Hi all! It's been a while since I posted anything here. I played in a tournament today and went 3-2. Far less good then I had hoped. Still I wanted to share some of my thoughts about the matches I played and the new cards I tried. Also I wanted to comment on some of the posts I've read here today.
I have been playing with 1 force of negation in the main and 1 force of despair in the sideboard. I've changed the deck somewhat to try to make these cards better:
- cut murderous cut and liliana's triumph for 2 tyrant's scorn. The scorn is UB which makes it so you can pitch it to force of negation, also in a noncreature matchup like UW control the card can be used to protect your own creatures. I was pretty happy about that change.
- I played 2 ancestral visions since I think that if you play multiple cards that give you card disadvantage like force of negation that you need to mitigate this somehow. Visions was ok but a bit too slow (I cut 1 jace and 1 mana leak for them, I really felt like I missed that Jace, gonna add him again somehow)
I was very happy with the maindeck force of negation, i'll keep that one, but the force of despair is getting cut again for a damnation.
Thoughts on mistbind clique: don't underestimate this card! A 4/4 flyer is pretty darn good against UR phoenix. An flash giant blocker is good against many creature decks. Also it's our best card to beat tron. (especially if you can bounce it back with cards like jace or tyrant's scorn). It's also a way to get rid of our bitterblossom when we're close to dying from it. I think you need at least 10 other faeries to make the card work (spellstutter/bitterblossm/vendilion clique and mutavault)
With bridgevine running wild in modern right now you need a decent amount of graveyard hate if you want to beat this deck. I play 1 nihil spellbomb main (since it can "cycle) and in the side 3 leylines and 1 surgical. Maybe the spellbomb main should become a surgical too. Keep in mind that sometimes killing your own creatures to get rid of their bridges from below might be the right play.
UR Phoenix: when this deck rose to power I thought it was a nightmare. However after playing against it a few times I've realised it's actually a pretty good matchup. They only have 8 threats (phoenixes and thing in the ice), thing in the ice often flips and bounces snapcasters/spellstutter sprites. I sideboard in the surgical but you don't need the leylines. Spellstutter might be the best card in the deck against them. It counters so much of their stuff and it ignores spell pierce and dispel.
In my opinion liliana the last hope is still far superior to liliana of the veil (and ashiok). Hope: crushes creature swarm decks and returns your counterspells and removal to your hand(spellstutters/snapcasters). I want to keep as many cards in my hand as possible, keep my options open. Lilana of the veil does the exact opposite by have to discard and play empty handed.
Hey Roggers666, you should join the discord!
We have discussed FoN and FoD, there's a lot of ongoing discussions about them as more people are able to test. I'll cover some of the stuff I know that has been covered in the discord that you talked about briefly here though.
Tyrant's Scorn is really good, people are definitely upping on their counts of it specifically for pitching to Force and it feeling similar to Fatal Push and being good removal. People originally were all about Liliana's Triumph and then it fell out of favor fast in favor of targetted removal.
As for filling your hand again - play Fact or Fiction. A lot of people are on FoF specifically for this reason. It's a mid/late-game play, but a late-game draw 2-3 is really impactful.
As for the bridgevine issue - Surgical doesn't do enough. You need something like Ravenous Trap or Leyline to really interact with them quick enough. It's tough, but people are hopeful that Leyline might get reprinted in the upcoming core 2020 set.
Phoenix isn't a bad MU, you just gotta be smart with how you play things out. If you take in surgical, it's pretty nice to just eat their Phoenixes sometimes.
If you have further questions I would 100% direct them to the discord, the link to it is in the post just above yours.
hi, thanks for the quick answer
I used to be in the faerie discord but I had the feeling it was dying a bit too, good to hear/see that's no longer the case ;-)
What do you cut for the fact or fiction? (jace of cryptic command I assume)
My current decklist is here: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1958454#paper
I've had a 2-2 finish and a 3-1 finish so far since MH1 came out, but my 2-2 finish was missing Plague engineer and ashiok from the side which would have helped significantly.
As for what I cut for FoF, I never played Jace. I try to keep my 4 costs low though so I have 6 spots split 2/2/2 between cryptic, mistbind, and FoF
First of all, are the maindeck grave hates still necessary?
Second, dont you feel to be curve heavy with so many 4-drops?
I would always post lists including a sideboard.
Yea, I was a little wary of posting without the sideboard, but I was still waiting on cards and stuff, so i wasn't even sure I'd be playing it before the B&R announcement.
I played a few practice games and found the curve to be fairly good, and I didn't have many issues with the mana, though I did play a few games where I ended up flooding out.
This is the current list that I will play this week at Thursday night modern (if I don't audible into Cruel Control)
Blue black white tribal is my gut in where you want to build fae right now the new life gain faeries are strong. stoneforge with light and shadow and batterskull are very strong. The other is maybe red blue x with fires. If you have extra swords you could make a U/G/X fea with the new goose that can turn 2 a sword and can make food every turn lategame.
FULL TIME FAERIES
Selvala
I have been playing with 1 force of negation in the main and 1 force of despair in the sideboard. I've changed the deck somewhat to try to make these cards better:
- cut murderous cut and liliana's triumph for 2 tyrant's scorn. The scorn is UB which makes it so you can pitch it to force of negation, also in a noncreature matchup like UW control the card can be used to protect your own creatures. I was pretty happy about that change.
