Yeah, i already got the khans fetches, it's just that most lists i saw use them plus 1 or 2 misty to a total of 9 or 10 fetches.
About mutagenic growth, i think it goes not only from when you need BI fuel, but also to complete the 10 damage on one swing, when you don't have the hierarch to trigger exalted, or in my case with the mono green, when i don't have the cathedral of war for exalted.
Hello fellow infectors! I am in need of some advise in a matchup that I keep running into regularly and can't seem to beat. That matchup would be Scapeshift (including Bring to Light versions etc)
Across a number of different events, PPTQs, WMCQs and GPTs, I am currently 0-5 in matches to this deck. It's getting so grim that I am tempted to start running 1-2 Shadow of Doubt in the sideboard just to make things a little easier. Below is my current setup, which took me to the finals of a PPTQ where I lost to the Bring to Light version of the Scapeshift deck:
Across the matches I have lost against this deck it always seems they have drawn the right half of their deck at the correct time. Be it a Lightning Bolt, Mana Leak or Sudden Shock they always seems to just have the answer for the lines I take to just stall me till they get to 8 lands then Scapeshift with Cryptic Command backup.
Even that just feels totally wrong to me. Any advice on this matchup would be greatly appreciated cause I can almost guarantee that I will hit this matchup once per tournament and I am sick of losing to it!
Why take out Gitaxian and an Elf? They run very few creatures so your quickest way to win is with the elf, and the probe is great to see if the coast is clear especially if your opponent runs sudden shock. I'd take out a few mutagenic since they are low impact and dismember/twisted image if you know your opponent does not have spellskite, and bring in the counters/spellskite.
This shouldn't be that hard of a matchup to be honest, except if it's a version completely geared to fight creature based decks with tons of removal and electrolyze, you should be favored.
What are people's thoughts about playing the deck this weekend at GP Indy? How hateful is the format right now given the SCG Syracuse and Invitational and Open results?
Debating between Infect and Burn and main worry is if Jund, Jeskai and Burn are 3 of the top % of decks, that's a lot of direct removal (damage based or Otherwise) and we have a limited number of guys.
Hello, I have recently acquired most of U/G infect. Unfortunately I am only able to acquire 8 fetches and 2 noble Hierarchs due to budget issues but I have most everything else. My question is what is a good suggestion to replace the nobles for the time being? This is what I am currently thinking but I'm no where close to sure about it since I really haven't played the deck a ton.
What are people's thoughts about playing the deck this weekend at GP Indy? How hateful is the format right now given the SCG Syracuse and Invitational and Open results?
Debating between Infect and Burn and main worry is if Jund, Jeskai and Burn are 3 of the top % of decks, that's a lot of direct removal (damage based or Otherwise) and we have a limited number of guys.
Thoughts?
I'm totally rocking Infect this weekend. The story last weekend was all about how Affinity got a bump due to people over-hating on Dredge. More hate for Affinity means better games for us. But yea, I played in a PPTQ last weekend and only lost to Jeskai (twice). It was brutal. Jund and grindy decks are really good right now. Whatever, I'm rolling the dice.
Can you show me what you bring in/out when sideboarding with the following decks? taking the list posted above from dudemcrapping. just need some intel for my future experiences
-dredge
-melira company
-merfolk
-hatebears
-jund
thank you in advance!
Against dredge I'm testing out Tormods Crypts. They cost zero so they don't mess with any of our sequencing. Also... Fog. Sometimes all you need is one extra turn. I think it's the perfect Infect tempo card.
Melira is pretty brutal. Pray you draw Dismember.
Merfolk is really effected by the die-roll. Also their Spreading Seas matches up really nice against Inkmoths. I would consider Nature's Claim to take out Seas and Vials. Dismember is good, too.
Hatebears is another tough one. I haven't tested it much so I'm not sure about advice.
Jund... some people really like Wild Defiance, but I'm not sold. Dryad Arbor is about I have. It is a really dismal matchup.
Been lurking awhile and thought I'd mention simic charm has been working out great for defense against removal for me,its a +3/+3buff and gives everything hexproof if I need it and can bring back glistner.Has saved my bacon a few times.Good multipurpose imo.
I'm also using remand,its drawn me a pump and bought me a turn or two.Also using serum visions and sleight of hand with no probes.
I'm running the UG build with glistner and agent currently.
SB I like pithing needle currently as its quite effective in some MU ,relic is also a one of,havent tried skite or chalice yet(someone suggested to me setting it on 3).
Has anyone tried unnatural predation? the +1 isn't huge, but it could be a good trick for getting through smaller chump blockers that people often leave back while stabilizing? I was thinking of trying it as a 1-of.
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No real argument for it. I was just brainstorming and wanted ways to get trample. Specifically for when an opponent taps out but leaves a token to chump my elf thinking they are safe. But in that scenario, a sorcery speed rancor, or distortion strike would do the job better. Thanks.
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Distortion Strike also lets you set up kills for the following turn which can be very relevant when you're a mana short to pump and keep protection up.
