the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.
I just had a game against Shadow in which I boarded in Blood Moon and Entrancing Melody, drew both, and had milled my second Island. Blood Moon was good enough to stall the game until my board was lethal, but that was a huge tension. Given that Shadow is basically the poster matchup for Melody, I'm pretty sure Melody is coming out of my sideboard. I would much rather be casting Moon most of the time against them. Maybe one day Melody will look good enough.
I just had a game against Shadow in which I boarded in Blood Moon and Entrancing Melody, drew both, and had milled my second Island. Blood Moon was good enough to stall the game until my board was lethal, but that was a huge tension. Given that Shadow is basically the poster matchup for Melody, I'm pretty sure Melody is coming out of my sideboard. I would much rather be casting Moon most of the time against them. Maybe one day Melody will look good enough.
Fun fact: I tried logging into MTGO this morning to finish up the League before heading to class, and I couldn't log in. Then I realized it was Wednesday, and after much cursing, I accepted that I had to live with Downtime, and wouldn't have a chance to play today. I took to Xmage to jam some games and ran into Humans! I also go destroyed due to making massive misplays, so I guess I got lucky MTGO was down?
@Mikefon It does look like EE is coming in after this League. Melody does not seem as good as I hoped. I was gonna get the first Tarn with that Tix, but alas. The things we do for our percentage points. EE is going to be especially good if Humans does blow up.
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+1 Engineered Explosives
-1 Dispel
+1 Lightning Axe
Added Knucks to Main
After sleeping on it. I feel like my deck is becoming a compilation of silver bullets.. I mentioned I was uneasy about the number of 2 ofs I was playing... I feel like adding baubles and charts just nets us so many more cards to look for what we need..
*just thinking out loud*
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So, it does seem like Grixis Shadow is one of the top tier decks. For those who have played it multiple times, do you feel it is a good match or more like Jund. I've been bringing in EE for it and it seems pretty good, though I've only played it twice.
Grixis is definitely one of the more popular decks in the meta. I'd say the matchup is quite similar to Jund, but it is definitely better than our Jund matchup. Jund has plenty of removal, so it is difficult for us to keep a threat on board. Grixis Shadow runs much less, but still has hand disruption, which is difficult for us.
The matchup is pretty close to even. If they are able to discard away all of our threats, we are in big trouble. If not, try to stick a threat while playing around Delve fatties (we have difficulty removing them, but if you can keep a Goyf on board, they don't matter nearly as much). I like to be fairly aggressive with Delvers because the opponent will need to answer it, which means Goyf is more likely to survive. It's rare that the opponent lets Delver go at their life total to grow Shadow because they want to be in control of their life, and if we get to a spot in which we have some counters up, Delver can close the game despite them having massive creatures.
Postboard, I like Blood Moon and Huntmaster a lot. Maximize your threat density and they will have trouble having enough discard and removal. I've also been trying out Reveler in this matchup since I have it anyways. I'm not sure I like it here, but Grixis is more grindy than DSJ, so I like it in theory. EE is worth running, but I hate that it can't hit Delve threats. I guess it hits Lili, so that's something. I do think we should bring it in.
Good analysis. I do like these types of matchups as they are very interactive while as you say not being as tough as Jund. I personally havent had too much trouble with delve guys as I play 3 Simic Charms, usually bouncing them. One thing I do like in the appearance on Grixis over Jund is Abrupt Decay. That card is so frustrating to play against, so I will gladly face Fatal Push over it. As far as Bedlam Reveler, I haven't actually played it or seen you play it in your vids. It seems super strong in theory, but does that move over into real life?
Also, Reveler has prowess, which I've never noticed. Does that mean if I use Stubborn Denial to counter something, Reveler will be a 4/5 by the time ferocious is checked?
Good analysis. I do like these types of matchups as they are very interactive while as you say not being as tough as Jund. I personally havent had too much trouble with delve guys as I play 3 Simic Charms, usually bouncing them. One thing I do like in the appearance on Grixis over Jund is Abrupt Decay. That card is so frustrating to play against, so I will gladly face Fatal Push over it. As far as Bedlam Reveler, I haven't actually played it or seen you play it in your vids. It seems super strong in theory, but does that move over into real life?
Also, Reveler has prowess, which I've never noticed. Does that mean if I use Stubborn Denial to counter something, Reveler will be a 4/5 by the time ferocious is checked?
Reveler is generally quite difficult to cast since everybody bring grave hate against us.
As for your question about ferocious: Yes, it counts as a 4/5 since prowess resolves first.
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Hey guys been testing Temur delver and really enjoying it. I'm having an issue with the creature base specifically that 4 of occupied by hooting mandrills usually. Has anyone tried other options for anything that would trigger stubborn denial? Specifically enigma drake and cryptic serpent come to mind. Hoots has been bothering me because it poisons our goyfs.