- I played 2 ancestral visions since I think that if you play multiple cards that give you card disadvantage like force of negation that you need to mitigate this somehow. Visions was ok but a bit too slow (I cut 1 jace and 1 mana leak for them, I really felt like I missed that Jace, gonna add him again somehow)
I was very happy with the maindeck force of negation, i'll keep that one, but the force of despair is getting cut again for a damnation.
Thoughts on mistbind clique: don't underestimate this card! A 4/4 flyer is pretty darn good against UR phoenix. An flash giant blocker is good against many creature decks. Also it's our best card to beat tron. (especially if you can bounce it back with cards like jace or tyrant's scorn). It's also a way to get rid of our bitterblossom when we're close to dying from it. I think you need at least 10 other faeries to make the card work (spellstutter/bitterblossm/vendilion clique and mutavault)
With bridgevine running wild in modern right now you need a decent amount of graveyard hate if you want to beat this deck. I play 1 nihil spellbomb main (since it can "cycle) and in the side 3 leylines and 1 surgical. Maybe the spellbomb main should become a surgical too. Keep in mind that sometimes killing your own creatures to get rid of their bridges from below might be the right play.
UR Phoenix: when this deck rose to power I thought it was a nightmare. However after playing against it a few times I've realised it's actually a pretty good matchup. They only have 8 threats (phoenixes and thing in the ice), thing in the ice often flips and bounces snapcasters/spellstutter sprites. I sideboard in the surgical but you don't need the leylines. Spellstutter might be the best card in the deck against them. It counters so much of their stuff and it ignores spell pierce and dispel.
In my opinion liliana the last hope is still far superior to liliana of the veil (and ashiok). Hope: crushes creature swarm decks and returns your counterspells and removal to your hand(spellstutters/snapcasters). I want to keep as many cards in my hand as possible, keep my options open. Lilana of the veil does the exact opposite by have to discard and play empty handed.
We have discussed FoN and FoD, there's a lot of ongoing discussions about them as more people are able to test. I'll cover some of the stuff I know that has been covered in the discord that you talked about briefly here though.
Tyrant's Scorn is really good, people are definitely upping on their counts of it specifically for pitching to Force and it feeling similar to Fatal Push and being good removal. People originally were all about Liliana's Triumph and then it fell out of favor fast in favor of targetted removal.
As for filling your hand again - play Fact or Fiction. A lot of people are on FoF specifically for this reason. It's a mid/late-game play, but a late-game draw 2-3 is really impactful.
As for the bridgevine issue - Surgical doesn't do enough. You need something like Ravenous Trap or Leyline to really interact with them quick enough. It's tough, but people are hopeful that Leyline might get reprinted in the upcoming core 2020 set.
Phoenix isn't a bad MU, you just gotta be smart with how you play things out. If you take in surgical, it's pretty nice to just eat their Phoenixes sometimes.
If you have further questions I would 100% direct them to the discord, the link to it is in the post just above yours.
FULL TIME FAERIES
Selvala
I used to be in the faerie discord but I had the feeling it was dying a bit too, good to hear/see that's no longer the case ;-)
What do you cut for the fact or fiction? (jace of cryptic command I assume)
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1958454#paper
I've had a 2-2 finish and a 3-1 finish so far since MH1 came out, but my 2-2 finish was missing Plague engineer and ashiok from the side which would have helped significantly.
As for what I cut for FoF, I never played Jace. I try to keep my 4 costs low though so I have 6 spots split 2/2/2 between cryptic, mistbind, and FoF
FULL TIME FAERIES
Selvala
4 Spellstutter Sprite
4 Snapcaster Mage
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Mistbind Clique
2 Fallen Shinobi
Enchantment
4 Bitterblossom
Land
3 Watery Grave
4 Mutavault
2 Creeping Tar Pit
4 Darkslick Shores
3 Island
2 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
2 Swamp
2 Nihil Spellbomb
Instant
2 Remand
4 Cryptic Command
1 Mana Leak
4 Fatal Push
1 Cast Down
Sorcery
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Thoughtseize
Hi, welcome back!
First of all, are the maindeck grave hates still necessary?
Second, dont you feel to be curve heavy with so many 4-drops?
I would always post lists including a sideboard.
My 2 cents!
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UB Faeries [Midrange/Tempo]
RWUGB Affinity[Aggro]
FAERIES TOO STRONK!!!1111
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5678I played a few practice games and found the curve to be fairly good, and I didn't have many issues with the mana, though I did play a few games where I ended up flooding out.
This is the current list that I will play this week at Thursday night modern (if I don't audible into Cruel Control)
4 Spellstutter Sprite
4 Snapcaster Mage
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Mistbind Clique
2 Fallen Shinobi
Enchantment
4 Bitterblossom
Land
3 Watery Grave
4 Mutavault
2 Creeping Tar Pit
4 Darkslick Shores
3 Island
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
2 Swamp
2 Remand
4 Cryptic Command
4 Fatal Push
3 Opt
1 Cast Down
Sorcery
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Countersquall
2 Dispel
2 Force of Negation
2 Collective Brutality
1 Damnation
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Liliana of the Veil
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