For the people worried about dredge being overrepresented, I believe a grafdigger's and an additional distortion strike in the SB suffices to cover the matchup. There are alot of lingering souls/fliers running around as of lately so I like having access to the second distortion strike anyways.
cage is good, and works vs the chord decks too. In my Jeskai list, I've been running surgical extraction, and it's been fantastic. Could work here too. Typically you just hit the narcomoeba, or bloodghast in response to the trigger, severely slows them down.
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Bant Eldrazi has been popping up a lot in my meta lately (faced it twice last week). I'm going to a PPTQ tomorrow. Are there are any tips or strategies to help this matchup? I also expect there to be a pretty grindy meta as I know a few people on Jund will also be there. Any tips on maximizing game 1 and SB against these match ups? I am running a list very similar to Owen's list.
I just built out GU infect but I'm pondering GB in this meta largely for Crusader and Decay. Haven't made any decisions yet, but I know Chalice is a little more common than I'd like, as is Jeskai. The fact that Crusader dodges Bolt, Path, Helix, Kommand, Terminate, Electrolyze, Izzet Charm, Pyroclasm, Nahiri, and Galvanic Blast gives me warm fuzzies, even if it is a slower approach.
Hi guys. I haven't posted in a while. I won last weekend's PPTQ-Dublin in our area out of 46 players. I can fly to Taipei or Japan in December for the RPTQ if i get my VISA ready on time. The following were my match-ups:
I also noticed from this weekend's GP Guanzhou 6 players made Top32 with Infect. 5/6 of them played Andrew Jessup's stocklist. What is it about that list that makes it successful? :/ I cannot get behind it; my list is a tweaked one from Tom Ross's Pro Tour back in 2015 when the deck first got popular.
P.S. 2 Wild Defiance maindeck is such a house; blanked my opponents in Round 2 and Finals, and won with raw damage in three games that day.
Hi guys. I haven't posted in a while. I won last weekend's PPTQ-Dublin in our area out of 46 players. I can fly to Taipei or Japan in December for the RPTQ if i get my VISA ready on time. The following were my match-ups:
I also noticed from this weekend's GP Guanzhou 6 players made Top32 with Infect. 5/6 of them played Andrew Jessup's stocklist. What is it about that list that makes it successful? :/ I cannot get behind it; my list is a tweaked one from Tom Ross's Pro Tour back in 2015 when the deck first got popular.
P.S. 2 Wild Defiance maindeck is such a house; blanked my opponents in Round 2 and Finals, and won with raw damage in three games that day.
Could you share your decklist please? I'm interested to see what changes you made to Tom's list since I'm running something similar as well!
Hi guys. I haven't posted in a while. I won last weekend's PPTQ-Dublin in our area out of 46 players. I can fly to Taipei or Japan in December for the RPTQ if i get my VISA ready on time. The following were my match-ups:
I also noticed from this weekend's GP Guanzhou 6 players made Top32 with Infect. 5/6 of them played Andrew Jessup's stocklist. What is it about that list that makes it successful? :/ I cannot get behind it; my list is a tweaked one from Tom Ross's Pro Tour back in 2015 when the deck first got popular.
P.S. 2 Wild Defiance maindeck is such a house; blanked my opponents in Round 2 and Finals, and won with raw damage in three games that day.
I play a list very similar to the Andrew Jessup list that I have seen. I don't think it is the list in particular that made the 5 players successful. I think maybe the meta was good for the deck on that day. I have been having trouble piloting the Andrew Jessup list to any meaningful record on MTGO league events.
I wouldn't bring in finks vs jund, and I would definitely not cut 6 pump spells. The main list is good, very similar to mine right now, but I'm going with 9 fetches and a main dryad arbor because lots of jund (which is the other deck I'm playing the most right now) I think I like 2 spell pierce in main instead of 2 twisted image, but without the corrupter it's a little light against mainboard skites and artifacts from your opponents. The 2 pierce vs 2 image is a very close call usually. Last week there were 3 Jund decks including my own, so if those same people show up this week I may go back to the poison for quick easy wins
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About mutagenic growth, i think it goes not only from when you need BI fuel, but also to complete the 10 damage on one swing, when you don't have the hierarch to trigger exalted, or in my case with the mono green, when i don't have the cathedral of war for exalted.
Across a number of different events, PPTQs, WMCQs and GPTs, I am currently 0-5 in matches to this deck. It's getting so grim that I am tempted to start running 1-2 Shadow of Doubt in the sideboard just to make things a little easier. Below is my current setup, which took me to the finals of a PPTQ where I lost to the Bring to Light version of the Scapeshift deck:
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Blighted Agent
4x Glistener Elf
1x Viridian Corrupter
Spells
4x Might of Old Krosa
4x Mutagenic Growth
2x Apostle's Blessing
3x Become Immense
1x Dismember
1x Distortion Strike
4x Gitaxian Probe
1x Spell Pierce
2x Twisted Image
4x Vines of Vastwood
1x Wild Defiance
2x Breeding Pool
3x Forest
4x Inkmoth Nexus
2x Pendelhaven
4x Windswept Heath
4x Wooded Foothills
1x Verdant Catacombs
2x Dismember
1x Dispel
1x Dryad Arbor
1x Grafdigger's Cage
3x Kitchen Finks
3x Nature's Claim
2x Spell Pierce
1x Spellskite
1x Twisted Image
Across the matches I have lost against this deck it always seems they have drawn the right half of their deck at the correct time. Be it a Lightning Bolt, Mana Leak or Sudden Shock they always seems to just have the answer for the lines I take to just stall me till they get to 8 lands then Scapeshift with Cryptic Command backup.