Hey guys been testing Temur delver and really enjoying it. I'm having an issue with the creature base specifically that 4 of occupied by hooting mandrills usually. Has anyone tried other options for anything that would trigger stubborn denial? Specifically enigma drake and cryptic serpent come to mind. Hoots has been bothering me because it poisons our goyfs.
If you delve cautiously there aren't any problems. It's strange at the beginning. Remember that goyf uses also opponents' graveyard. This deck makes you think a lot since the first move.
Enigma drake and cryptic serpent cost too much mana and aren't very reliable. Another option could be Savage knuckleblade (I personally play 3 mandrills and two knucks).
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Hey guys been testing Temur delver and really enjoying it. I'm having an issue with the creature base specifically that 4 of occupied by hooting mandrills usually. Has anyone tried other options for anything that would trigger stubborn denial? Specifically enigma drake and cryptic serpent come to mind. Hoots has been bothering me because it poisons our goyfs.
Honestly if you are smart about delving, it doesnt do too much damage to our graveyard. I've seen players with four lands untapped, use only one land and the rest delve to cast their fatty. I guess it feels good to pay 1 for a threat, but using your lands to cast it really makes the delve an easy price and will help keep goyf big.
So its really just that hoots is the most reliable fatty we can play on the cheap, and is the best option assuming we are playing stubborn denial?
Mandrills is un-pushable and un-boltable. It's immune to inquisition. It's a 4/4 that can cost 1 and it's evasive (great against tokens). Yes it's definitely the best we can play.
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Watch the youtbe matches of "Mnes Mtg" and see how often his goyf is a 4/5,5/6, or bigger. Pretty much all the time. The only real nonbo we have is with delirium with Traverse the Ulvenwald
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Colorless Eldrazi Stompy
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Might move 1 axe to the side and put knucks in.
Cut dispel??
And staticaster may become flash freeze.
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
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Thanks for posting!
Hoping to see you play against this humans deck that's blowing up in the near future.
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
Hope Engineered Explosives is the card chosen to come in.
Modern:
@Mikefon It does look like EE is coming in after this League. Melody does not seem as good as I hoped. I was gonna get the first Tarn with that Tix, but alas. The things we do for our percentage points. EE is going to be especially good if Humans does blow up.
Interested in RUG (Temur) Delver in Modern? Find gameplay with live commentary at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8UcKe8jVh1e2N4CHbd3fhg
-1 Izzet Staticaster
+1 Engineered Explosives
-1 Dispel
+1 Lightning Axe
Added Knucks to Main
After sleeping on it. I feel like my deck is becoming a compilation of silver bullets.. I mentioned I was uneasy about the number of 2 ofs I was playing... I feel like adding baubles and charts just nets us so many more cards to look for what we need..
*just thinking out loud*
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
The matchup is pretty close to even. If they are able to discard away all of our threats, we are in big trouble. If not, try to stick a threat while playing around Delve fatties (we have difficulty removing them, but if you can keep a Goyf on board, they don't matter nearly as much). I like to be fairly aggressive with Delvers because the opponent will need to answer it, which means Goyf is more likely to survive. It's rare that the opponent lets Delver go at their life total to grow Shadow because they want to be in control of their life, and if we get to a spot in which we have some counters up, Delver can close the game despite them having massive creatures.
Postboard, I like Blood Moon and Huntmaster a lot. Maximize your threat density and they will have trouble having enough discard and removal. I've also been trying out Reveler in this matchup since I have it anyways. I'm not sure I like it here, but Grixis is more grindy than DSJ, so I like it in theory. EE is worth running, but I hate that it can't hit Delve threats. I guess it hits Lili, so that's something. I do think we should bring it in.
Interested in RUG (Temur) Delver in Modern? Find gameplay with live commentary at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8UcKe8jVh1e2N4CHbd3fhg
Also, Reveler has prowess, which I've never noticed. Does that mean if I use Stubborn Denial to counter something, Reveler will be a 4/5 by the time ferocious is checked?
Reveler is generally quite difficult to cast since everybody bring grave hate against us.
As for your question about ferocious: Yes, it counts as a 4/5 since prowess resolves first.
Modern:
If you delve cautiously there aren't any problems. It's strange at the beginning. Remember that goyf uses also opponents' graveyard. This deck makes you think a lot since the first move.
Enigma drake and cryptic serpent cost too much mana and aren't very reliable. Another option could be Savage knuckleblade (I personally play 3 mandrills and two knucks).
Modern:
Honestly if you are smart about delving, it doesnt do too much damage to our graveyard. I've seen players with four lands untapped, use only one land and the rest delve to cast their fatty. I guess it feels good to pay 1 for a threat, but using your lands to cast it really makes the delve an easy price and will help keep goyf big.
Mandrills is un-pushable and un-boltable. It's immune to inquisition. It's a 4/4 that can cost 1 and it's evasive (great against tokens). Yes it's definitely the best we can play.
Modern:
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff