lightning Helix
1 Dromoka's Command
4 Arid Mesa
3 Windswept Heath
2 Stomping Ground
2 Sacred Foundry
1 Temple Garden
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Forest
4 Kor Firewalker
3 Molten Rain
3 Volcanic Fallout
2 Destructive Revelry
I'm thinking either Boros Charm or some more cards for the Twin matchup. Another interesting thing I've been considering is siding out all of my Goblin Guides for Kor Firewalkers when I bring in Volcanic Fallout. Obviously Firewalker will live through Fallout, and Goblin Guide is generally bad in the matchups where Fallout is good, unless you're rampaging, but Firewalker can't be rampaged. So what do people think? Maybe Voice of Resurgence?
Stony silence for affinity, or at least destructive revelry so that it's good for twin too. Also, I would consider Atarka's command in your mb With your build. Probably better than helix as helix is kind of bad with the current meta and it's good with the small zoo list like yours.
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There we go, I see ya now!
Alright! Ive tested and tested with his list and it is the *****. It's pretty much where you wanna be at with (big) zoo, and I aggree with all points he makes. I think Osackpo and Flako and Crazy Cow are basically the ones who get credit for the deck design though.
I went on stream and did horrible. 0-3 basically. 4th game no one showed, 2nd game was a win dude to time out on his end, but I should have lost it against tron. Round 1 I could have won but made a key mistake against Soulsisters, and wasnt able to burn him out (read: I the player lost, the deck should have won) and the Burn matches were close the whole time, but I narrowally lost twice.
Heres what I will run next stream:
Changes: -1 ooze, -1 Choke, +1 Voice, +1 Command. Not really a ton to change.
Reason is simple. Choke comes in on all the same matches that command does, cept grixis control, but its better vs delver and burn while being lower on the curve. The 3 drop sideing slow was crowded. Two oozes with out one dying was weird hands. I also think ooze shows up enough at 2. Id rather have voice. fills a simliar role but works nicer.
Played a PreTQ today instead of GP Providence, lost in the quarter finals after being seed #1. I'm convinced we want a Ghost Quarter main instead of the basic mountain or 2nd temple garden, I played it today and it's very useful in almost every matchup. The colorless land hurts sometimes in openers, but I think it's worth it. I also still firmly believe Fiery Justice is better than Bonfire.
4 Arid Mesa
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Sacred Foundry
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
1 Breeding Pool
1 Steam Vents
2 Forest
1 Plains
1 Kessig Wolf Run
Creatures (26)
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3 Geist of Saint Traft
2 Loxodon Smiter
4 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Mirran Crusader
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile
3 Collected Company
1 Dromoka's Command
1 Mirran Crusader
2 Stony Silence
2 Blood Moon
2 Kor Firewalker
1 Anger the Gods
1 Bonfire of the Damned
2 Hushwing Gryff
2 Negate
2 kataki war's wage
Brief Match Report:
Match 1: U/G Infect (0-1)
game 1: Had no idea what i was playing as I was able to aggro him down before he could really do anything. Turn 2 geist was also pretty great.
game 2: He had a much better draw and was able to deal 10 infect in one turn.
game 3: Game was quite close with him only being able to deal 1 infect a turn using Inkmoth, had him dead on board but he drew might of krosa to deal the last points of infect.
Match 2: Jeskai Control(1-1)
Match against a friend so i had an idea of what he was playing.
game 1: Was able to aggro him down with cats and geist.
game 2: Got blown out by supreme verdict because i got a little hasty.
game 3: This time played around the verdict and finished him with 2 gofys
Match 3: Storm(2-1)
game 1: Got combo'd out
game 2: Was able to get a Thalia out to slow him down and kill him before he could combo
game 3: Dromoka's commanded his pyro, and forced him to combo out early or die resulting in him whiffing.
Match 4: Scapeshift(3-1)
game 1: Got combo'd out
game 2: Was able to get blood moon out and block his prime time using a 7/7 knight.
game 3: Won using geist and triple hierarch.
Match 5: Home-brew burn(4-1)
Guy was playing a weird deck using shrapnel blast, goblin grenade, goblin token generators, goblin chieftain, signal pest, and goblin bushwhacker.
game 1: Lost
game 2: Won
game 3: Won
Match 6: Merfolk(5-1)
Nothing special in these games, I just had removal that i needed for his lords and vial making it a pretty easy match.
game 1: Won
game 2: Won
Top 8: Naya Burn
Game 1: Was able to out race him with cats and knights
Game 2: This game was more interesting towards the end where i attacked with geist for lethal, he deflecting palm my angel but i was able to dromoka's command it for the win.
Top 4: Jeskai Control
Game 1: Lost
Game 2: Won
Game 3: Won
Finals: Grixis Control
Game 1: Won
Game 2: Lost
Game 3: Won
Will try to add some more detail tomorrow.
Aha, yeah. Brutal draws. If it makes you happier, my friend killed like 7 mana sources of that Gifts guy in the semifinals. T3 Anger away 3 mana dorks, T4 cryptic bounce a land with Utopia Sprawl on it, t5 fulminator a land, t6 Snapcaster casting Anger killing 2 Caryatids leaving the poor guy with 1 Forest in play on t6.
19 Land
4 Arid Mesa
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
3 Stomping Ground
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Temple Garden
1 Forest
1 Mountain
31 Creatures
4 Experiment One
4 Goblin Guide
4 Kird Ape
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Vexing Devil
4 Ghor-Clan Rampager
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
2 Scavenging Ooze
1 Goblin Bushwhacker
10 Spells
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Atarka's Command
2 Boros Charm
15 Sideboard
3 Destructive Revelry
2 Rending Volley
2 Dragon's Claws
2 Rest in Peace
2 Path to Exile
2 Molten Rain
2 Pyroclasm
R1: Grixis Control (2-1)
R2: Grixis Control (2-1)
R3: Grixis Twin (2-1)
R4: UR Twin (2-0)
R5: ID
R6: ID
QF: Grixis Twin (1-2)
Lost a close game 3 that came down to him having Dispel for Boros Charm in response to his Anger of the Gods. Also, I lost the die roll every round.
Standard
UGRB Emerge
Modern
U Tron
Legacy
UWBRG The E.P.I.C. Storm
I'll sub out that instead of bonfire and see how it goes. You might be right.
Does the same sweeping effect vs Elves, Podless Pod, Affinity, etc. but you can also bring it as another way to kill Goyf/Tasigur. And you don't have to miracle.
RDW
Zoo
CoCo Elves