My current sideboard plan is as follows:
+ 2 Spell Pierce
+ 1 Dispel
- 1 Mutagenic Growth
- 1 Glistener Elf
- 1 Gitaxian Probe
Even that just feels totally wrong to me. Any advice on this matchup would be greatly appreciated cause I can almost guarantee that I will hit this matchup once per tournament and I am sick of losing to it!
This shouldn't be that hard of a matchup to be honest, except if it's a version completely geared to fight creature based decks with tons of removal and electrolyze, you should be favored.
Debating between Infect and Burn and main worry is if Jund, Jeskai and Burn are 3 of the top % of decks, that's a lot of direct removal (damage based or Otherwise) and we have a limited number of guys.
Thoughts?
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2x Apostle's Blessing
4x Become Immense
1x Dismember
1x Groundswell
4x Might of Old Krosa
4x Mutagenic Growth
1x Spell Pierce
2x Twisted Image
4x Vines of Vastwood
Sorcery (5)
1x Distortion Strike
4x Gitaxian Probe
Land (20)
3x Breeding Pool
3x Forest
4x Inkmoth Nexus
2x Pendelhaven
4x Windswept Heath
4x Wooded Foothills
Creature (12)
4x Blighted Agent
4x Glistener Elf
2x Noble Hierarch
1x Spellskite
1x Viridian Corrupter
Sideboard
2x Dismember
1x Dispel
1x Dryad Arbor
2x Grafdigger's Cage
2x Kitchen Finks
3x Nature's Claim
2x Spell Pierce
1x Twisted Image
1x Viridian Corrupter
I'm totally rocking Infect this weekend. The story last weekend was all about how Affinity got a bump due to people over-hating on Dredge. More hate for Affinity means better games for us. But yea, I played in a PPTQ last weekend and only lost to Jeskai (twice). It was brutal. Jund and grindy decks are really good right now. Whatever, I'm rolling the dice.
Against dredge I'm testing out Tormods Crypts. They cost zero so they don't mess with any of our sequencing. Also... Fog. Sometimes all you need is one extra turn. I think it's the perfect Infect tempo card.
Melira is pretty brutal. Pray you draw Dismember.
Merfolk is really effected by the die-roll. Also their Spreading Seas matches up really nice against Inkmoths. I would consider Nature's Claim to take out Seas and Vials. Dismember is good, too.
Hatebears is another tough one. I haven't tested it much so I'm not sure about advice.
Jund... some people really like Wild Defiance, but I'm not sold. Dryad Arbor is about I have. It is a really dismal matchup.
I'm also using remand,its drawn me a pump and bought me a turn or two.Also using serum visions and sleight of hand with no probes.
I'm running the UG build with glistner and agent currently.
SB I like pithing needle currently as its quite effective in some MU ,relic is also a one of,havent tried skite or chalice yet(someone suggested to me setting it on 3).
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For the people worried about dredge being overrepresented, I believe a grafdigger's and an additional distortion strike in the SB suffices to cover the matchup. There are alot of lingering souls/fliers running around as of lately so I like having access to the second distortion strike anyways.
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Round 1: Bant Eldrazi 2-1
Round 2: Junk 2-1
Round 3: Jeskai Nahiri 2-0
Round 4: Bant Eldrazi 2-0
Round 5: Intentional Draw
Round 6: Intentional Draw:
Quarterfinals: Abzan Collected Company 2-1
Semifinals: Ad Nauseam Combo 2-0
Finals: Naya Burn 2-1
I also noticed from this weekend's GP Guanzhou 6 players made Top32 with Infect. 5/6 of them played Andrew Jessup's stocklist. What is it about that list that makes it successful? :/ I cannot get behind it; my list is a tweaked one from Tom Ross's Pro Tour back in 2015 when the deck first got popular.
P.S. 2 Wild Defiance maindeck is such a house; blanked my opponents in Round 2 and Finals, and won with raw damage in three games that day.
Could you share your decklist please? I'm interested to see what changes you made to Tom's list since I'm running something similar as well!
I play a list very similar to the Andrew Jessup list that I have seen. I don't think it is the list in particular that made the 5 players successful. I think maybe the meta was good for the deck on that day. I have been having trouble piloting the Andrew Jessup list to any meaningful record on MTGO league events.
GUInfect UMerfolk RW Burn GRWBU Humans GWUBant Eldrazi GR RG EldraziC Serum Powder EldraziC Eldrazi TronGB GB Rock
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